Ryzen Owners Thread

Oh yeah, you can absolutely mount in the normal way! The Riser cable that comes with the TT case is legitimately terrible and you're right to be cautious of it!

However! A lot of people including myself have had great luck with this riser cable:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NH0GW7Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

just make sure you don't make too tight of a bend and you'll likely be pretty good. If you don't want to deal with the riser headache, you can absolutely restructure the case to use a normal mounting method.

If it didn't look so damned awesome that's what I would've done, I do miss having the ability to easily add equipment in, but that's about it.

Just let me know if you have any other questions, thanks for the props guys!
 
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Never did post the final pics of the finished build in this thread. Here they are. The pics still don't do justice to this case, though. IRL it is absolutely beautiful. Damn work of art, really.

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ChristmasGT said:
Oh yeah, you can absolutely mount in the normal way! The Riser cable that comes with the TT case is legitimately terrible and you're right to be cautious of it!

However! A lot of people including myself have had great luck with this riser cable:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NH0GW7Z/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

just make sure you don't make too tight of a bend and you'll likely be pretty good. If you don't want to deal with the riser headache, you can absolutely restructure the case to use a normal mounting method.

If it didn't look so damned awesome that's what I would've done, I do miss having the ability to easily add equipment in, but that's about it.

Just let me know if you have any other questions, thanks for the props guys!
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So if I don't ant to use the riser style setup, the motherboard tray has slots needed for the expansion card brackets to slip into, as well as a method to screw them down?
 
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well I finally decided and pulled the trigger on a R7-1700, Asus Crosshair VI Hero, and some Corsair Platinum DDR4 3000.

gonna be replacing my FX-8320 workstation. Really wanted to get the Asrock Fatality Professional x370, but its been outta stock for the past 2 weeks, and I found the crosshair for a good price. About time this rig sees an update.
 
Yup! The bracket just re-positions to a normal style setup. No muss no fuss!

Ran it that way for a week while I was diagnosing the factory riser issue.
 
ChristmasGT said:
Yup! The bracket just re-positions to a normal style setup. No muss no fuss!

Ran it that way for a week while I was diagnosing the factory riser issue.
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Thank you. :) I see on the NewEgg pic now that it does have the expansion bracket slots on the tray as well.

Last 2 Qs (I think, initially I only had one haha). I am pretty sure this is the only way to go about it but, since you said the bracket re-positions... The big flat side that the risers slot into (or whatever), I presume that gets rotated to where it sits behind (underneath) the motherboard? NewEgg lacks zoom on these (I'm looking at the P3 Snow edition) for whatever reason, so in their laid-out pieces image I can't quite see the details to discern it myself :p

And then, the PSU hoops, looks like there are two that are different bends completely... is that to accommodate being able to mount it either: with its fan facing up/down, or mounted with it facing away from the motherboard tray?
 
I've just received my motherboard (ASUS Crosshair VI), memory (G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB F4-3200C14D-16GFX). I'm now waiting for my 1800X and an additional motherboard (Gigabyte Gaming K7 in case the ASUS doesn't work for me). The CPU should be here on Monday.

It's been a while since I've built anything but an Intel setup so this will be a nice change!
 
Finally got my new 1700, C6H, and f4-3200c14d-16gtzkw up an running. I'm disappointed I can't get 3200 out of the ram at this time like many have...stuck a 2933. IBT (10 passes at max) indicates that my pstate 0 overclock is humming along fine at 3825 with an offset voltage of +0.16. This tops out the vcore at 1.356 and during IBT it usually held right at 1.275. I'll keep pushing the multiplier another .25 to see where my CPU tops out at with a 1.356 voltage. I like the pstate 0 OC method, as it's was nice to see cores drop as low as 1500 during idle. Idle temps are 26C and max during ITB was 59C...so my system stayed nice and quiet as well since my fans don't become noticeable until my CPU reaches 61C. Time to update my sig to an AMD build for first time in a long time.
 
