Microsoft finally reveals what data Windows 10 collects from your PC

heatlesssun said:
Hasn't Windows Update been pulling this kind of data forever though? And you can go to Steam's hardware survey and get the gist of this for free. What would be far more valuable to Microsoft is knowing issues with a driver, they are major source of critical bugs. I think part of the problem here is that some have turned the issue into nothing but rampant paranoia about the unlikely and not so practical and glossing over obvious benefits in knowing "Hey, this nVidia is having issues with Office."
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Yes windows update has been doing it and it pisses a lot of people off as well. I think they are adding a opt out for driver updates though at last.

As for steam... sure that applies to games played on steam. If I don't want steam having that info I don't buy from steam, not many developers that don't sell their software direct.

As for driver issues... right cause MS is constantly updating Closed source Nvidia drivers ? Issues with Nvidia hardware drivers are sorted by Nvidia not MS.

Its not paranoia when you know for a fact something is happening. Yes MS sells install base data. That isn't a secret or something.
 
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Why is Microsoft being compared to Google?

I'm a windows 7 user that also uses an android phone. I use Dolphin with adblock on the phone, ublock origin in chronic on my desktop, I disable all tracking by Google, I don't use social media, etc. etc. I never see appropriate targeted ads because there is no data for it. Google has my app list until I remove the app, because I don't purchase anything. I can't remove old phones from my Google account. That's the only hole I've found so far.

Windows 10 doesn't provide any of these features. That's why people react differently between the two companies. I'm failing to see where the confusion is here.

Further, regarding google and data management, they rarely if ever sell data. Data is their life blood. They collect data, and they sell services that use the data. They do NOT sell the data directly. If they did, they would be far less profitable. You could reverse engineer it to a point, but it'd be rather costly. See, what they do is sell you the idea that they will target ads to people that fit demographics you want. You could then place your own tracking in those ads and, if the ad results in a sale, combine the seller information with the demographic you bought. There's an error margin there, and it's expensive.

If you want the raw data yourself, it's cheaper and more effective to implant your own tracking, usually embedded in images. This is why I use advanced filters in my block lists.
 
heatlesssun said:
And again, this isn't specific to Windows 10, the user of any device that connects to these services REGARDLESS of the OS is subject the same terms. This is the kind of paranoia I'm talking about because these are standard TOS for any 3rd party cloud and it's got zero to do with the local OS. Hell, you could connect Windows 10 to iCloud and the situation would be the same with Apple. Or DropBox or GDrive.
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That's one hell of a baseless claim! Please share (link) with us where YOU read in Microsoft's language (TOS and or Privacy Statement) that the local O.S (Windows 10) is EXCLUDED and or NON-APPLICABLE to the "Reasons We Share Personal Data" part of the Privacy Statement. If you can produce this, you win this debate and I will humbly apologize for overreacting and being misinformed!

As an added bonus, I will upload ANY quote in my signature that you choose word for word regardless of what is says (as long as it's not against the H rules) for 1 month!
 
Iceshot said:
That's one hell of a baseless claim!
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It's in the link you provided in the second paragraph titled Personal Data We Collect

Personal Data We Collect

Microsoft collects data to operate effectively and provide you the best experiences with our products. You provide some of this data directly, such as when you create a Microsoft account, submit a search query to Bing, speak a voice command to Cortana, upload a document to OneDrive, purchase an MSDN subscription, sign up for Office 365, or contact us for support.
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NOTHING in this list is tied to Windows 10 or even Windows. All of them can be done on ANY OS with the exception of Cortana voice which does work on Android. https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/
 
MelonSplitter said:
So, if I download a file (movie) from a torrent site say, 5 or 6 times a month, what are my chances that Microsoft will notify the authorities? Theoretically speaking
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with the data being collected and depending on the application you use to watch the content (less file explorer is counted as a data collection point for owned files in which case were all screwed)

it is a likely possibility that IF the RIAA or the MPAA gets a court order they can force microsoft to hand over all telemetry matching a said torrent download.

