CPU idling at 60C

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medeyer

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I've recently replaced my CPU cooler from an H60 (massive air bubble) to an NH-L9x65. The temps with the H60 were sitting over 70C at idle, so the new heatsink was pretty much mandatory. However, my 4670k is idling around 60C at stock settings. This leads me to believe there's a problem with the CPU, be it from overheating previously or the dodgey TIM that was notorious with Haswell. However, I'm open to other possible fixes before considering a delid or purchasing a new CPU & mobo.
 
And whats the load temps? If it idles around 60C with stock settings its more likely a cooler that isn't seated correctly.
 
Shintai said:
And whats the load temps? If it idles around 60C with stock settings its more likely a cooler that isn't seated correctly.
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95c. I don't think it's seated incorrectly since these noctua heatsinks are pretty up and down. I'll reseat it in the morning when I get home from work to double check.
 
Noctua mounting hardware is pretty hard to screw up, to be honest. I'd suspect you're in for a de-lid.

That said, what are you using to monitor temps? Some software can give markedly different results to others.
 
Reseat, check TIM, be sure the fan is working and spinning up if PWM etc etc.

A de-lid would probably help. How long has this been going on? Did it happen over night or creeping up over time?

If nothing else works and you are SURE those are actual temps, try OCing a bit, that should make you hit the thermal limiter and the clocks should go down or the system will reboot, if it does you know without a doubt those are real temps and not just iffy software/sensor. At that point you might want to contact Intel first, they might get you a replacement. If not, then might be time to look at de-lidding.
 
It's kind of a sad state of affairs to end up in, isn't it? That we're getting people with temp problems making threads and our actual, honest-to-god advice is "Try the obvious, but consider doing this extremely-niche and potentially dangerous modification to your CPU, there's a good chance that's the problem"

Intel really needs to step up their game on TIM and IHS fitment.
 
GlacierNine said:
Noctua mounting hardware is pretty hard to screw up, to be honest. I'd suspect you're in for a de-lid.

That said, what are you using to monitor temps? Some software can give markedly different results to others.
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I use RealTemp mainly. Just downloaded Core Temp 1.7 to double check. They're both pretty much on par.

BlueFireIce said:
Reseat, check TIM, be sure the fan is working and spinning up if PWM etc etc.

A de-lid would probably help. How long has this been going on? Did it happen over night or creeping up over time?

If nothing else works and you are SURE those are actual temps, try OCing a bit, that should make you hit the thermal limiter and the clocks should go down or the system will reboot, if it does you know without a doubt those are real temps and not just iffy software/sensor. At that point you might want to contact Intel first, they might get you a replacement. If not, then might be time to look at de-lidding.
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I'll be reseating it in the morning using NT-H1 again. The fan is working properly; can hear it ramping up in prime95.

The temps were definitely above average when I first got it, though not as bad as they are now. Didn't think too much of it since it was the middle of summer when I did my build and already had knowledge of the hit and miss issues regarding Haswell. They went up over time, but with the H60 failing and probably letting the CPU run too hot, it prolly contributed to the degradation.

I'll try a mild OC and see how it goes. The CPU was purchased over three years ago, so the warranty has expired.
 
GlacierNine said:
It's kind of a sad state of affairs to end up in, isn't it? That we're getting people with temp problems making threads and our actual, honest-to-god advice is "Try the obvious, but consider doing this extremely-niche and potentially dangerous modification to your CPU, there's a good chance that's the problem"

Intel really needs to step up their game on TIM and IHS fitment.
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Defects happen with any product, Intel is actually very good with this as the amount of issues like this in a non OCed system are very rare, Intel is also very good with handling returns.

medeyer said:
I use RealTemp mainly. Just downloaded Core Temp 1.7 to double check. They're both pretty much on par.



I'll be reseating it in the morning using NT-H1 again. The fan is working properly; can hear it ramping up in prime95.

The temps were definitely above average when I first got it, though not as bad as they are now. Didn't think too much of it since it was the middle of summer when I did my build and already had knowledge of the hit and miss issues regarding Haswell. They went up over time, but with the H60 failing and probably letting the CPU run too hot, it prolly contributed to the degradation.

I'll try a mild OC and see how it goes. The CPU was purchased over three years ago, so the warranty has expired.
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You said "reseating", am I to assume it was de-lidded already? If that is the case I would assuming something went wrong with the re-lid, did you use a tool for it and did you glue the lid in place?

If you did not already de-lid, contact Intel, they are often very good with things like this, warranty or not, see what they have to say, might not get anything or you might get a new CPU out of it, worth a try. As if this has not been de-lidded, its a genuine defect.
 
Are you sure the cpu is actually idling? I would check that if you havent, Just because you arent doing anything doesnt mean the cpu isnt.

could easily be a rogue app.
 
Good morning all. I reseated the heat sink a little while ago and I'm still getting similar idle temps. Prime had two cores throttling out after a few minutes. Didn't even hit the 10 minute mark.

Shadohh said:
Are you sure the cpu is actually idling? I would check that if you havent, Just because you arent doing anything doesnt mean the cpu isnt.

could easily be a rogue app.
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Nope. No background programs running. Task manager showed next to no CPU usage. Even disabled Avast for a test.

BlueFireIce said:
You said "reseating", am I to assume it was de-lidded already? If that is the case I would assuming something went wrong with the re-lid, did you use a tool for it and did you glue the lid in place?

If you did not already de-lid, contact Intel, they are often very good with things like this, warranty or not, see what they have to say, might not get anything or you might get a new CPU out of it, worth a try. As if this has not been de-lidded, its a genuine defect.
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No, I haven't done the de-lid yet. I will try and contact Intel in the meantime, but going by the FPO, the warranty expired last year. Still, can't hurt to ask. I'm busy with work over the next several days (gotta love those public holiday penalty rates), so no real time to mess around with it and it should be enough time for Intel to respond.
 
medeyer said:
Good morning all. I reseated the heat sink a little while ago and I'm still getting similar idle temps. Prime had two cores throttling out after a few minutes. Didn't even hit the 10 minute mark.



Nope. No background programs running. Task manager showed next to no CPU usage. Even disabled Avast for a test.



No, I haven't done the de-lid yet. I will try and contact Intel in the meantime, but going by the FPO, the warranty expired last year. Still, can't hurt to ask. I'm busy with work over the next several days (gotta love those public holiday penalty rates), so no real time to mess around with it and it should be enough time for Intel to respond.
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I would hold off, I have had very little dealings with Intel (not many issues), however the people I know who have, and one being well out of warranty, were all taken care of. The one out of warranty out of no where stopped being stable at stock voltages and the rig was not OCed, I went over and messed with it and upping the voltage made it stable again, I questioned how long it would last so he called Intel, they took the chip, tested it, found it to be a problem and shipped him a new one, if I remember right he actually got an i7 back when he only had an i5. They might say to bad, but it's worth a try before you go modding it.
 
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