This Is What Xbox Games Look like on Project Scorpio on 4K and 1080p Displays

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It was previously reported that Project Scorpio will use supersampling to deliver enhanced Xbox graphics to 1080p TVs, and now Windows Central has image sliders up that demonstrate the level of visual fidelity buyers of the new Xbox can expect even if they don’t have the ideal TV to pair it with. While most gamers will be running Project Scorpio on a 4K display, it is cool to see just what the hardware is capable of. Also demonstrated is how the additional GPU power can be used to create finer details and more complex textures.

While you will undoubtedly need a 4K set to see the true benefits of Project Scorpio, you will get many enhances textures, geometry, and effects on standard HD displays. These images show enhancements Scorpio can make to existing Xbox One titles by virtue of resolution bumps alone, without any additional tweaking and features that utilize Scorpio's monstrous specs. It's looking like a 2017 holiday-season launch for Project Scorpio. The console will be compatible with all of your existing Xbox One games and accessories, it comes with 4K game DVR and UHD Blu-ray, and it will leverage 6TF of GPU power to produce 4K games.
 
Xbox 720, 0->360->1->720

EDIT: after looking at the images, I am not entirely sure if I can actually notice the difference, especially taking into account the distance I am going to sit from my TV.
 
Xbox 720, 0->360->1->720

EDIT: after looking at the images, I am not entirely sure if I can actually notice the difference, especially taking into account the distance I am going to sit from my TV.

I think as a whole, the image is going to be much clearer for 1080p TV users. Will it be astronomical? I don't think so, but it'll be enough to where people will think it looks great.
 
So people are getting ugly and ugly with each "upgrade". Mass Effect Andromeda... weird faces. Now this "upgrade", the girl gets a crater face.

Ultra realistic oozing & popping zits are next. Great! smh.
 
So consoles will have graphics features that PC's have had for a long time now.. cool
I'm with you man, it's cool that they kinda caught up, but on the other hand everyone is treating this like the second coming lol. I find it very funny. It's been done years ago 4k on PC,
Nothing to see here move on :D Yes it will be the most powerful console so far but stop over-analysing it's getting stupid.
 
6TF of GPU power to produce 4K games

So less powerful than my Fury.. that I'm worried about maintaining 60+ since I just upgraded to 1440p. And they're driving twice the pixels....
 
Why does every console article have to turn into a war with PC gaming?

Some people don't understand what marketing does, they push and talk about features that the product they are trying to sell has.

ALso it's not like pc desktops are the inventors of anything either. There is always somewhere else that the technology was developed and being used long before consumer markets.
 
So consoles will have graphics features that PC's have had for a long time now.. cool

This always comes up, but will say this again like I did with the PS4 PRO; which is to say that what they are doing at the price point they are at is nothing short of impressive. I have a great 4K set and a PS4 Pro and regardless of what 4K Checkerboarding or whatever tech they are using to make games looks as good as they do is astounding. If the rumors are true of Scorpio being $499 then that is an incredible deal for a machine that not only can run native 4K games, but can also play 4K UHD Blu Rays. What the PS4 Pro is able to do for $399 you could not do with a PC for less than $700. Same story with the Scorpio considering the amount of power that thing has.

I know it is easy to want to feel superior and be cynical in regards to consoles, but I believe some credit is due to Microsoft and Sony for pushing their tech further at a good price point. Hell, consoles are even starting to introduce cross-platform play and with the case of Skyrim and Fallout 4 even have mods now which PC gamers have enjoyed for years. Finally consoles are approaching par with the PC in terms of gaming, but still beat PC when it comes to value for tech. I love PC Gaming as much as everyone here, but I can also acknowledge the very positive progress and direction consoles have been going.

So less powerful than my Fury.. that I'm worried about maintaining 60+ since I just upgraded to 1440p. And they're driving twice the pixels....

I would mention that is is being achieved with dedicated hardware meaning that while PC games have to account for about a million different configurations of hardware, console games only have to account for one. Just look at Uncharted 4 on PS4 Pro and on a 4K TV... it is still the best looking game I have ever seen on any platform including PC. Watchdogs 2 in 4K on PS4 looks incredible, and so does Ratchet and Clank. 4K is very possible on the consoles albeit with some other methods like checkerboarding.
 