we know that riaa and mpaa monitors torrents so lets say IllegalMovie.tor has got the MPAA all worked up. and they get the court order to force microsoft to provide access to all telemetry data for machines that have the matching IllegalMovie.tor in their data repositories.

then depending again on the applications used the MPAA would have a record of the date and the time the file was downloaded. they would also have access to the windows user account and how many times the file was watched, and if it was copied to another device and almost forgot to mention a unique identifier that corresponds to each and every machine.

all this data can be extrapolated from the data that windows 10 collects. even win 7 and 8 with the back ported telemetry patches is not safe from this data extrapolation.

your only saving grace maybe, that the burden of proof of proving that IllegalMovie.tor was actually IllegalMovie.tor and not some version bigbuckbunny.tor just renamed. but you better hope you have a good lawyer and file explorer is not logging file names and operations to make that argument stand up.
 
DPI said:
Telemetry needs an opt-out.
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heatlesssun said:
Fair enough. But understand that if you want to shut down EVERY single bit of info that goes to Microsoft then that means shutting down Windows Update and Windows Defender.
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Works out perfectly then.

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heatlesssun said:
It's in the link you provided in the second paragraph titled Personal Data We Collect




NOTHING in this list is tied to Windows 10 or even Windows. All of them can be done on ANY OS with the exception of Cortana voice which does work on Android. https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/
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WRONG. Fourth sentence heading up the Privacy Statement...

"This statement applies to the Microsoft products listed below, as well as other Microsoft products that display this statement. References to Microsoft products in this statement include Microsoft services, websites, apps, software and devices."

Windows is most definitely listed, and having read the entire damn statement word for word I can confidently proclaim the Windows section (nor any other section of the Privacy agreement) contain ANY exclusions for local O.S. where it pertains to the "Reasons We Share Personal Data" section. Care to try again?
 
DPI said:
Works out perfectly then.

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But that stuff has long been there, in the great Windows 7 and 8.x, and no one complained about it, not anywhere to the extent they have 10. And the opt out is there with 3rd party tools. And that doesn't mean I'm saying it shouldn't be in the box. It's just that some going ape shit over this don't understand the subject well as they think they do.
 
Iceshot said:
WRONG. Fourth sentence heading up the Privacy Statement...

"This statement applies to the Microsoft products listed below, as well as other Microsoft products that display this statement. References to Microsoft products in this statement include Microsoft services, websites, apps, software and devices."

Windows is most definitely listed, and having read the entire damn statement word for word I can confidently proclaim the Windows section (nor any other section of the Privacy agreement) contain ANY exclusions for local O.S. where it pertains to the "Reasons We Share Personal Data" section. Care to try again?
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Seriously, you're trying to say that if someone is using OneDrive or Office 365 on the web that somehow the policies that they say apply to OneDrive or Office 365 don't apply if they are using Linux? Holy fuck man.
 
If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about. But if you're a criminal that's a different story. Or God forebid you're a terrorist then know that we're coming for you and we're going to put you away for a damn long time.
 
heatlesssun said:
Seriously, you're trying to say that if someone is using OneDrive or Office 365 on the web that somehow the policies that they say apply to OneDrive or Office 365 don't apply if they are using Linux? Holy fuck man.
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Yet again, another Fallacy argument. TRY to use some forward thought and critical thinking! Your not looking at this like an attorney. No question Microsoft's legal department poured over every line and likewise had a big hand in writing it. "This statement applies to the Microsoft products listed below, as well as other Microsoft products that display this statement." Just because Windows O.S. is NOT "specifically" sighted as a example in the "Personal Data We Collect" section DOES NOT mean the "Reasons We Share Personal Data" section is non-applicable to Windows 10 O.S.! Unless there is a specific clause / exemption pertaining the local O.S. (ie Windows 10) then the kind of data harvesting I've quoted numerous times applies to the O.S.

Show the Privacy Agreement to a attorney who understands service agreements and contract law. Within the context of Windows 10 O.S. I've shown this Privacy Agreement to several lawyers in 3 states, including the head of the law firm who use to represent Black & Decker Corporation exclusively. Every response I was given claimed (warned) agreeing to this in effect, ended any semblance of privacy and all your data was at risk for collection (just like the Privacy Agreement says in semi-plain English).
 
