AMD vs Nvidia Newegg Reviews

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DMFD-Minister

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I've been out of the PC Building game for a while - think 5 years. So I'm just getting caught up to speed with where Nvidia and AMD are at. When I left gaming, the 7970 was slapping nvidia's cards silly. Today, it seems to be a very different story - one that I'm probably the 45,291th user to rehash, but here goes:

- I'm going to do most of my gaming on 1080p
- RX470 seems best bang for the buck

but...

AMD doesn't have a single mainstream card with 5-egg reviews on Newegg. Not one. From what I can gather this is due to buggy drivers, crashes, and general inconsistency. Every single Nvidia card has a manufacturer with 5-egg reviews in the 80-90 percentile.

but...

with Ryzen out, the rumor is that it's optimized to run on AMD and I'm probably going to grab a 1600(X)

but...

AMD has awful graphics reviews and I usually only buy components that have the highest and best reviews giving me the best chance at a successful and positive build experience.

thoughts?
 
Newegg reviews are worthless for the most part. Go to sites like this one and look at their reviews and buy accordingly. The 470 is a good card for the money if that's the performance level you want/need or can afford.
 
I do read reviews, and it can give you a perspective, but I would bet money like half of the reviews (especially bad ones) are either bogus or user error.
 
I take the reviews with a grain of salt unless there's some sort of major defect where a a lot of the reviewers complain something is faulty and I can back that up with a google search. My last card was an Asus DirectCu 280x and the drivers were really good. This is card that had really bad reviews on Newegg but was really solid for me. From having both cards the past couple of years, I've seen no major problems with them and if there are, they usually get fixed right away either from nvidia/amd or the manufacturer.
 
For 1080P gaming (based on MSRP), the RX 470 and RX 480 are your best bang-for-the-buck cards, with the value proposition swinging wildly depending on what kind of deal you can find. I'd look at a 1060 6 GB only if it were cheaper than either of those two RTG cards or if you have a really dodgy power supply.

As someone who had AMD cards for about a decade I still don't get the hate on AMD drivers. Neither company has been perfect in the driver department. For quite some time, AMD didn't release a lot of WHQL drivers (IIRC they went to a quarterly schedule way back when) but the monthly drivers, despite not being WHQL, didn't seem to generate any ill effects on my system(s).
 
Yeah the 480 and 1060 are pretty much equal and instead of performance other factors should be considered such as price/cooling-noise/etc.
Each manufacturer will have AIB products out there that have pros and cons in this regard and influencing price, but generally on price that is a positive for the 480 although each IHV complicates this.
As an example on Newegg the MSI Armor is cheaper as a GTX1060 but the Strix is $20 cheaper as a 480, although I appreciate there are many who are interested just in price that would swing more generally to the 480 rather than specific 1060/480 IHV models.

Cheers
 
I understand that everyone that writes reviews doesn't necessarily know how to build computers. They might have bought a card and tossed it into a generic Dell PC hoping it'll work on the 300W power supply with outdated firmware. I'll probably end up going with a 470 or 480 at the right price, but I do think reviews are can be used to make some generalizations about a product.

The last time I purposefully bought Nvidia was so long ago. It was a FX-5200 pair with 2600+ Barton Core and the Nvidia card was a mistake. Since then I've owned:

ATI Radeon 3850
ATI Radeon 4870
ATI Radeon 6990
ATI Radeon 6950


470/480 seems to be the best price/performance
1060 is nice too

I don't think I have the patience to wait for AMD's next gen GPUs and I probably have no use for the performance they'll bring to the table.
 
DMFD-Minister said:
I've been out of the PC Building game for a while - think 5 years. So I'm just getting caught up to speed with where Nvidia and AMD are at. When I left gaming, the 7970 was slapping nvidia's cards silly. Today, it seems to be a very different story - one that I'm probably the 45,291th user to rehash, but here goes:

- I'm going to do most of my gaming on 1080p
- RX470 seems best bang for the buck

but...

AMD doesn't have a single mainstream card with 5-egg reviews on Newegg. Not one. From what I can gather this is due to buggy drivers, crashes, and general inconsistency. Every single Nvidia card has a manufacturer with 5-egg reviews in the 80-90 percentile.

but...

with Ryzen out, the rumor is that it's optimized to run on AMD and I'm probably going to grab a 1600(X)

but...

AMD has awful graphics reviews and I usually only buy components that have the highest and best reviews giving me the best chance at a successful and positive build experience.

thoughts?
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I don't mean to toot my own horn, but as an avid digital currency miner i know amd cards very well. Everything ive ordered AMD side from the 4850 on up as been rock solid for me. Currently I have 7 RX480s and 2 7970s of various makes / models mining away. Sometimes i game on them too, no crashes, glitches, etc ( i always keep them at stock clocks ) and temps under 80C. last year I had 16 cards mining, not had a single card failed on me. I always always buy whatever cheapest card is unless it has a really bad fan design.