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This always comes up, but will say this again like I did with the PS4 PRO; which is to say that what they are doing at the price point they are at is nothing short of impressive. I have a great 4K set and a PS4 Pro and regardless of what 4K Checkerboarding or whatever tech they are using to make games looks as good as they do is astounding. If the rumors are true of Scorpio being $499 then that is an incredible deal for a machine that not only can run native 4K games, but can also play 4K UHD Blu Rays. What the PS4 Pro is able to do for $399 you could not do with a PC for less than $700. Same story with the Scorpio considering the amount of power that thing has.

I know it is easy to want to feel superior and be cynical in regards to consoles, but I believe some credit is due to Microsoft and Sony for pushing their tech further at a good price point. Hell, consoles are even starting to introduce cross-platform play and with the case of Skyrim and Fallout 4 even have mods now which PC gamers have enjoyed for years. Finally consoles are approaching par with the PC in terms of gaming, but still beat PC when it comes to value for tech. I love PC Gaming as much as everyone here, but I can also acknowledge the very positive progress and direction consoles have been going.

Please take your open mindedness and leave the internet, your kind isn't welcomed. haha :D
 
SSAA, 1TB hard drives, Variable refresh rates... It's like console players are living in 2007.

This always comes up, but will say this again like I did with the PS4 PRO; which is to say that what they are doing at the price point they are at is nothing short of impressive. I have a great 4K set and a PS4 Pro and regardless of what 4K Checkerboarding or whatever tech they are using to make games looks as good as they do is astounding. If the rumors are true of Scorpio being $499 then that is an incredible deal for a machine that not only can run native 4K games, but can also play 4K UHD Blu Rays. What the PS4 Pro is able to do for $399 you could not do with a PC for less than $700. Same story with the Scorpio considering the amount of power that thing has.

I know it is easy to want to feel superior and be cynical in regards to consoles, but I believe some credit is due to Microsoft and Sony for pushing their tech further at a good price point. Hell, consoles are even starting to introduce cross-platform play and with the case of Skyrim and Fallout 4 even have mods now which PC gamers have enjoyed for years. Finally consoles are approaching par with the PC in terms of gaming, but still beat PC when it comes to value for tech. I love PC Gaming as much as everyone here, but I can also acknowledge the very positive progress and direction consoles have been going.

It's really not hard to build a PC that'll keep up with modern consoles at a comparable price point. What's hard is finding games to compare across platforms, since most AAA devs seem to have a hardon for shit ports.
 
So that's what turd graphics look like after being polished a little. And I thought they said you can't polish a turd, mythbusters proved that wrong at least :)
 
SSAA, 1TB hard drives, Variable refresh rates... It's like console players are living in 2007.



It's really not hard to build a PC that'll keep up with modern consoles at a comparable price point. What's hard is finding games to compare across platforms, since most AAA devs seem to have a hardon for shit ports.

I agree. But lets start another fight at the moment. I game on both platforms pretty equally just for background info.

I can build a decent pc to do gaming on, for a $400 pricetag that gets pretty difficult and will require pricewatching and buying from different vendors. Also the labor of putting it together, installing windows (which now we are on that subject, likes to collect tons of data on me so that really isnt my favorite but w/e), make sure I grab all the drivers and get the system up and running. I didn't look but what is the going price for windows 10 now? that is for sure an added cost.

Now for ps4, i just grab it off the shelf and turn it on. I could probably do that with pc but we all know how much garbage is on there that needs removed before it really is a decent platform.

PC is a great gaming platform no doubt, but the companies invovled with it are ruining it as a whole. Forcing people to have to build their own systems to be any use. This is not a good method for getting it into lots of peoples hands.

Also while the console gamers are mostly kids, pc gamers tend to be a bit snooty, so for the community you really just pick your poison.

So can anyone partpicker a pc that is better than ps4pro? Needs to be full, that means OS counts. Price limit is $399 plus tax, +$60 (a year of psn), and I get a 1year warranty on the system. Also let us keep the same similar form factor for the case. I like how small the ps4pro is compared to my desktop and laptop.
 
I agree. But lets start another fight at the moment. I game on both platforms pretty equally just for background info.

I can build a decent pc to do gaming on, for a $400 pricetag that gets pretty difficult and will require pricewatching and buying from different vendors. Also the labor of putting it together, installing windows (which now we are on that subject, likes to collect tons of data on me so that really isnt my favorite but w/e), make sure I grab all the drivers and get the system up and running. I didn't look but what is the going price for windows 10 now? that is for sure an added cost.