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mdaniel said:
Finally got my new 1700, C6H, and f4-3200c14d-16gtzkw up an running. I'm disappointed I can't get 3200 out of the ram at this time like many have...stuck a 2933. IBT (10 passes at max) indicates that my pstate 0 overclock is humming along fine at 3825 with an offset voltage of +0.16. This tops out the vcore at 1.356 and during IBT it usually held right at 1.275. I'll keep pushing the multiplier another .25 to see where my CPU tops out at with a 1.356 voltage. I like the pstate 0 OC method, as it's was nice to see cores drop as low as 1500 during idle. Idle temps are in the low 30s and max during ITB was 59C...so my system stayed nice and quiet as well since my fans don't become noticeable until my CPU reaches 61C. Time to update my sig to an AMD build for first time in a long time.
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You probably did but just incase; did you flash that C6H bios?
 
mdaniel said:
Finally got my new 1700, C6H, and f4-3200c14d-16gtzkw up an running. I'm disappointed I can't get 3200 out of the ram at this time like many have...stuck a 2933. IBT (10 passes at max) indicates that my pstate 0 overclock is humming along fine at 3825 with an offset voltage of +0.16. This tops out the vcore at 1.356 and during IBT it usually held right at 1.275. I'll keep pushing the multiplier another .25 to see where my CPU tops out at with a 1.356 voltage. I like the pstate 0 OC method, as it's was nice to see cores drop as low as 1500 during idle. Idle temps are 26C and max during ITB was 59C...so my system stayed nice and quiet as well since my fans don't become noticeable until my CPU reaches 61C. Time to update my sig to an AMD build for first time in a long time.
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Have you checked this google doc posted on another forum ram OC with details for CH6 hero
 
So... I went out and got the mail today. lol I have to say, much to my surprise I had two very bulky envelopes in it... o_0
First one was from Canada, eh. TheLAWNoob, take off you hoser! lol
The 3D Printed AM4 bracket for the round Asetek-made (Corsair, Thermaltake, etc) AIO watercoolers came! :D Looks very nice and the 'gear' teeth match up perfectly to the original AM3 bracket. Your engineering is spot on, too, as I gave it a quick flex-test just using my fingers and I actually think that your printed one flexes a little less than the metal one! lol

Second envelope I wasn't quite sure what it had... It was from a yellow padded one from a "CJ Huang" in California, which I hadn't bought anything that I expected to arrive, so I cut it open. Out slid a box, with a bit of a rattle to it. Didn't recognize any of the numbers on the box's sticker *shrug* Opened the box, plastic bag in it and a sticker "AM4"! lmao It was the Corsair AM4 adapter I had placed the order for just 6 days ago when TheLAWNoob said his order was being processed. With thousands of people having ordered their's from just Corsair, nevermind all of the other orders by users from various other companies who also used Asetek's coolers, I honestly didn't expect that mine would get processed until at least the end of the month!

Guess in the end I was wrong, as I said I bet the printed one would come before my Corsair order.
However, I looked at Thermaltake's page and looks like they finally decided to offer it. When that went available I don't know, since I stopped checking after I placed the order for the Corsair. Nevertheless, am displeased with Tt's tactic and will have to update my post calling them out on their BS.
Here are the order pages for AM4 though...
Corsair's AM4 adapter kit for circular AIO pumps can be found HERE for $4.99. Or you can get it FREE if you use this Promo/Coupon code: CORSAIRAM4BR (NOTE: you must create an account first to apply codes, otherwise it will say it's not a valid code!)
Thermaltake's AM4 adapter kit for the same style pumps is HERE for $6.99. Do NOT pass GO. Do NOT collect any free promo code. Claims to "only" work on Water3.0 kits (a BS claim I'm set to disprove shortly). Lame :(
NZXT's AM4 adapter for Kraken AIO coolers, same pump is HERE for Free.... with proof of purchase of Kraken and Motherboard, womp-womp. lol At least they're not pulling a Tt. (I assume like a number of things, the UPC on the original box will qualify as PoP, otherwise the receipt/order invoice, which if you bought it online might still be in your email if you're a packrat like me.)
 