Iceshot said:
Yet again, another Fallacy argument. TRY to use some forward thought and critical thinking! Your not looking at this like an attorney. No question Microsoft's legal department poured over every line and likewise had a big hand in writing it. "This statement applies to the Microsoft products listed below, as well as other Microsoft products that display this statement." Just because Windows O.S. is NOT "specifically" sighted as a example in the "Personal Data We Collect" section DOES NOT mean the "Reasons We Share Personal Data" section is non-applicable to Windows 10 O.S.! Unless there is a specific clause / exemption pertaining the local O.S. (ie Windows 10) then the kind of data harvesting I've quoted numerous times applies to the O.S.

Show the Privacy Agreement to a attorney who understands service agreements and contract law. Within the context of Windows 10 O.S. I've shown this Privacy Agreement to several lawyers in 3 states, including the head of the law firm who use to represent Black & Decker Corporation exclusively. Every response I was given claimed (warned) agreeing to this in effect, ended any semblance of privacy and all your data was at risk for collection (just like the Privacy Agreement says in semi-plain English).
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Unless Microsoft is uploading the contents of hard drives secretly then no, the OneDrive policy couldn't "just apply" to Windows 10 because they wouldn't have the data to give authorities in the first place. But if you're using OneDrive and storing data there the policy would apply even if you were using an abacus as your client. Didn't those lawyers tell you that as well?
 
trparky said:
If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about. But if you're a criminal that's a different story. Or God forebid you're a terrorist then know that we're coming for you and we're going to put you away for a damn long time.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Socialist.

Once we have all given up on privacy it gets really hard to complain later should it be abused. (and it will be)
 
ChadD said:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Socialist.

Once we have all given up on privacy it gets really hard to complain later should it be abused. (and it will be)
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we have and already lost all of our privacy.

we are now in the extract all you can phase from the consumer.

and when thats not good enough it will be force the consumer to give all that they can.
 
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ChadD said:
Once we have all given up on privacy it gets really hard to complain later should it be abused. (and it will be)
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Then they came for my driver metadata. Checked to see if the update worked, and OMG, got my CPU model! I mean, really. Folks clamoring on this issue must have be asleep for a decade and somehow forgot that half the people on the planet now carry tracking devices. Sorry, some of the outrage here is CLEARLY manufactured.
 
heatlesssun said:
Unless Microsoft is uploading the contents of hard drives secretly then no, the OneDrive policy couldn't "just apply" to Windows 10 because they wouldn't have the data to give authorities in the first place. But if you're using OneDrive and storing data there the policy would apply even if you were using an abacus as your client. Didn't those lawyers tell you that as well?
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The point he is making heatle is the MS agreement doesn't simply apply to one product. It applies to all with the included agreement listed or not. "This statement applies to the Microsoft products listed below, as well as other Microsoft products that display this statement." Products of which Windows 10 is one.
 
heatlesssun said:
Then they came for my driver metadata. Checked to see if the update worked, and OMG, got my CPU model! I mean, really. Folks clamoring on this issue must have be asleep for a decade and somehow forgot that half the people on the planet now carry tracking devices. Sorry, some of the outrage here is CLEARLY manufactured.
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Again... because company A sells me a device with a GPS in it that can track me. Its ok for MS to know everything I plug into my motherboard, as well as the file names I transfer around my machine, or what software I install and uninstall. Worse they can keep audio recordings Cortana has picked up unless I hack the OS to remove her or pull out my Mic (which I guess they also need to know if I have).

Perhaps a lot of people are late to the alarm bell... arguing MS can collect anything they want cause another company does it is a weak argument. Its like a little kid getting in trouble for doing something naughty and whining that their brother did it and got away with it.
 