Now for ps4, i just grab it off the shelf and turn it on. I could probably do that with pc but we all know how much garbage is on there that needs removed before it really is a decent platform.

PC is a great gaming platform no doubt, but the companies invovled with it are ruining it as a whole. Forcing people to have to build their own systems to be any use. This is not a good method for getting it into lots of peoples hands.

Also while the console gamers are mostly kids, pc gamers tend to be a bit snooty, so for the community you really just pick your poison.

So can anyone partpicker a pc that is better than ps4pro? Needs to be full, that means OS counts. Price limit is $399 plus tax, +$60 (a year of psn), and I get a 1year warranty on the system.


This is just begging the question. You've pretty much answered your own query as to why consoles are just more practical. I'm sure someone can really grasp at some straws to get what you're asking for, but if the games aren't being optimized for the platform, what difference does it make? I'd still take the console over the desktop.

There really isn't any streamlined PC experience. It's the same sort of issue that presents itself with Android on mobile devices. Apps aren't properly optimized due to the myriad of different devices and their respective configurations. Apple doesn't lead the pack because of specs - it leads because its app/OS optimization generally kicks Android butt, and that is largely due to having a proprietary platform.
 
How cute. They tried to get me to turn off my adblock, claiming it'd break the image slider.
It worked just fine for me.

I'm not an Xbox guy but I'm curious to see how which console will come out on top, ps4 or Xbox?
 
I agree. But lets start another fight at the moment. I game on both platforms pretty equally just for background info.

I can build a decent pc to do gaming on, for a $400 pricetag that gets pretty difficult and will require pricewatching and buying from different vendors. Also the labor of putting it together, installing windows (which now we are on that subject, likes to collect tons of data on me so that really isnt my favorite but w/e), make sure I grab all the drivers and get the system up and running. I didn't look but what is the going price for windows 10 now? that is for sure an added cost.

Now for ps4, i just grab it off the shelf and turn it on. I could probably do that with pc but we all know how much garbage is on there that needs removed before it really is a decent platform.

PC is a great gaming platform no doubt, but the companies invovled with it are ruining it as a whole. Forcing people to have to build their own systems to be any use. This is not a good method for getting it into lots of peoples hands.

Also while the console gamers are mostly kids, pc gamers tend to be a bit snooty, so for the community you really just pick your poison.

So can anyone partpicker a pc that is better than ps4pro? Needs to be full, that means OS counts. Price limit is $399 plus tax, +$60 (a year of psn), and I get a 1year warranty on the system. Also let us keep the same similar form factor for the case. I like how small the ps4pro is compared to my desktop and laptop.

Definitely, and this is why I'll always buy the latest console (usually Sony's; friends and I always buy the same so we can play together). I don't even game on my PC anymore, the system just sits perpetually off (see sig). Sure, I could hook up my PC to my TV in the living room and play something, but I don't want to do any of that, and I definitely don't want a keyboard and mouse on my lap. I just want to sit down, push the on button on the controller, and get right into a game. For some people, simplicity can't be argued against, and this is coming from a die hard PC user. Our needs and perspectives change as time goes on, I know mine sure did.
 
Why does every console article have to turn into a war with PC gaming?
Well Microsoft used to be pushing PC gaming quite a bit, then they released the Xbox and dropped PC gamers like a wet turd for about 15 years, yet continued to make the OS for their gaming platform. It's created feelings of passive-aggressiveness like nothing else I can think of in the industry. It would be like if Sony continued to make the Playstation 4, but only released games for the Xbox.

So can anyone partpicker a pc that is better than ps4pro? Needs to be full, that means OS counts. Price limit is $399 plus tax, +$60 (a year of psn), and I get a 1year warranty on the system. Also let us keep the same similar form factor for the case. I like how small the ps4pro is compared to my desktop and laptop.
The cost savings on PC typically don't come from the hardware, like you said. It's rare that you can put something together as powerful as a console for the same amount of money and that's WITHOUT factoring in optimizations. The real savings on PC comes from the games themselves. If you wait for Steam and GOG sales, you save money on the PC by a country mile, there's just no contest at all on that front. So the upfront costs are going to be higher on the PC, but the long term costs are higher on the console overall.
 
