LG Is Launching a 42.5-Inch 4K IPS with FreeSync

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I wish this guy was a VA panel, but LG has a new monitor coming out with a slew of ports that will allow you to display images from up to four devices simultaneously. Featuring a contrast ratio of up to 1000:1, the 43UD79-B will come color calibrated from the factory and include a bunch of gaming-oriented features such as “Black Stabilizer” and “Dynamic Action Sync (DAS) Mode,” though I don’t see many gamers jumping at this only-60 Hz display. The monitor is expected to ship next week for $697.

The connectivity front is where this monitor really shines. There are two HDMI 2.0 inputs (4K @ 60Hz), two HDMI 1.4 inputs (4K @ 30Hz), one USB 3.1 Type-C port that can operate in DP Alt Mode and thus carry a DisplayPort signal, and one DisplayPort 1.2a input (4K @ 60Hz) that supports the aforementioned FreeSync feature. The reason for all these inputs is that this monitor can display images from up to 4 devices at once. You can either split the screen into four 21.5-inch 1080P sections, two horizontal or vertical sections, or even three sections of varying sizes. There is also support for basic Picture-in-Picture (PIP) if you don't wish to subdivide the screen real estate.
 
Yep I get eye fatigue if the refresh rate isn't higher. I am one of those who are sensitive to low refresh rates I guess. Had to take a dlp home theater projector back because it's color wheel spun too slow and caused headaches after about 30 minutes. I need a minimum of 75hz.
 
TAP said:
Yep I get eye fatigue if the refresh rate isn't higher. I am one of those who are sensitive to low refresh rates I guess. Had to take a dlp home theater projector back because it's color wheel spun too slow and caused headaches after about 30 minutes. I need a minimum of 75hz.
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I get the same thing with Plasma screens - the rainbow effect. Fine with LCDs though.

This monitor is a pretty good price for what it offers though.
 
If I'm not mistaken, this is the same panel used in the recent Philips and Dell monitors of the same size. Meaning image retention could be a severe issue.
 
TAP said:
Yep I get eye fatigue if the refresh rate isn't higher. I am one of those who are sensitive to low refresh rates I guess. Had to take a dlp home theater projector back because it's color wheel spun too slow and caused headaches after about 30 minutes. I need a minimum of 75hz.
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I'm the same way. Being spoiled by 144 Hz for 5 years now I can see the flashing when going back down to 60 Hz, and my eyes will start to hurt and tear up after 15 minutes.
 
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stelonous said:
FreeSync is the killjoy in this product. I wish Nvidia and AMD could come to a standard for v-sync. (Dreaming I know.)
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I mean, isn't that wat FreeSync is. It's incorporated into the Displayport (and now I imagine HDMI as well) standard, and doesn't require additional hardware like G-Sync.

That rant aside, I wonder if FreeSycn still works for each device if you have 4 different devices hooked up all as FHD, as that is a pretty cool feature. For it's size, IPS, 4k, seems like a pretty decent price.
 
britjh22 said:
I mean, isn't that wat FreeSync is. It's incorporated into the Displayport (and now I imagine HDMI as well) standard, and doesn't require additional hardware like G-Sync.

That rant aside, I wonder if FreeSycn still works for each device if you have 4 different devices hooked up all as FHD, as that is a pretty cool feature. For it's size, IPS, 4k, seems like a pretty decent price.
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Adaptive Sync is an optional feature in the DisplayPort specification. It is up to both the monitor and video card manufacturers to implement and support it. Freesync is AMD's implementation of Adaptive Sync.

Game Mode VRR in HDMI 2.1 is not the same as Adaptive Sync in the DisplayPort 1.3 standard. The language being used in what we know so far suggests that no additional work is needed to get Game Mode VRR working on the display or video card side of the equation, implying that it is built into the spec (not optional). I am definitely interested to learn more about how it works and to see it in action.
 
How about 1080p at 120 Hz? No? Fuck off, LG.
 
Armenius said:
If I'm not mistaken, this is the same panel used in the recent Philips and Dell monitors of the same size. Meaning image retention could be a severe issue.
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It's an ips display, the ones you are taking about are VA no? Ips doesn't ghost like VA monitors do.
 
