Hollywood Fearing Worst Box Office Summer in a Decade

Jim Kim said:
Movie Theatre:

People coughing, people sniffling, people talking, people smelling, people texting, people crunching popcorn, people crinkling food wrappers, people slurping drinks, people's germs, shared restrooms, people's leftover trash, people's heads obstructing the view of the movie screen, people getting up and walking around.

Food and drink is expensive.

Can't pause. Can't rewind. Can't stop and play at a later time. Can't rewatch without paying again. Can't enable subtitles. Can't adjust the volume. Can't adjust the screen. Can't change seating point of view, or screen angle. Can't cuddle with a loved one.

Home Theatre:

None of the above problems.

above quote/edited from bluesnews forums, thanks BobBob
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Stay home, you might experience life everyday out side your walls. hahaha!
 
Jim Kim said:
Movie Theatre:

People coughing, people sniffling, people talking, people smelling, people texting, people crunching popcorn, people crinkling food wrappers, people slurping drinks, people's germs, shared restrooms, people's leftover trash, people's heads obstructing the view of the movie screen, people getting up and walking around.

Food and drink is expensive.

Can't pause. Can't rewind. Can't stop and play at a later time. Can't rewatch without paying again. Can't enable subtitles. Can't adjust the volume. Can't adjust the screen. Can't change seating point of view, or screen angle. Can't cuddle with a loved one.

Home Theatre:

None of the above problems.

above quote/edited from bluesnews forums, thanks BobBob
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At home:

Have to listen to your wife ask questions and yell at the TV constantly

Have to pause every 10 minutes because your kids need to pee

Have to stop watching because someone nocked on your door

Have to listen to your neighbors yelling at each other

Listen to your neighbors car alarm going off because a cat jumped his hood

Theater:

You only have to take your kids to pee

btw I hate pausing a movie, if I have to pause a movie I'll just come back to re-watch the movie later.
 
Well, if you're going to the movies on a Friday night at 7 yeah, you're going to experience a bunch of goddamn idiots. Do you need to see a movie right when it comes out? Do you need to go to a movie when you know everyone else will be there? Check out the seating availability ahead of time and find out what time will be better for you. It's not that hard to find an off-time showing with a much better experience all around by avoiding people. Whether or not that works for your schedule is the only question, really.
 
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Trimlock said:
At home:

Have to listen to your wife ask questions and yell at the TV constantly

Have to pause every 10 minutes because your kids need to pee

Have to stop watching because someone nocked on your door

Have to listen to your neighbors yelling at each other

Listen to your neighbors car alarm going off because a cat jumped his hood

Theater:

You only have to take your kids to pee

btw I hate pausing a movie, if I have to pause a movie I'll just come back to re-watch the movie later.
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Knock the wife over the head so shes out for the remainder of the movie

tell your kids if they have to pee youll miss the movie

dont answer the door

get a shotgun

see above ^

:p
 
grtitan said:
I dont mind sequels and franchises,if they are good.

What i hate is the insane prices plus the horrible experience of going out to the movies.

I would love a legal way of watching the new releases at home, with the option to pause and rewind, if possible.

Meanwhile, i wait for a BR or Netflix release.
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They tried this with cable and satellite boxes and fifteen dollar one time viewings. The problem is most people don't want to pay $150 a month for shitty TV and then $15 to watch a movie once when it will be out on the redbox in a few weeks for two dollars.
 
Commander Shepard said:
Hollywood is suffering for the same reasons as live sporting events. The in-home experience has gotten far better and less expensive than going to movie theaters and sports arenas. Why contend with traffic, weather, crowds, obscenely over-priced tickets, concessions, etc., when you can watch a 65" 4K screen and eat/drink whatever you want in the comfort of your own home?
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You didn't even mention having a 7.1 surround sound system putting out 1000 watts of house shaking sound.
 
sleepeeg3 said:
Partially true. They're mainly suffering, because they stopped bothering with decent scripts or actors and just tried to pull people in the theater with expensive special effects. It's an arms race of special effects that will end up with movies always going straight to video.

...and I'm tired of seeing the same actors in every movie! (JLaw, Chris Pratt or Ryan Gosling, etc.) Some of them can't act for crap (Gosling). I'm pretty convinced Jennifer Lawrence has no soul.
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Try this next time you see Jennifer Lawrence "acting" on TV. Cover the bottom half of her face and only watch her eyes. They do not move, the muscles around her eyes do not move. Which is a tell of sociopathy/psychopathy. She doesn't have a soul.
 