On the specs for the system.. it's not exactly clear if it PLAYS 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays, or does pass-through like all the other 4k blu players that made it sound like they can play 4k Ultra Blues but can't?
 
Heres what it looks like in ultra high def! As I look at it on a 1080p monitor....yup looks the same to me ;)
 
Calling it now. Scorpio is doomed. This is almost EXACTLY what the PS4 Pro is doing...you can pick nits about "checkerboarding" vs. "True" 4k rendering all you want...but in the end, it's going to provide a MINOR improvement for 1080p gamers...and will look OK on UHD displays. The PS4 Pro is currently selling OK...not great....at a $400 price point. (Currently #70 or so in the Amazon monthly rankings, plain PS4 "slim" is at #10 or so) At $499 (which I think is optimistic, given the specs reported), they wont sell HALF of what the PS4 Pro is selling, possibly even less.

Worst of all, there is NO COMPELLING REASON for someone to buy one...ESPECIALLY if they game on PC! EVERY SINGLE NEW XBOX GAME will be on PC as well! I expect the fanboys to buy them, but mainstream gamers...nope. That ship already sailed.
 
Heres what it looks like in ultra high def! As I look at it on a 1080p monitor....yup looks the same to me ;)

Those are like the hdr non-hdr comparisons as well.

Pointless because the ones that can see it already have it which means they already bought it so they don't care about the comparisons haha.
 
On the specs for the system.. it's not exactly clear if it PLAYS 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays, or does pass-through like all the other 4k blu players that made it sound like they can play 4k Ultra Blues but can't?

The Xbox One S and the Scorpio both play Ultra 4K Blu-rays. For some reason the PlayStation 4 Pro does not...
 
Heres what it looks like in ultra high def! As I look at it on a 1080p monitor....yup looks the same to me ;)
These are crappy examples. In theory, it means you should be getting 2x2 SSAA on every game, which can make a BIG difference in visual quality, depending on the content. Things like chainlink fences, light shimmering off of metal, lots of grass, etc. SSAA goes a long ways towards cleaning up.
 
While this isn't going to be true 4k gaming in all it's glory, as we are still getting 1080p games that you can play with some 4k textures ect, it's going to be a massive boost in pc quality from ports. Anyone who is a PC gamer should be really excited about this hardware, regardless if you would ever buy it, because with the increasing microsoft game support in windows, we will see more pc foward looking games.
 
So can anyone partpicker a pc that is better than ps4pro? Needs to be full, that means OS counts. Price limit is $399 plus tax, +$60 (a year of psn), and I get a 1year warranty on the system. Also let us keep the same similar form factor for the case. I like how small the ps4pro is compared to my desktop and laptop.
You might be forgetting that the PS4 Pro, PS4, Xbone and scorpio can't render nearly all games at above 30fps, and in a lot of cases struggle to do even that at 1080p.
My current rig can play all the latest games at >30fps, most of them at >60fps and I bargain binned it together from used parts for roughly $200.

So yeah, I can beat it.
I do own a ps4 for some of the console games that aren't on PC.
 
You might be forgetting that the PS4 Pro, PS4, Xbone and scorpio can't render nearly all games at above 30fps, and in a lot of cases struggle to do even that at 1080p.
My current rig can play all the latest games at >30fps, most of them at >60fps and I bargain binned it together from used parts for roughly $200.

So yeah, I can beat it.
I do own a ps4 for some of the console games that aren't on PC.

That doesn't really seem like the comparison he asked for. You are buying used parts from various sources, almost certainly have a much larger form factor, the cost of the OS & peripherals (mouse/keyboard), and you have to build it yourself. That is not the same thing as walking into a store and picking out a new PS4 or Xbox and turning it on when you get home.

Simplicity sells.
 
Definitely, and this is why I'll always buy the latest console (usually Sony's; friends and I always buy the same so we can play together). I don't even game on my PC anymore, the system just sits perpetually off (see sig). Sure, I could hook up my PC to my TV in the living room and play something, but I don't want to do any of that, and I definitely don't want a keyboard and mouse on my lap. I just want to sit down, push the on button on the controller, and get right into a game. For some people, simplicity can't be argued against, and this is coming from a die hard PC user. Our needs and perspectives change as time goes on, I know mine sure did.