Chaos Machine said:
It's an ips display, the ones you are taking about are VA no? Ips doesn't ghost like VA monitors do.
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Image retention/image burn-in. As in the previous image is retained in the crystal, so you can see it on top of the new images. Ghosting is just an effect of slow response time, where the pixels haven't fully transitioned to the new color by the time a new image is displayed. The retention issue is discussed at length in the discussion thread for the Dell P4317Q.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=210-AHSQ
https://hardforum.com/threads/dell-43-ultra-hd-4k-multi-client-monitor-p4317q.1897889/

http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/BDM4350UC_27/brilliance-4k-ultra-hd-lcd-display
https://hardforum.com/threads/philips-bdm4350uc-43-inch-4k-ips-pwm-free-monitor.1894807/
 
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Armenius said:
I'm the same way. Being spoiled by 144 Hz for 5 years now I can see the flashing when going back down to 60 Hz, and my eyes will start to hurt and tear up after 15 minutes.
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I think the bigger the screen the more exaggerated the refresh rate gets. I'm using 144Hz at home and a 120Hz 1080p at work. I tried a 4K 43" 60hz display recently and my eyes were watering after 5 minutes. I couldn't use it had to return it. But I get no problems with the 22" 60hz monitor I use as my tertiary at work.
 
focbde said:
I get the same thing with Plasma screens - the rainbow effect. Fine with LCDs though.

This monitor is a pretty good price for what it offers though.
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Why? At least if you are a gamer, you'll need twice as many video cards and the extra juice from a larger PSU to drive that large a display at a decent resolution.

Back when 34" was the mark it was the same, and people complained about the more expensive G-Sync but the money you save with a freesync monitor just has to be thrown at an extra card and larger PSU, and the power bill, and the extra heat.

I opted for what I felt was the better engineered solution and so far I am happy I did. The price difference with the 21:9s is not as great as some people think, if you are a gamer.

If you are not a gamer then knock yourself out, Freesync is an option ..... and then .... you don't even need the Freesync soooo, save even more.
 
4k is totally doable on a single 1080 Ti now. So it doesn't take some outrageous expense to drive 4k anymore.
 
OpStar said:
4k is totally doable on a single 1080 Ti now. So it doesn't take some outrageous expense to drive 4k anymore.
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Yep, tbh I'll take 60hz and 40" over 144hz @ 27" any day, I don't play mobas though and my shooter portfolio is pretty much just overwatch.

Btw on a 1080ti overwatch runs like butter with everything max except aa(why?)
 
stelonous said:
FreeSync is the killjoy in this product. I wish Nvidia and AMD could come to a standard for v-sync. (Dreaming I know.)
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Well, Adaptive Sync is free to use and implement. Nothing is stopping Nvidia from applying it (and it does on notebooks).

Essentially, Nvidia is the one who is stopping the universal standard.
 
That's kinda funny ........ this product is already available .... but it's called the Samsung KS8000 .................... and I've had it going on a year now.
 
KazeoHin said:
Well, Adaptive Sync is free to use and implement. Nothing is stopping Nvidia from applying it (and it does on notebooks).

Essentially, Nvidia is the one who is stopping the universal standard.
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Keep in mind, Nvidia's implementation is NOT to the exact spec and it utilizes certain proprietary tech. It is the superior performer, but it costs money, requires you to be locked into one GPU manufacturer and it brings up the over all cost for developing the monitor.
 
M76 said:
I think the bigger the screen the more exaggerated the refresh rate gets. I'm using 144Hz at home and a 120Hz 1080p at work. I tried a 4K 43" 60hz display recently and my eyes were watering after 5 minutes. I couldn't use it had to return it. But I get no problems with the 22" 60hz monitor I use as my tertiary at work.
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I'm curious what's causing your distress. Do you see flickering? Jerky movement?

Are you reading relatively static text on the 43" 60Hz display? Or is it fast moving graphics?
What sort of LED backlight dimming control do the 43" and 22" monitors have? PWM? or Current Adjustment?
If you don't know, could you list the model numbers so I can try to look up the information?

Luckily I'm not sensitive to DLP colour wheel rainbowing. But I definitely was sensitive to CRT phosphor flicker.
 
bbf said:
I'm curious what's causing your distress. Do you see flickering? Jerky movement?

Are you reading relatively static text on the 43" 60Hz display? Or is it fast moving graphics?
What sort of LED backlight dimming control do the 43" and 22" monitors have? PWM? or Current Adjustment?
If you don't know, could you list the model numbers so I can try to look up the information?

Luckily I'm not sensitive to DLP colour wheel rainbowing. But I definitely was sensitive to CRT phosphor flicker.
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I experienced extreme eye fatigue regardless of what I was doing. Eg. Watching a movie, gaming, or static text made no difference. This is the model. I don't know if it had pwm or not couldn't find information on that. I'm beginning to think that I have a problem specifically with ips displays. I haven't seen one that I'd have liked so far. They seem to have too much contrast for me, images feel burnt out.
There is even less info on the 22" monitor as it is an older model. LG W2242T-BF
 
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