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What is "Four play"?
Did that once...
Three Play isn't all that bad either.
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What is "Four play"?
How the hell do kids have 3 hours a day to play video games? Shouldn't they be studying, participating in school activities, or something more productive in life. This is a big problem in society as we are finding that our kids increasingly are unable to be competitive against a globalized work force. I'm relatively old in the mid stages of my life and I havn't even had time to game or even watch TV for 17 weeks now. Perhaps we should be glad they are not interested in sex as I'm not sure I want them procreating.
This from someone called AMDGAMER. Actually this is a good thing. Why would I want to teach my children how to run themselves into the ground? They get good grades, they work hard, half of them (I have four) play sports, (sometimes in select leagues even), but they are damned sure going to have their time to relax and do the things THEY want to do too. I will never push them into doing anything at the expense of living. Sure, I'll nudge them a bit to keep them working hard, sure, I'll push them into doing what's necessary to be able to achieve what they want to in life. However, you get one life. Who wants to run themselves into the ground until they retire? What then? Get around to all those things you always wanted to do? Oh wait, that's right, you're old now. If you're someone that thrives on that "competitive global workforce" and that IS what you want to do and enjoy doing (there are plenty of people like that) then cool. I'd just never try to steer my kids that way. Success? Yes, but not at the expense of enjoying life too.
It used to be, you run yourself into the ground until you retire at 40. Now, you do what you can until you retire at death.
Yep. I think that this attitude really needs to change. It's actually counter-intuitive. We are automating things more and more. We are shifting more and more of what we call work to tasks that SHOULD be more flexible, both in hours worked, locations worked from, etc. The more we advance ourselves technologically, the more we SHOULD have time to enjoy ourselves, engage in artistic endeavors, and really enjoy some form of new renaissance. (at least to a degree) Yes, we should keep pushing forward, no we shouldn't become lazy, but what's the point of advancing things if we're also increasing what's expected of everyone both in availability, hours worked, etc.? Might as well toil away doing what the robots are doing if it means we can actually disconnect and do the things we want to more.
I'm a systems administrator. I'm one of the few on the team that refuses to install the mobile device management software on my phone, install Skype/Lync on my phone, etc. You either email me or call me, and I better be the on-call person in the rotation if you contact me after hours. So many people are so fast to give up a little bit of privacy, detachment from the corporation. I know people here that sit on their laptops, still VPNed in after hours while they should be getting a little downtime in. Some fun? Some sleep? Social interaction? It's just dumb.
Way off topic I guess now. This stuff just bothers me
The fear of making a mistake. Back in my day and your day...mistakes were made. Apologies were made. Anything but the most grievous of sins was forgotten and we moved on. These days if you make a mistake...you are fucked for life. It will NEVER be forgotten and you will spend the rest of your life that every time you put a step forward that a sledge hammer is waiting to crush you into oblivion.
It used to be, you run yourself into the ground until you retire at 40. Now, you do what you can until you retire at death.
That's the effect of competition. Eventually, if you won't do it, someone else will come along that will.
Yep. I think that this attitude really needs to change. It's actually counter-intuitive. We are automating things more and more. We are shifting more and more of what we call work to tasks that SHOULD be more flexible, both in hours worked, locations worked from, etc. The more we advance ourselves technologically, the more we SHOULD have time to enjoy ourselves, engage in artistic endeavors, and really enjoy some form of new renaissance. (at least to a degree) Yes, we should keep pushing forward, no we shouldn't become lazy, but what's the point of advancing things if we're also increasing what's expected of everyone both in availability, hours worked, etc.? Might as well toil away doing what the robots are doing if it means we can actually disconnect and do the things we want to more.
I'm a systems administrator. I'm one of the few on the team that refuses to install the mobile device management software on my phone, install Skype/Lync on my phone, etc. You either email me or call me, and I better be the on-call person in the rotation if you contact me after hours. So many people are so fast to give up a little bit of privacy, detachment from the corporation. I know people here that sit on their laptops, still VPNed in after hours while they should be getting a little downtime in. Some fun? Some sleep? Social interaction? It's just dumb.
Way off topic I guess now. This stuff just bothers me
Actually that is EXACTLY how it works. I just think you mistook what I was trying to say.....................................So, yes, sitting at home doing my thing is every bit as enriching as anything else I could be doing. In fact it's one of the first things where I had enough of a passion to learn it from the ground up, stick with it, and become proficient at it just for the pure learning, knowledge, process, and yes, the end result is fun too.
This from someone called AMDGAMER. Actually this is a good thing. Why would I want to teach my children how to run themselves into the ground? They get good grades, they work hard, half of them (I have four) play sports, (sometimes in select leagues even), but they are damned sure going to have their time to relax and do the things THEY want to do too. I will never push them into doing anything at the expense of living. Sure, I'll nudge them a bit to keep them working hard, sure, I'll push them into doing what's necessary to be able to achieve what they want to in life. However, you get one life. Who wants to run themselves into the ground until they retire? What then? Get around to all those things you always wanted to do? Oh wait, that's right, you're old now. If you're someone that thrives on that "competitive global workforce" and that IS what you want to do and enjoy doing, playing the game, climbing ladders, etc. (there are plenty of people like that) then cool. I'd just never try to steer my kids that way. Success? Yes, but not at the expense of enjoying life too.
Well amd's lineup at the moment would do you just fine since you don't game anymore.That was back when I had Steve and Kyle change my name for me on this forum as I was using my real name. I used to enjoy PC gaming before I settled for just console gaming as it is more casual which thus allows me to pick up the controller and play here and there. Then I just got too busy to even do that and my Xbox is collecting dust. To be fair, AMD didn't really give me much of an incentive to cheer for them until recently. Even then, their GPU's are nothing to cheer about.
That was back when I had Steve and Kyle change my name for me on this forum as I was using my real name. I used to enjoy PC gaming before I settled for just console gaming as it is more casual which thus allows me to pick up the controller and play here and there. Then I just got too busy to even do that and my Xbox is collecting dust. To be fair, AMD didn't really give me much of an incentive to cheer for them until recently. Even then, their GPU's are nothing to cheer about.
I know what you mean. My main hobby takes most of what would be gaming time. I squeeze that in usually just before I go to sleep, which means that it's usually on the Wii U or N3DS. (and soon to be Switch) I still REALLY love PC gaming, and do manage to play at least once a week for a few hours, but definitely not like I used to. My kids do more than I do, but even they have other things going on as well. My main point is that they COULD manage a couple of hours a day if they chose to use that time for gaming. (I'd say they probably game for 2-3 hours maybe 3-4 days out of the week in reality)
I'll force in game time if it's something I REALLY want to play though. I've been managing to squeeze in a couple of hours here and there to play Nier for example. For something like Doom, I just play it until I'm done, then get back to my other hobbies and such. I'll still pull a full weekend of gaming here and there, just not as often as I used to.
That is the issue as I don't have time for any hobbies. I'll have to figure something out though as I am quickly burning out to the point where I am starting to feel apathetic about everything. I am considering relocating into rural Eastern Kentucky right now and getting away from it all.