ChadD said:
The point he is making heatle is the MS agreement doesn't simply apply to one product. It applies to all with the included agreement listed or not. "This statement applies to the Microsoft products listed below, as well as other Microsoft products that display this statement." Products of which Windows 10 is one.
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And my point is that a policy covering data that Microsoft has, like your files on OneDrive CAN'T cover data not in their procession. That's why the policies covering services and data they have don't apply to the data on a local hard drive. Again, unless Microsoft is secretly uploading files. And they have been accused of that by some over the years.
 
trparky said:
If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
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I honestly just cannot think of a comment except this one I'm posting so forgive me if it's not enough to point out the sheer lunacy this concept has on so many levels that even Infinity itself shudders to consider it.
 
ChadD said:
Again... because company A sells me a device with a GPS in it that can track me. Its ok for MS to know everything I plug into my motherboard, as well as the file names I transfer around my machine, or what software I install and uninstall. Worse they can keep audio recordings Cortana has picked up unless I hack the OS to remove her or pull out my Mic (which I guess they also need to know if I have).
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Where in the basic level info here is Microsoft saying the collect data filenames? And Windows Update has long known about the hardware config of the devices it updates. That's kind of how it's known forever to update drivers? I mean, no one seemed to freak out that the update system knew about drivers to update before now. But all of sudden it's a threat to freedom? I mean, really, there's just some fakeness to a lot of the this debate.

ChadD said:
Perhaps a lot of people are late to the alarm bell... arguing MS can collect anything they want cause another company does it is a weak argument. Its like a little kid getting in trouble for doing something naughty and whining that their brother did it and got away with it.
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No one said that Microsoft should just be able to collect any data they want. But there's a big difference between a CPU model and the contents of an Excel spreadsheet.
 
Tiberian said:
I honestly just cannot think of a comment except this one I'm posting so forgive me if it's not enough to point out the sheer lunacy this concept has on so many levels that even Infinity itself shudders to consider it.
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Think of it like this. If the telemetry in Windows 10 is a major worry one's life, then yeah, they don't have much to worry about.
 
heatlesssun said:
Where in the basic level info here is Microsoft saying the collect data filenames? And Windows Update has long known about the hardware config of the devices it updates. That's kind of how it's known forever to update drivers? I mean, no one seemed to freak out that the update system knew about drivers to update before now. But all of sudden it's a threat to freedom? I mean, really, there's just some fakeness to a lot of the this debate.

No one said that Microsoft should just be able to collect any data they want. But there's a big difference between a CPU model and the contents of an Excel spreadsheet.
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Well some people have complained about windows update polling system resources for a long time. Clearly it never bothered you so I can only guess you haven't been listening.

Your right MS shouldn't be free to collect anything they wish... yet they crafted their legal documents to allow exactly that. lol
I would have ZERO issue with MS collecting all the hardware data they wanted from my machine if they had a privacy statement that made clear they wouldn't sell that data or even keep it longer then is legally allowed with out permission in many places. That of course isn't how it works... their agreements make clear they will do as they please with the data... and yes it bothers me now as it always has.
 
heatlesssun said:
If the telemetry in Windows 10 is a major worry one's life, then yeah, they don't have much to worry about.
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The problem with your line of thinking is that when enough of them think that way it becomes a big worry for me even if they don't have the slightest grasp of what's happening.
 
ChadD said:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a Socialist.

Once we have all given up on privacy it gets really hard to complain later should it be abused. (and it will be)
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We live in dangerous times man. We have Muslims that want us dead and will do anything to make that happen. We need to do what it takes to protect ourselves, protect our way of life. It's us or them and I'm sure as hell going to make sure it's not us that ends up dead.

If spying is what is needed to make sure that we have intel to know when and where these bad people will attack, so be it. I'd rather be wrong and still alive than be right and dead. It doesn't matter who's right and who's wrong when you're dead.
 
ChadD said:
Well some people have complained about windows update polling system resources for a long time. Clearly it never bothered you so I can only guess you haven't been listening.
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I wasn't bothered by it but I was aware of it. It's one of the reasons why Windows Update and Windows Defender are disabled in enterprise environments. But this is revisionist history, there simply wasn't outrage over this before now. Some people are clinging to Windows 7 and thinking only now has Microsoft ever collect telemetry from them with the updates to 7. That's just not true and that's why I don't believe a lot of the outrage is genuine or informed. Just reading over the elements in the basic telemetry, a LOT of it is about the update process. And no doubt that Microsoft over the years has collect data from that process before now to know EXACTLY what the things they are looking for.