Snowdensjacket said:
Try this next time you see Jennifer Lawrence "acting" on TV. Cover the bottom half of her face and only watch her eyes. They do not move, the muscles around her eyes do not move. Which is a tell of sociopathy/psychopathy. She doesn't have a soul.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed! I tell my wife all the time she is a terrible actress because she has no expression. Why they keep casting her I'll never know.
 
Oh no, poor poor hollywood, wait I'll shed a tear for them...

Making 10% less, isn't exactly loosing anything is it?

Meanwhile I haven't seen a single movie come out of hollywood that would have been truly good in years, but let me guess, they'll blame piracy right?
 
I usually watch movies at home with my wife, we "tried" watching about 25 movies last year. didn't finish most of them or one of us fell asleep
but I think we both liked The Great Wall, Passengers , The Legend of Tarzan
I liked Doctor Strange, Captain America Civil War
some where ok but I literally don't remember anything about them like Dont Breathe, and Moana oh and Arrival had nice visuals

but yeah, Super Troopers is better than all of them combined lol
 
Trimlock said:
At home:

Have to listen to your wife ask questions and yell at the TV constantly

Have to pause every 10 minutes because your kids need to pee

Have to stop watching because someone nocked on your door

Have to listen to your neighbors yelling at each other

Listen to your neighbors car alarm going off because a cat jumped his hood

Theater:

You only have to take your kids to pee

btw I hate pausing a movie, if I have to pause a movie I'll just come back to re-watch the movie later.
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I couldn't agree more. My kid doesn't even go pee during movies. Hahaha. Those are pretty realistic situations. Add your neighbors dogs barking at random times. I can't tell you how annoying that is.
 
Calavaro said:
Movies are cookie cutter, stencil, dried cardboard, junk.

They follow the same formula every time: Intro, some success, failure, running/panic, resolution, ending. And it always centers on 3 characters. Protagonist, antagonist, and protagonists friend/love interest/dog. The rest are discardable items and cannon fodder.

It seems Hollywood has reduced movies to going from cut scene to cut scene. Rarely do we see character development, surprises or even a slight deviation from the formula.
Then add some idiot director that adds explosions with plenty of gasoline, sex that doesn't fit the movie (but you need tits right?) and blood.

The worst offender for these types of movies is Legendary Films. Such garbage.
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Lmao story telling hasn't changed much in a few thousand years...
 
Business6 said:
Well, if you're going to the movies on a Friday night at 7 yeah, you're going to experience a bunch of goddamn idiots. Do you need to see a movie right when it comes out? Do you need to go to a movie when you know everyone else will be there? Check out the seating availability ahead of time and find out what time will be better for you. It's not that hard to find an off-time showing with a much better experience all around by avoiding people. Whether or not that works for your schedule is the only question, really.
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I never go to any theaters without reserved seating anymore. Watched guardians of the galaxy on day it came out. But had reserved tickets booked from weeke before. Reclined seats, you don't have to get up when when someone is trying to get out. More than enough room. Once every few months it's not bad at all. I have totally stopped going on first days the movie comes out unless I absolutely was looking forward to it and I can get reserved seating. If not I'll wait a few weeks to go!
 
You guys must have pretty shitty theaters. The one time I ever have had a bad experience in the theaters was the one time in the 90s when the film broke. I have never had a problem with people in theaters. I also only ever pay for a ticket, nothing else.
 
I'm hearing really good word of mouth about the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie so I think that'll be fine...summer movies have been about sequels for years now so I think Transformers etc will give people exactly what they're looking for
 
Krenum said:
Knock the wife over the head so shes out for the remainder of the movie

tell your kids if they have to pee youll miss the movie

dont answer the door

get a shotgun

see above ^

:p
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Don't get a wife and don't have kids... both have worked extremely well to enhance my quality of life. (y)
 
I used to be an avid movie goer. But insane prices and loud rude ass people have turned me off from going. As long as that remains the same there are few movies I will actually spend the cash to see in theater.
 
Meh, when you go big, you risk losing big too.

Maybe instead of all these heavily marketed blockbusters they should promote some indie gems or horror movies or something.
 
GotNoRice said:
I don't believe that it's a content issue. Going to the movies vs. watching the movie at home is like taking the bus vs. driving my own car. The idea of having to go to a theater to have a good viewing experience is a relic of decades past, and the pros are now easily outweighed by the cons. They try to force it by having that 6 month delay before the movie is watchable at home, but even with that, it's worth it to wait those 6 months in my opinion.

The more that they try to force this obsolete business model on us, the more money they are going to lose.
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Exactly the whole point is a superior viewing exprrience. Bring back the big screens and invest in some nice projectors. If they can do that then they still have to stop making bland movies and go back to the fundamentals of what makes for engaging film.
 
