Optane questions

Ronco

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Now that I'm getting into video a bit, I'm mulling over rebuilding or rebuying my main media editing system sometime this year or maybe early next year.

I'm looking to do editing on the unit with a sizeable portion of the still/moving library actually shadowed on the PC, so will be looking at an all-SSD setup.

I haven't looked too much into it but I saw the stuff happening around Optane and the consumer release, so I had a few questions:

- When will a consumer-facing version be launched that's in the 1-2Tb range?

- Failing that, can I use the U.2 enterprise versions (I'm assuming Intel will be on track to release the larger capacity units later in the year) on a typical higher-end motherboard available now onwards, and what bottlenecks will that entail?

- Is it really going to be faster for heavy reads and writes than say a 960 Pro or whatever Samsung has lined up next?


Please enlighten a high-performance SSD ignoramus
 
I'm not sure anyone has one to see exactly what they will or wont do. Intel press releases only get a person so far.

I've been lurking around many a site waiting for a review from a normal human so I could get a better understanding and see some performance numbers.
 
The only official "Optane" thing right now is basically a good HDD cache. That's about it.

Everything else is pure speculation.
 
When will a consumer-facing version be launched that's in the 1-2Tb range?

Considering the Enterprise version costs $1500 for a 375GB, I expect this to not happen until the 2020s.

The consumer stuff will just be for a cache. I believe 16GB and 32GB .
 
Oh, additional question - in terms of enterprise plug-in cards, what chipset would I need for best performance?
 
Invest in a good NVME M.2 solution as a primary drive then a solid pair of 1tb ssds Ina raid 1 for your working files and lastly an external 12tb enclosure for longer term storage. And if you want to get crazy get yourself an LTO drive for really long term backups depending on your data growth.
 
Considering the Enterprise version costs $1500 for a 375GB, I expect this to not happen until the 2020s.

The consumer stuff will just be for a cache. I believe 16GB and 32GB .

Should see a consumer Optane storage device sometime within next 11 months.
Remember Intel were the 1st to release an NVMe PCIe SSD as an enterprise product I think called the P3700/P3500 and 11-12months later was released as a consumer product as the 750 PCIe SSD.

The cache I think hooks into the M.2 PCIe as a 2 x PCIe NVMe device.
Shame the cache was not say 64GB, but also it has another limitation that it can currently only be tied to the boot drive, for game consumers one would want to tie it to the separate SSD game drive as a simple solution cache/memory/VRAM solution.
Its benefit in theory would be massively lower latency for loading textures/etc.

Cheers
 
Invest in a good NVME M.2 solution as a primary drive then a solid pair of 1tb ssds Ina raid 1 for your working files and lastly an external 12tb enclosure for longer term storage. And if you want to get crazy get yourself an LTO drive for really long term backups depending on your data growth.

I already have way better than that, which is why I'm asking.

But I think the more detailed reviews now out - thanks for the links - answers a lot of my questions. And I think it'd be a good fit. I guess it's just a matter of when I start teh replacement cycle and where the state of Optane is at that point.
 
Whatever happened to thorough reviews?

Intel hasn't even replied if I can use 3 x NVMe M.2 slots w/ 3 x 32GB Optanes and attach 3 x 4TB WD Black HDDs.

Its like Intel sends the boys a free Optane, now test it like this, use this drive use this benchmark, send us your for NDA agreement before posting.
There you go, thanks again.....

I'd love 12TBs of storage at super low latency and NVMe M.2 speeds for hundreds instead of thousands...
 
Whatever happened to thorough reviews?

Intel hasn't even replied if I can use 3 x NVMe M.2 slots w/ 3 x 32GB Optanes and attach 3 x 4TB WD Black HDDs.

Its like Intel sends the boys a free Optane, now test it like this, use this drive use this benchmark, send us your for NDA agreement before posting.
There you go, thanks again.....

I'd love 12TBs of storage at super low latency and NVMe M.2 speeds for hundreds instead of thousands...

In memory cache config they can only attach to the boot drive to date, personally this is something Intel needs to work on fast and change IMO as it is very limiting.
So means only 1 x32GB Optane can be used as a memory cache for an SSD, which must be the boot drive.
You can install more 32GB Optanes but used as a more traditional SSD, but why would one want to do that tbh for a total of 96GB in the real world (would be rather niche).

Also another headache is using it in a RAID setup for now as a cache memory (I think).
CHeers
 
This sucks. I was planning to move my Steam files back to a large spinner and cache with Optane so whatever I'm playing lately would be speedy. Looks like that isn't possible.

As-is, looks useless in my PC.
 
Whatever happened to thorough reviews?

Intel hasn't even replied if I can use 3 x NVMe M.2 slots w/ 3 x 32GB Optanes and attach 3 x 4TB WD Black HDDs.

Its like Intel sends the boys a free Optane, now test it like this, use this drive use this benchmark, send us your for NDA agreement before posting.
There you go, thanks again.....

I'd love 12TBs of storage at super low latency and NVMe M.2 speeds for hundreds instead of thousands...

Whatever happened to potential users who think?

Have you thought about the cache hit rates for your 4Tb drives?
 
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