ChadD said:
Your right MS shouldn't be free to collect anything they wish... yet they crafted their legal documents to allow exactly that. lol
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Nope, again, those documents pertain to personal data that was given to them voluntarily. Know gives a fuck about or is going to do anything because they know your CPU model and motherboard make. Not all information has equal value. Some of it, on an individual level is worthless, like a CPU model.
 
Tiberian said:
The problem with your line of thinking is that when enough of them think that way it becomes a big worry for me even if they don't have the slightest grasp of what's happening.
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See what you're saying but it's half past way to late on a lot of this. Billions of people just started carrying tracking devices but Windows 10 telemetry, yeah that's the thing that's going to erode my privacy and freedoms. This stuff would have NEVER been there if the market hadn't excepted it willingly and overwhelmingly.
 
heatlesssun said:
Nope, again, those documents pertain to personal data that was given to them voluntarily. Know gives a fuck about or is going to do anything because they know your CPU model and motherboard make. Not all information has equal value. Some of it, on an individual level is worthless, like a CPU model.
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First you need to actually read those documents heatle they don't say what you think they say.

Also I think I already explained to you that CPU model information is in fact Very valuable... to companies that sell CPUs. You think Intel wouldn't like to know exactly what models AMD sells... or that AMD wouldn't love to know exact sales figure on every Intel CPU. Ditto for GPU manufacturers... Storage Manufacturers, ect ect. MS has covered their backsides to sell that data to whoever they like. Sure it doesn't seem like a big deal telling MS what processor your using today... some folks like yourself even put that data in your sig. Still I don't know where you live and what IP your reporting from but MS sure does.

I think I already explained this... AMD would pay to know exact numbers of Intel CPUs, and exactly where they are being used. I have no idea what you do for a living Heatle... but there are very few industries where knowing exactly which of and where your competitors products are wouldn't be valuable. There are plenty of ways to purchase that data... but in the tech industry due to their virtual monopoly MS is in a unique position to sell extremely accurate competitor data.
 
ChadD said:
First you need to actually read those documents heatle they don't say what you think they say.
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It doesn't matter what the documents say. How can Microsoft or anyone else give data IT DOESN'T HAVE? Again, this issue gets hype up and basic reality is gone.
 
heatlesssun said:
Where in the basic level info here is Microsoft saying the collect data filenames? And Windows Update has long known about the hardware config of the devices it updates. That's kind of how it's known forever to update drivers? I mean, no one seemed to freak out that the update system knew about drivers to update before now. But all of sudden it's a threat to freedom? I mean, really, there's just some fakeness to a lot of the this debate.

No one said that Microsoft should just be able to collect any data they want. But there's a big difference between a CPU model and the contents of an Excel spreadsheet.
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This User Account Control (UAC) telemetry point collects information on elevations that originate from low integrity levels. This occurs when a process running at low integrity level (IL) requires higher (administrator) privileges, and therefore requests for elevation via UAC (consent.exe). By better understanding the processes requesting these elevations, Microsoft can in turn improve the detection and handling of potentially malicious behavior in this path.

exeName Represents the name of the file requesting elevation from low IL

Microsoft.Windows.Appraiser.General.InventoryApplicationFileAdd
This event represents the basic metadata about a file on the system. The file must be part of an app and either have a block in the compatibility database or are part of an anti-virus program.
The following fields are available:

LowerCaseLongPath The full file path to the file that was inventoried on the device.
Name The name of the file that was inventoried


Appraiser events
Microsoft.Windows.Appraiser.General.ChecksumTotalPictureCount
This event lists the types of objects and how many of each exist on the client device. This allows for a quick way to ensure that the records present on the server match what is present on the client.


InventoryApplicationFile The total InventoryApplicationFile objects that are present on this device.
InventoryMediaCenter The total InventoryMediaCenter objects that are present on this device.