I mostly watch low budget indie movies these days. They have a creative passion and quality that is missing from big budget Hollywood fare. And those indie movies usually look great on a technical level; technology has made it possible to pump out high quality visuals on a shoestring.
 
$13 a ticket to see some sequel or remake at the cinema or wait 5 months and watch it on Netflix/Prime at home?

Not a tough decision. Plus after the shit that was Prometheus I'm done with the Alien franchise.
 
I went and saw Ghost In The Shell with mates, there was only two screenings, 5:00 and 9:00. Due to the fact it was 4:30 I was forced to go for the 9:00 session and ended up falling asleep in the cinema before the ending! I don't even know what happened!

Two screenings of an evening?! Are you kidding me? No wonder box office ratings are dropping!
 
My only real bad experience in the last few years was when the lights randomly turned on. We all got compensated but still, we missed about 20 minutes of the movie.
 
grtitan said:
I dont mind sequels and franchises,if they are good.

What i hate is the insane prices plus the horrible experience of going out to the movies.
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My AMC IMax theater now allows you to reserve specific seats, so now there is no need to arrive early. I also took half a day and watched Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (fantastic film BTW) with my folks as a mother's day present, and the theater had no kids in it... in particular the lack of urban youths that are peacocking to attract the attention of all females in shouting distance as is otherwise half the audience in the evenings.

So it seems the problem with theaters isn't the theaters, its the douchebags going to them, and they won't ever have control over that.

You'd have to find a theater that had a rule for example of certain showings where no one under 21 is allowed in the theater, with or without parent... which would be a sweet idea, but probably wouldn't take off.
 
Calavaro said:
Movies are cookie cutter, stencil, dried cardboard, junk. They follow the same formula every time: Intro, some success, failure, running/panic, resolution, ending. And it always centers on 3 characters. Protagonist, antagonist, and protagonists friend/love interest/dog. The rest are discardable items and cannon fodder. It seems Hollywood has reduced movies to going from cut scene to cut scene. Rarely do we see character development, surprises or even a slight deviation from the formula. Then add some idiot director that adds explosions with plenty of gasoline, sex that doesn't fit the movie (but you need tits right?) and blood. The worst offender for these types of movies is Legendary Films. Such garbage.
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The movie writing truly sucks: Every movie is made in an attempt to appeal to everyone, and winds up appealing to no one. Think: When was the last time you saw a war movie that was just a great war movie? Or horror or thriller? No love interest, no dopey attempt at comedy inserted, etc.? no multiple plot lines? Just one GREAT plot?
Doesn't happen. Movies today are all like TV shows, with several little stories going on all at the same time. Virtually every single god damn movie has become like the Olympics shows where they no longer focus on the actual main event: Where there's always a 'background story' about how the athlete grew up, his first crush, when he screwed her, how it made him a better man, how it inspired him to work hard to become the best athlete he could be, his mom, which high school he farted in, his dog, his dog's life, his retarded brother, who his sister dated, how she turned gay, in effect, a whole load of nonsense added in just to turn a one minute 100 yard dash event into a 2 1/2 hour 'story' that nobody wants to watch.
Used to be:
Where Eagles Dare was a whole movie about the two guys going to extract another guy out of the nazi castle.
Alien was a whole movie about the damn monster trying to kill everyone. That's all. It was great. Now we get monster movies which are about every damn thing except the monster.

GotNoRice said:
I don't believe that it's a content issue. Going to the movies vs. watching the movie at home is like taking the bus vs. driving my own car. The idea of having to go to a theater to have a good viewing experience is a relic of decades past .
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Mostly because of crappy audiences. I don't go to a lot of movies anymore, but I have yet to experience ONE where some dickhead wasn't annoying the rest of us with a cellphone or having a discussion with someone. Excuse my old man rant, but IN MY DAY when we wanted to screw our girlfriend in the back row of the balcony, we did it quietly (and every single guy within three counties knew which chair in each friggin' theater had the broken backrest so she could recline her ass and we could get down to business during the last show of the night).

GotNoRice said:
I was mostly happy to ignore the shitty movies that I don't care about, but it's funny how even a shitty reboot can destroy the movie landscape. Take Ghostbusters for example. That reboot totally bombed in the theater and that should have been a pretty clear message, but now EVERY single time you see "Ghostbusters" on TV it is the new shit movie, as if the old movie simply no longer exists anymore. Now there will be an entire generation of kids where Ghostbusters will be "that bad movie with those 4 annoying women in it".
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Hadn't seen it yet, because I figured it would suck. But now I'm going to have to search it down, like we did years ago to watch 'Plan 9 from outer space' just to see how awful they can screw up a movie.
 