AIO AM4 bracket came in today, so after cleaning off the heatsink and the cpu, fired it up and found the stable upper end of my 1700 after a couple hours. 3.966 GHz @ 1.392V. Memory is still stuck at 2400, but tightened it up to 12-12-12-30.
http://valid.x86.fr/t3knl6
 
jbc029 said:
AIO AM4 bracket came in today, so after cleaning off the heatsink and the cpu, fired it up and found the stable upper end of my 1700 after a couple hours. 3.966 GHz @ 1.392V. Memory is still stuck at 2400, but tightened it up to 12-12-12-30.
http://valid.x86.fr/t3knl6
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What are you using to find stability. I'm at 3.95ghz 1.5 hours stable prime95 (the ryzen updated one)

Side note: that R5 1600 makes me wish I waited a little bit. Saved $100. Man it's a great price for performance
 
2wiced said:
What are you using to find stability. I'm at 3.95ghz 1.5 hours stable prime95 (the ryzen updated one)

Side note: that R5 1600 makes me wish I waited a little bit. Saved $100. Man it's a great price for performance
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I don't know why you don't think the 1700 isn't a great price for performance. I think it's the best of them all, including the 1700X and 1800X as it overclocks to just as high as they do.

Check out Joker Productions video on this:

 
ThaWatcher said:
I don't know why you don't think the 1700 isn't a great price for performance. I think it's the best of them all, including the 1700X and 1800X as it overclocks to just as high as they do.

Check out Joker Productions video on this:

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Looking over reviews the 6 core is very close in performance to the 8 core, After overclocking.

I'm happy with my 1700 but could have saved $, all I'm saying.

Best bang for buck is a b350 + r5 1600 @ 3.8-4ghz.
 
Same here but we were early adopters so we're "stuck" with an 8c CPU now and having spent another $70.
 
I've installed my new Ryzen setup last night (had to find a reason to stop playing Zelda BotW for a few hours! ;)) and everything went smoothly. No overclocking yet but everything is working as it should with the latest non beta BIOS revision (1002).

I did a lazy installation (removed all intel related drivers and old motherboard utilities and drivers, switched components, restarted windows and reinstalled AMD drivers and new motherboard utilities and drivers) so I'll probably have to redo things properly at a later time.
 
2wiced said:
Looking over reviews the 6 core is very close in performance to the 8 core, After overclocking.

I'm happy with my 1700 but could have saved $, all I'm saying.

Best bang for buck is a b350 + r5 1600 @ 3.8-4ghz.
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Depends. If you're doing encoding & content creation, the extra 2 cores are nice. Very happy with my 8c Ryzen, though if I had to do it again, I'd probably buy the 1700 instead of the 1700X. Since they all OC about the same anyway... could have saved $70.
 
I looked at the R5-1600x/1600 a bit. Well I knew they were coming out. They are certainly a good deal if the gamers who also do productivity stuff. I went with the extra cores/threads in the R7-1700. My FX system was clearly showing its age, esp since I often found myself using my 6700k gaming rig to render on instead of my dedicated work pc. So it will be nice to retire the old space heater.

my ram showed up today. 16gb of Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3000mhz. Not sure if these sticks are any good with Ryzen, I suppose I will find out here shortly. Crosshair 6 should be here tomorrow.
 
2wiced said:
What are you using to find stability. I'm at 3.95ghz 1.5 hours stable prime95 (the ryzen updated one)

Side note: that R5 1600 makes me wish I waited a little bit. Saved $100. Man it's a great price for performance
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Concurrent executions of 16 thread prime95, CPU-Z stress test, handbrake encode of 4k HQ and an instance of heaven benchmark looping to keep my video card power draw up to make sure that my PS can handle the load. AIO temp settled at 66C, but I had to enable the balanced profile. Quiet profile couldn't keep it cool enough (basically fans had to ramp up to around 75% on the radiator. Quiet tops out at 50%)
 
jbc029 said:
Concurrent executions of 16 thread prime95, CPU-Z stress test, handbrake encode of 4k HQ and an instance of heaven benchmark looping to keep my video card power draw up to make sure that my PS can handle the load. AIO temp settled at 66C, but I had to enable the balanced profile. Quiet profile couldn't keep it cool enough (basically fans had to ramp up to around 75% on the radiator. Quiet tops out at 50%)
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Which AIO are you running? Just curious.

The bracket for my NZXT x62 Kraken (280mm rad) arrives today and I'm curious how it'll hold up to my 1800x @ 4ghz.

I already have 2 140mm fans in the front, I'm considering putting the thing in push/pull if I can finagle it in my case.
 