Microsoft.Windows.Appraiser.General.InventoryMediaCenterAdd
This event sends true/false data about decision points used to understand whether Windows Media Center is used on the system, to help keep Windows up to date.
The following fields are available:


HasWatchedFolders Are any folders configured for Windows Media Center to watch?
IsDefaultLauncher Is Windows Media Center the default app for opening music or video files?



Microsoft.Windows.Inventory.Core.InventoryApplicationAdd
This event sends basic metadata about an application on the system to help keep Windows up to date.
The following fields are available:


ProgramInstanceId A hash of the file IDs in an app.
Name The name of the application. Location pulled from depends on 'Source' field. Example:
Type One of ("Application", "Hotfix", "BOE", "Service", "Unknown"). Application indicates Win32 or Appx app, Hotfix indicates app updates (KBs), BOE indicates it's an app with no ARP or MSI entry, Service indicates that it is a service. Application and BOE are the ones most likely seen. Example: Application
Publisher The Publisher of the application. Location pulled from depends on the 'Source' field. Example: Neudesic
Version The version number of the program. Example: 6.00.0003
Language The language code of the program. Language codes can be found at 221435 Example: 1033
Source Where the data for the application was found, such as Add/Remove Programs (ARP), MSI, AppxPackage, etc. Example: Msi
MsiProductCode A GUID that describe the MSI Product. Example: {365812a8-44d6-422e-b737-d540451e5f4e}
MsiPackageCode A GUID that describes the MSI Package. Multiple 'Products' (apps) can make up an MsiPackage. Example: {1BCC5142-D98C-430B-B74A-484A0328A7CE}
HiddenArp Indicates whether a program hides itself from showing up in ARP. Example: TRUE
OSVersionAtInstallTime The four octets from the OS version at the time of the application's install. Example:
RootDirPath The path to the root directory where the program was installed. Example: %ProgramFiles% (x86)\Neudesic\Azure Storage Explorer 6
InstallDate The date the application was installed (a best guess based on folder creation date heuristics) Example: 4/12/2015 01:27:52
InstallDateMsi The install date if the application was installed via MSI. Passed as an array. Example: 4/11/2015 00:00:00
InstallDateFromLinkFile The estimated date of install based on the links to the files. Passed as an array. Example: 4/8/2015 01:06:11
InstallDateArpLastModified The date of the registry ARP key for a given application. Hints at install date but not always accurate. Passed as an array. Example: 4/11/2015 00:00:00
PartB_Ms.Device.DeviceInventoryChange See the Common Data Fields section.
objectInstanceId ProgramId (a hash of Name, Version, Publisher, and Language of an application used to identify it). Example: 00000144865763f3de24c2ae5a289fde6db300000904
PackageFullName The package full name for a Store application. Example: Microsoft.Hexic_1.2.0.36_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
InventoryVersion The version of the inventory file generating the events.
StoreAppType A sub-classification for the type of Windows Store app, such as UWP or Win8StoreApp.


Microsoft.Windows.Appraiser.General.WmdrmAdd
This event sends data about the usage of older digital rights management on the system, to help keep Windows up to date. This data does not indicate the details of the media using the digital rights management, only whether any such files exist. Collecting this data was critical to ensuring the correct mitigation for customers, and should be able to be removed once all mitigations are in place.
The following fields are available:



WmdrmCdRipped Indicates if the system has any files encrypted with personal DRM, which was used for ripped CDs.
WmdrmNonPermanent Indicates if the system has any files with non-permanent licenses.
WmdrmPurchased Indicates if the system has any files with permanent licenses.
WmdrmApiResult Raw value of the API used to gather DRM state.
WmdrmInUse WmdrmIndicators AND dismissible block in setup was not dismissed.
WmdrmIndicators WmdrmCdRipped OR WmdrmPurchased
NeedsDismissAction Indicates if a dismissible message is needed to warn the user about a potential loss of data due to DRM deprecation



This event sends data about the current user's default preferences for browser and several of the most popular extensions and protocols, to help keep Windows up to date.
The following fields are available:

DefaultBrowserProgId The ProgramId of the current user's default browser
DefaultApp The current uer's default program selected for the following extension or protocol: .html,.htm,.jpg,.jpeg,.png,.mp3,.mp4, .mov,.pdf



This event sends data indicating that a device has undergone a change of telemetry opt-in level during the runtime of the device (not at UTC boot or offline), to help keep Windows up to date.
The following fields are available:

CanAddMsaToMsTelemetry True if UTC is allowed to add MSA user identity onto telemetry from the OS provider groups.
CanCollectAnyTelemetry True if UTC is allowed to collect non-OS telemetry. Non-OS telemetry is responsible for providing its own opt-in mechanism.
CanCollectCoreTelemetry True if UTC is allowed to collect data which is tagged with both MICROSOFT_KEYWORD_CRITICAL_DATA and MICROSOFT_EVENTTAG_CORE_DATA.
CanCollectHeartbeats True if UTC is allowed to collect heartbeats.
CanCollectOsTelemetry True if UTC is allowed to collect telemetry from the OS provider groups (often called Microsoft Telemetry).
CanPerformDiagnosticEscalations True if UTC is allowed to perform all scenario escalations.
CanPerformScripting True if UTC is allowed to perform scripting.
CanPerformTraceEscalations True if UTC is allowed to perform scenario escalations with tracing actions.
CanReportScenarios True if UTC is allowed to load and report scenario completion, failure, and cancellation events.
TransitionFromEverythingOff True if this transition is moving from not allowing core telemetry to allowing core telemetry.
PreviousPermissions Bitmask representing the previously configured permissions since the telemetry opt-in level was last changed.





they are collecting a ton more than just cpu info and vid card info. but on the postive side i did see this so maybe just maybe when you change your settings win 10 will keep them .



This event sends basic data on privacy settings before and after a feature update. This is used to ensure that customer privacy settings are correctly migrated across feature updates.
PostUpgradeSettings The privacy settings after a feature update.
PreUpgradeSettings The privacy settings before a feature update.
 
heatlesssun said:
It doesn't matter what the documents say. How can Microsoft or anyone else give data IT DOESN'T HAVE? Again, this issue gets hype up and basic reality is gone.
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But they do have a ton of meta data, they don't want your files heatle. They want to count them, they want to know when they are accessed. They want to know what you install, what you uninstall, what you set as default. They want to know a lot of shit they have no right to know... well they do have the right cause they have written it into that document you say doesn't matter. They have also written into that document the right to change what it says at any time, at which point if you continue using the software you already purchased from them you agree to whatever the fuck they decided to change.
 
jardows said:
Not necessarily. If you use an Android based smartphone or an iPhone, Google and Apple respectively are collecting data of everything you do on those devices. So unless you are using a Blackberry or (like me) a "low-tech" flip phone, you're giving everything away to those companies.
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I have an Android phone (LG G2) and it essentially sends nothing to Google or Verizon that I don't allow it to.
It is using a heavily customized Android Kit Kat build with a lot of my own additional stuff added to it (including my own build of the kernel and some VERY strict iptables rules).
If I can't root the phone, I won't buy it.

I realize I'm weird: most people don't use SSH and vi when they want to change the configuration on their cell phones.
 
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ChadD said:
As someone who has a 8 year old Linux server in a corner that hasn't been powered down in over a year or so now and I think may have went as long as a year and a half at one point.... your making me think about installing Windows 10 on it.

Windows is plenty of things. Stable. Not sure that is its best selling point.
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Windows 10 may spy on you, but stability is not an issue on a properly configured system. The same is true for Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 (with 7 being a bit less stable than Windows 8.1 quite frankly).

The system I am currently typing this on is running Win 10 Pro 1511, has had essentially all telemetry and feedback forcefully uninstalled, has had updates disabled other than those I manually install using a WSUS hack, has had almost all Modern apps including both Edge and the Store itself removed and deprovisioned from new accounts, etc. It gets used heavily every day and hasn't been rebooted (or put to sleep) since November. My other system at one of my offices is running Windows 8.1 Pro with similar modifications made. It hasn't been rebooted since sometime in the middle of 2015.
 
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