The only two movies I really plan on seeing are Guardians of the Galaxy v2 and the Wonder Woman movie, that's it; they can keep the other crap. I also go to the cheapest place in town (AMC) at the cheapest time of the day (either morning or early afternoon).
 
deton8 said:
Meh, when you go big, you risk losing big too.

Maybe instead of all these heavily marketed blockbusters they should promote some indie gems or horror movies or something.
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Agreed. Best movie I saw last year was Don't Breathe.
Smashing Young Man said:
I mostly watch low budget indie movies these days. They have a creative passion and quality that is missing from big budget Hollywood fare. And those indie movies usually look great on a technical level; technology has made it possible to pump out high quality visuals on a shoestring.
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Likewise, best movie I've seen so far this year was The Void.
 
NKD said:
There is always that one person. Are you just mad because you wanted to hold on to the first and most precious Guardians of the Galaxy? What the heck was so wrong with the version 2? I enjoyed the heck out of it.
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The following contains SPOILERS for the worst movie of the summer, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

So what's wrong with it. For starters it was 15 minutes too long. Just about everything needed to be trimmed. From the cute opening scene that focused on Groot while an epic battle was transpiring in the background to the Epic Daddy Issues battle at the end, enough already.

Remember the whistling arrow of death from the first movie, you better have liked it because it goes through more enemies than Ebola goes through villagers in Liberia. Trim that shit.

And the whole "don't hurt our feelings" gold women thing, with weapons controlled by a YMCA Spin Class. Wat the Wat

What really bothered me was that the joke timing was off and frequently forced.

And one more thing, emoshuns. It's a summer blockbuster, no one wanted to watch the space version of Manchester by the Sea.

Best movie so far this year wasGet Out.
Now if Aliens Convent is a little better than Prometheus i will be a happy camper.
 
Jim Kim said:
The following contains SPOILERS for the worst movie of the summer, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

So what's wrong with it. For starters it was 15 minutes too long. Just about everything needed to be trimmed. From the cute opening scene that focused on Groot while an epic battle was transpiring in the background to the Epic Daddy Issues battle at the end, enough already.

Remember the whistling arrow of death from the first movie, you better have liked it because it goes through more enemies than Ebola goes through villagers in Liberia. Trim that shit.

And the whole "don't hurt our feelings" gold women thing, with weapons controlled by a YMCA Spin Class. Wat the Wat

What really bothered me was that the joke timing was off and frequently forced.

And one more thing, emoshuns. It's a summer blockbuster, no one wanted to watch the space version of Manchester by the Sea.
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Yea, so your opinion is ... you didn't get the humor.
 
Meh... I could give a rats ass these days, last movie I went to see in a theater was Star Wars in feb of 2016. Now I just wait for them to hit redbox and rent them for cheap...
 
The local theatre here made tickets $10NZD for all non 3D sessions (was about $17 for an adult)

According to the Los Angeles Times, that’s a total loss of $450 million as the overall Summer gross in the US is expected to fall from $4.45 billion to $4 billion, the worst in a decade.
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That's not a loss, its loss of projected earnings, they didnt lose the money, they just didnt earn it... they are still grossing money

They could claim they are losing $200 Billion because every person in the USA isn't seeing 2 movies a week and thus, its the public's fault...
 
Maybe try spending more money hiring writers who can write original stories instead of rehashing the same old shit over and over. Just a thought.
 
I clicked back to the source article--the most important information that's being ignored is that the source talks about this being only the US/Canada box office. Nowadays this represents only around one-third of the global box office, so its not as serious as the headline implies. As far as the type of content being made, again its designed to appeal to the global market. Films that we may not like in US/Canada are big hits around the world, especially in places where ticket prices are more reasonable and home theater equipment is scarcer. Plus even though the studios share of the revenue may be lower in China, with one-fifth of the world's population its the most important new emerging market. So films targeting that market (like Transformers 4) may not necessarily appeal as much to the US/Canada market. Basically, its not just about us.
 
tikiman2012 said:
They didn't "lose" anything. They made shitty products & didn't sell as much of them as they would've liked.
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That's what it all comes down to today, isn't it. Every damn company claims that they're 'losing money' while still paying dividends to their investors and huge salaries and bonuses to the executives who run the company. Started with the insurance frauds back in the '90's claiming that they were losing money when if fact, they were simply making 2% less than they had anticipated making, so they claimed that they were 'losing money'.
What bullshit. Now everybody can claim that they're losing money if they're just not quite making as much as they wish to.
 
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