Magic Hate Ball said:
Which AIO are you running? Just curious.

The bracket for my NZXT x62 Kraken (280mm rad) arrives today and I'm curious how it'll hold up to my 1800x @ 4ghz.

I already have 2 140mm fans in the front, I'm considering putting the thing in push/pull if I can finagle it in my case.
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Corsair H100i, I think. I'll have to check when I get home.
 
Hi, friends!

I'm loving my new R7-1700. It's sporting EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3200 (running at 2933 CL16) on the Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4. Wraith Spire is pretty with its RGB glow doing its thing.

Question - does anyone have real info about safe temperatures for these things? I can get 3500mhz all-core OC without touching the voltage, and it's plenty stable, with a 72c temp under Prime95 Small FFT. It goes to 3.7 quite easily with 1.3v but then the temps will go all the way to 90c under Prime95. I can find no official info on temperature headroom for these things. All I know is that at 90c it still wasn't throttling back the clocks (and it didn't crash, though I stopped the test immediately when it went over 89c).

Thoughts? Anecdotes even? I really want to keep using the Spire, but I also want a decent OC out of it.


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Idle temps hover around 36-40c, depending on how warm my room is. If I run Cinebench repeatedly I can get the CPU to hit 70c at stock clocks. From what I understand, this is within the normal range for these processors.

Also, I was coming from a FX-8350, so this is a very substantial upgrade. Double the memory speed, SATA boot drive replaced with a NVMe M.2, and over twice as much CPU performance.
 
Morphish said:
Hi, friends!

I'm loving my new R7-1700. It's sporting EVGA SuperSC DDR4-3200 (running at 2933 CL16) on the Asrock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4. Wraith Spire is pretty with its RGB glow doing its thing.

Question - does anyone have real info about safe temperatures for these things? I can get 3500mhz all-core OC without touching the voltage, and it's plenty stable, with a 72c temp under Prime95 Small FFT. It goes to 3.7 quite easily with 1.3v but then the temps will go all the way to 90c under Prime95. I can find no official info on temperature headroom for these things. All I know is that at 90c it still wasn't throttling back the clocks (and it didn't crash, though I stopped the test immediately when it went over 89c).

Thoughts? Anecdotes even? I really want to keep using the Spire, but I also want a decent OC out of it.
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Those temps are pretty high, you should be under 75c for a safe temp, 95c is throttle temp on Ryzen, make sure your using the newest Ryzen Master utility to measure temps.
Newer versions of prime w/avx will cause extreme heat, try using Handbrake w/ Heaven and Blender together if you want a real stability test.
You might also look at getting better cooling if you want 3.8+ clocks.
 
CAD4466HK said:
Those temps are pretty high, you should be under 75c for a safe temp, 95c is throttle temp on Ryzen, make sure your using the newest Ryzen Master utility to measure temps.
Newer versions of prime w/avx will cause extreme heat, try using Handbrake w/ Heaven and Blender together if you want a real stability test.
You might also look at getting better cooling if you want 3.8+ clocks.
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I've been using HWInfo for temps, and it always agrees with Ryzen Master (old and new - the 1700 doesn't have the 20c temperature offset). So 75c and under is safe, 95c is definitely un-safe. Between 75 and 95 is.... bad? Will it degrade the CPU if I run it up there in that zone?

One reason why I ask is that the MB's default fan profiles don't even have it hit 100% speed until the chip reaches 85c. I now use a manual curve which reaches 100% speed at only 65c. I think anyone setting it at stock and running a render or transcode load would probably find their chip getting over 80c.

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Prime95 Small FFT does give the highest possible temps. I have Aida64 Stability Test running right now - 66c at stock speeds. The Wraith is more than up to the job, of course, since it can handle the P95 workload. However - Aida64 doesn't get the CPU as hot as Cinebench does, which is a real (non-synthetic) load. P95 is the only thing I know that will confirm that my OC is totally 100% within the thermal limits of the cooler.
 
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It depends on what you are going to use your computer for. If you are using it 24/7 with full load the 90C is not a good idea. You can try and make the cpu fan run at 100% all the time see if that would curve some of the problems, but in reality your chip might just not like the frequency and require a lot more then a good air cooler. I'm not sure what is the wisest option. What you could do is wait for another stepping sell your old cpu and start overclocking the one which does reach your target frequency, for your afore mentioned problem it can be doubtful that you will reach your frequency on water.
 