My 5 year old plays pc games by himself. I run a gaming VM with pci passthrough of a quadro card that steams to his steamlink $(19.99) with xbox controller. I don't even think he knows he's gaming on a PC. That is pretty simply IMHO.

On top of that, if he starts playing too long, I can remotely shut down the host pc in about 10 seconds (even from work 30 miles away..) or so by simply remoting into the VM server and telling it to shut down his "rendering" vm.

In any case, with i5-3xxx's at sub $200 with windows license on ebay & 1050 ti's being $120 on sale, it's worth it, IMHO to put together a gaming pc in which the games tend to be much, much cheaper...
 
My 5 year old plays pc games by himself. I run a gaming VM with pci passthrough of a quadro card that steams to his steamlink $(19.99) with xbox controller. I don't even think he knows he's caming on a PC. That is pretty simply IMHO.

On top of that, if he starts playing too long, I can remotely shut down the host pc in about 10 seconds or so by simply remoting into the VM server.

I have a very similar setup myself using Nvidia Shields for game streaming and use it for most of my time spent gaming. When it works, it is just like having a console and it is much more convenient to pick up and play for a short stint. The encoding latency on my gigabit network is less than 2ms and is virtually unnoticeable.

Unfortunately the games can be hit or miss with compatibility. I almost always need to have a keyboard/mouse combo handy to "fix" the issues when a game didn't launch right or a prompt caused it to halt. This is especially true if you wanted to play UWP games. I have also had problems with games not switching aspect ratio correctly. I have a 21:9 monitor and some games (like Rise of the Tomb Raider) want to stream 21:9 even though the streaming resolution is 16:9.

I should also note that I did start with a Steam Link and I switched to the Nvidia Shield for better performance and compatibility. It allowed me to consolidate down to one box for all of my TV needs. Both are good options though if you don't mind a bit of tinkering.
 
My 5 year old plays pc games by himself. I run a gaming VM with pci passthrough of a quadro card that steams to his steamlink $(19.99) with xbox controller. I don't even think he knows he's gaming on a PC. That is pretty simply IMHO.

On top of that, if he starts playing too long, I can remotely shut down the host pc in about 10 seconds (even from work 30 miles away..) or so by simply remoting into the VM server and telling it to shut down his "rendering" vm.

In any case, with i5-3xxx's at sub $200 with windows license on ebay & 1050 ti's being $120 on sale, it's worth it, IMHO to put together a gaming pc in which the games tend to be much, much cheaper...

I think the one line I highlighted in orange is enough to detract the average gamer who doesn't use a PC (or never has for that matter). It's just too complicated, versus buying a console, plugging it into the wall, and pushing power. I suppose if you get this shown to you, it makes sense how easy it is, and the rest is history, but for everyone else, they won't have access to something like this. PC games are pretty cheap, and I'm one to hunt for good deals, but the used game market is dirt cheap for a lot of games on consoles, so that argument isn't that strong really. I wish I could get more of my friends into PC gaming, but it's like trying to stuff your dick into a cheerio.
 
Why does every console article have to turn into a war with PC gaming?

It's a good thing for PC gaming as devs are more likely to create higher quality assets for console games which means they will be better for PC. Consoles are a chief reason visual quality in games suffers so this move is only a good thing.
 
I think the one line I highlighted in orange is enough to detract the average gamer who doesn't use a PC (or never has for that matter). It's just too complicated, versus buying a console, plugging it into the wall, and pushing power. I suppose if you get this shown to you, it makes sense how easy it is, and the rest is history, but for everyone else, they won't have access to something like this. PC games are pretty cheap, and I'm one to hunt for good deals, but the used game market is dirt cheap for a lot of games on consoles, so that argument isn't that strong really. I wish I could get more of my friends into PC gaming, but it's like trying to stuff your dick into a cheerio.

If the VM is too hard, pick up an ebay machine for $150 & slap a 1050ti into it. If you feel really fancy, grab an SSD. May have to know how to install video drivers & or OS however.

I wish I could get my friends into _any_ gaming. Pretty much everyone I know that is 35+ doesn't play video games anymore (I'm 41 myself...). My brother (now 39) used to have a wii but that was short lived. My other brother who is 35 has absolutely no interest at all (not married & doesn't have kids either...)
 
I'm seeing a little differences in the images, but not "buy a new console" levels of difference. The real issue is, they used all this power to make a higher-res game, but won't bother using it to improve gameplay.
 
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