At the price point of 4gb 480s and 470s you cant go wrong. if your going to spend $200+ id go AMD fury for $239 if its still on sale -- otherwise Geforce 1070

With all the above, ive also gambled on some open box cards. I picked up a water cooled Powercolor 390x from newegg openbox for $329 (back when the 390x was new) it was DOA, but any card that worked out of the box has worked for years
 
buttons said:
I don't mean to toot my own horn, but as an avid digital currency miner i know amd cards very well. Everything ive ordered AMD side from the 4850 on up as been rock solid for me. Currently I have 7 RX480s and 2 7970s of various makes / models mining away. Sometimes i game on them too, no crashes, glitches, etc ( i always keep them at stock clocks ) and temps under 80C. last year I had 16 cards mining, not had a single card failed on me. I always always buy whatever cheapest card is unless it has a really bad fan design.

At the price point of 4gb 480s and 470s you cant go wrong. if your going to spend $200+ id go AMD fury for $239 if its still on sale -- otherwise Geforce 1070

With all the above, ive also gambled on some open box cards. I picked up a water cooled Powercolor 390x from newegg openbox for $329 (back when the 390x was new) it was DOA, but any card that worked out of the box has worked for years
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Fair real-world experience , thanks for your feedback
 
I was a big miner back when I could solo mine BTC before custom mining hardware launched, to put it in perspective I had a whole dedicated electrical panel, a diesel genset and two furnace blowers that kept everything close to ambient to cool the rigs. At the peak, I was pushing 30 highly undervolted and somewhat down clocked 6990's and about 40 more single core cards (all undervolted and down clocked). My failure rate was negligible with only one exception and that's the power color 5830's and the power color 6870's .. they died left, right and center. I sent so many back for warranty (fans really sucked on them too before I got wise and started removing the shrouds to let the furnace blower do it's job) that I regretted the bulk purchase of the low end and stopped doing it. I started focusing on dual GPU cards only. with the wind literally whistling through there, the most durable cards I bought were Sapphire and my favourite motherboards (this was near the end - literally anything would do but) were Asus FM1 boards - I'd leave the APU's solo mining LTC, and man did they ever deliver. I mined LTC for a while with some of the 7000 series but it went downhill soon after.

Most disappointing card was the 7870xt (tahiti LE, aka 7930) ... it just lacked in ways for mining that hurt and it could barely compete with a 6870 while using way more power. unlocked 6950's were so cheap and good... liked those a lot.

So when I think that I had 5850/70's than ran for two years night and day at full load, I'm pretty OK with most AMD graphics partners. I should point out I never owned an XFX, they always seemed too pricey for what I was doing.
 
Simplyfun said:
I was a big miner back when I could solo mine BTC before custom mining hardware launched, to put it in perspective I had a whole dedicated electrical panel, a diesel genset and two furnace blowers that kept everything close to ambient to cool the rigs. At the peak, I was pushing 30 highly undervolted and somewhat down clocked 6990's and about 40 more single core cards (all undervolted and down clocked). My failure rate was negligible with only one exception and that's the power color 5830's and the power color 6870's .. they died left, right and center. I sent so many back for warranty (fans really sucked on them too before I got wise and started removing the shrouds to let the furnace blower do it's job) that I regretted the bulk purchase of the low end and stopped doing it. I started focusing on dual GPU cards only. with the wind literally whistling through there, the most durable cards I bought were Sapphire and my favourite motherboards (this was near the end - literally anything would do but) were Asus FM1 boards - I'd leave the APU's solo mining LTC, and man did they ever deliver. I mined LTC for a while with some of the 7000 series but it went downhill soon after.

Most disappointing card was the 7870xt (tahiti LE, aka 7930) ... it just lacked in ways for mining that hurt and it could barely compete with a 6870 while using way more power. unlocked 6950's were so cheap and good... liked those a lot.

So when I think that I had 5850/70's than ran for two years night and day at full load, I'm pretty OK with most AMD graphics partners. I should point out I never owned an XFX, they always seemed too pricey for what I was doing.
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I sometimes see people post about these setups and always wonder - did you make any money doing it?
 
DMFD-Minister said:
I sometimes see people post about these setups and always wonder - did you make any money doing it?
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I made out far better than most bank robbers. The problem was, it wasn't life changing, I was already parachuted out of a C level job and semi retired. I still hold a lot of coin because of legislation regarding capital gains here in Canada, under which crypto currency sales fall. I buy a couple gold coins every month to bleed it away but when I turn some to cash I have to tax plan carefully. My wife is a Chartered Accountant though and that helps.

And I'm seriously the worst consumer ever. I drive and buy old shit boxes (except the truck is a little better, because farming and work) . The only new vehicle we have is the wife's Jeep because .. well she's a girl and breaking down in winter here would suck for her. I mostly drive a 98 grand cherokee, sometimes a 73 Charger and the Cummins Dodge. I import Lenovo and Xiaomi cell phones because I won't pay for Apple or Sammy. I mostly just farm and rebuild the houses and cottages we buy. I still consult in some specialized tech.

But I don't really want or need anything. So it was kind of wasted on me. It was more like a new DC competition than a money thing. The fact it turned out like it did was mildly surprising.
 
very cool :)

Sounds like you'd be a good guest for Dave Ramsey to have on his radio show regarding how to be smart with your money
 
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