Anyone using Ryzen with Linux of some flavor for daily driving? I'm really considering switching and keeping a Windows 10 install on the side for gaming only.
 
If I manage to win the giveaway here I would put SteamOS on that Ryzen system to play around with. I have enough Steam games that have been recompiled for SteamOS that I think it would be worth my while to have one.

Should I not win the giveaway (with my luck, this is almost a guaranteed outcome) I do intend to build a Ryzen system (once the bugs are worked out) as a dedicated Linux workstation. My current Linux system is about six years old and is using a Pentium single core. :sour:
 
Morphish said:
I've been using HWInfo for temps, and it always agrees with Ryzen Master (old and new - the 1700 doesn't have the 20c temperature offset). So 75c and under is safe, 95c is definitely un-safe. Between 75 and 95 is.... bad? Will it degrade the CPU if I run it up there in that zone?

One reason why I ask is that the MB's default fan profiles don't even have it hit 100% speed until the chip reaches 85c. I now use a manual curve which reaches 100% speed at only 65c. I think anyone setting it at stock and running a render or transcode load would probably find their chip getting over 80c.

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Prime95 Small FFT does give the highest possible temps. I have Aida64 Stability Test running right now - 66c at stock speeds. The Wraith is more than up to the job, of course, since it can handle the P95 workload. However - Aida64 doesn't get the CPU as hot as Cinebench does, which is a real (non-synthetic) load. P95 is the only thing I know that will confirm that my OC is totally 100% within the thermal limits of the cooler.
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As Pieter3dnow said, you don't want to run 85c-90c long term, I would say the high 70's would be ok, I would get a better cooler than the stock HSF.
You can find good air coolers from anywhere from $40-$70+, or AIO's starting at $60 and up for AM4.
Even Kyle said the stock HSF's are not cutting it at high clocks, where as your HSF isn't doing all that good even at stock.

Prime is good for stressing your CPU and memory, but it is not a realistic workload.
Depending on what you plan to use your rig for, i.e. gaming, encoding, streaming, etc..I would use a few of the utilities that I mentioned in my previous reply to you, all at the same time, for a complete system wide stability test. But If I was you, I would invest in better cooling first, as your chip seems to run pretty hot. ;)
 
Thanks for the super helpful replies, friends.

Asrock released a new BIOS for my MB this morning (2.1). It seems to have lowered temperatures across the board by around 4-5c. It also made 3.6ghz stable at stock voltages. Prime95 Small FFT is now levels out at 74c. Blend is 69c. Gaming looks like 60c.

I think we have a winner. I'll do a few hours of stability tests this weekend using the combo of programs suggested.

BIOS updates.... Who knew?
 
Morphish said:
Thanks for the super helpful replies, friends.

Asrock released a new BIOS for my MB this morning (2.1). It seems to have lowered temperatures across the board by around 4-5c. It also made 3.6ghz stable at stock voltages. Prime95 Small FFT is now levels out at 74c. Blend is 69c. Gaming looks like 60c.

I think we have a winner. I'll do a few hours of stability tests this weekend using the combo of programs suggested.

BIOS updates.... Who knew?
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Those temps are a lot more sane IMHO, if 3.6 is all your aiming for then you might be ok with the Spire.
 
Gonna build a new rig with the Ryzen 1600X, making it my second Ryzen machine. Don't really have any need for another computer, but what the hell.


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All the parts for a new Ryzen rig: $1,200.

Emailing Cryorig for the AM4 mount needed for the cooler and receiving this response: "we are still working on the AM4 upgrade kits": Priceless.
 
cybereality said:
Gonna build a new rig with the Ryzen 1600X, making it my second Ryzen machine. Don't really have any need for another computer, but what the hell.


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All the parts for a new Ryzen rig: $1,200.

Emailing Cryorig for the AM4 mount needed for the cooler and receiving this response: "we are still working on the AM4 upgrade kits": Priceless.
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Oh disposable income... how nice it must be! LOL
Is the significant other in your life a Ryzen 7 1800X, or just a really awesome human? :p
 
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