The Darker Side of Black - Vantablack

Armenius said:
I'd love to see that painted on a car.

Just noticed that you can see a little light being reflected along the bottom edge of the sphere.
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J3RK said:
That would be insanely cool. Especially if the rest of the car wasn't done with this. (trim, wheels, lights obviously, etc.)
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Only if you wanted your car to get to 160F + in the summer time.

The darker the color, the more heat it soaks up.

The A/C in the car would not be able to keep up in a sunny/hot environment if it was painted with that stuff.
 
Quartz-1 said:
THe website says that this stuff isn't suitable for applications where it can be touched - it needs to be in a maintenance-free environment, like Dekoth-E- 's watch face.
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:'( Oh, and it sounded so fun to play volleyball or baseball with a vantablack ball.

And to paint all the walls and floor and furniture of my house in that color so that my vantablack suit would really work as camo. I probably wouldn't even need to get near the wall for it to work.
 
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DarkStar_WNY said:
Exactly, the purpose of camo is to basically break out your shape and silhouette so when someone looks in your direction their eyes and brain don't register what they are seeing as a person. I would imagine adding something like this to the mix would really aid in doing just that.
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Correct, but if you've ever seen something at night that is too black, its very noticeable. Also we already have blacks in fabrics that are too black, the basic problem is night is dark, not black.

I don't think this material would be used in camo, not for a person at least, as you don't even want to draw the eye to the 'black' spots, add in that those spots will move with and you've given away your position. The best night camo doesn't even have black in it to my knowledge because it draws the eye. Some kind of digital camo like cadpat is really the best camo you can get today, kicks the ass out of ACU Camo. You yanks really should have just bought the stuff from us.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Interesting note, this would be really neat on a traditional watch face. Could make it look like the hands and time marks are just floating in space. Also since you can seal dust out, it would make it easier for it to maintain that appearance.
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Yeah something like that would be nice. Although I wonder type of stuff they will allow this to be used for when it's more available/cheaper, I would think the watch scenario would be too dangerous. There's a reason you see them wearing masks handling the stuff. The watch breaks or whatever other item and all of a sudden you could potentially be breathing in the carbon nanotubes. Which I believe is worse than fiberglass inhalation since they are smaller particles.
 
I would love a full body suit and mask and a wall painted with it and pop out at people walking by.

On a real note i want this for my ht room badly
 
Always wondered what would happen if you painted a car with that stuff :p
 
leezard said:
Yeah he is a large individual. I'm friends with their original guitar player Randy (the one that looks like Kenny G) I try to go see them when they play here but they usually play at a club thats about an hour away from home. The drive there isnt bad, that drive home at 2am sucks! I'm sure they will be at ride for dime in Dallas this year, I'll probably go to that.
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Yeah, been thinking about rolling up to OKC for the 420 festival and catching THC there.
 
dgingeri said:
I don't care so much about light reflectiveness for my car. I was something that will absorb radar and laser.
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Laser is light. Just depends if this will reflect infrared or ultra violet if those wavelengths are used in laser speed guns.

I wonder if they have started painting spy satellites with this yet? Would make them only detectable by radar or if you could be lucky and spot it as it eclipsed something bright like the moon or a star.
 
Aireoth said:
Correct, but if you've ever seen something at night that is too black, its very noticeable. Also we already have blacks in fabrics that are too black, the basic problem is night is dark, not black.

I don't think this material would be used in camo, not for a person at least, as you don't even want to draw the eye to the 'black' spots, add in that those spots will move with and you've given away your position. The best night camo doesn't even have black in it to my knowledge because it draws the eye. Some kind of digital camo like cadpat is really the best camo you can get today, kicks the ass out of ACU Camo. You yanks really should have just bought the stuff from us.
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You are correct, but I'm not thinking large spots and instead some random thin strips of it so as to break up your silhouette & shape, as well as that of your equipment, vehicles and even buildings.

I'm curious what effect this might have when viewed through night vision, thermal imagers and other image enhanced/intensifiers.
 
leezard said:
I'm just here for the THC
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Somehow I have missed these guys entirely...no idea how. Works for me, have a new band to listen to, yet oddly I could swear I've heard these guys before...sounds so familiar yet I can't place it.
 
Snowdog said:
I suspect many of the cool google images are fakes. The stuff isn't exactly available to buy off the shelf. It was hard to find an actual video showing the stuff in motion. Here are a couple:


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It's real, I saw it live at CES a few years ago. It hurts to look at it. Like seriously your brain has problems comprehending what's in front of you.
 
I kinda want to see a couple at a con or just out in public wearing "censor bars" made out of this material encased in something optically transparent, such as thin lexan or similar. The material's so dark, if the bars were constructed to be a rectangle that provides barring from 4 sides, it would look like they were drawn over the real world rather than being worn.
 
jpm100 said:
you put a mesh of LED's on your Vanta Suit. The LED's use an RGB match to the background on the opposite side of your suit At a distance you would be visual stealth.
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Unfortunately, this would only work if an object could be viewed from a single perspective or by a single viewer. If you were standing in front of this LED suit that was projecting on its LEDs what is behind it from where you stand, it would appear invisible...but what about the guy standing next to you, or the guy standing a couple feet away from you to one side?
 
Apply this to all the trim and exterior lighting of some pos teal j-body, preferably a 4 door caviler, show those posers how full murder is done...
 
Cantroy said:
OK, that is cool. Well, until we get it onto clothing that people can wear at night... I know I would want some, and so would a lot of militaries.
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You would stand out worse than wearing day-glo.
It's blacker than anything around it, so you focus on it. The minute you move you would stand out like a bright light.
 
Ruffy said:
It's real, I saw it live at CES a few years ago. It hurts to look at it. Like seriously your brain has problems comprehending what's in front of you.
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I never said the substance was fake, just some of the google image search results. Those two videos I linked are real.

For example: If you do a google image search you will see women wearing Vantablack dresses. Pretty damn sure those are fake.
 
Has anyone seen this in person? I'm sure photographs/video doesn't do it justice...
 
dgingeri said:
I don't care so much about light reflectiveness for my car. I was something that will absorb radar and laser.
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Articles says "Behold the New Vantablack 2.0, the Art Material So Black It Eats Lasers and Flattens Reality"

So it should be good for absorbing lasers. The problem is it can't be touched, which probably also means it can't go 70+mph, where you would need it. Or where a stealth craft could possibly use it.

Very disappointing... I was hoping for a VantaBlack Ninja Suit for Christmas. So I could hide in the shadows. :/
 
DarkStar_WNY said:
You are correct, but I'm not thinking large spots and instead some random thin strips of it so as to break up your silhouette & shape, as well as that of your equipment, vehicles and even buildings.

I'm curious what effect this might have when viewed through night vision, thermal imagers and other image enhanced/intensifiers.
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I think camo even eliminated black entirely from patches, they use navy I think. Black just stands out to much.

That being said, this tech hides shapes very well, I can see it being used on equipment, particularly stationary stuff. I bet it would make it hard to gather effective intelligence about military outposts with a layer of this stuff around em.

Just imagine how creepy an FOB would look, just a black patch, no idea what it looks like. as for night vision, I think this would still just look black, depends on if any light escapes it at all. Thermal it wouldn't impact unless it hides heat.
 
This stuff has been around for a few years. I don't think it will be available to the public anytime soon
 
jedijeb13 said:
I wonder if they have started painting spy satellites with this yet? Would make them only detectable by radar or if you could be lucky and spot it as it eclipsed something bright like the moon or a star.
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That would ultimately depend on how resistant it is to space dust, cosmic rays and solar wind, things that we don't see down here, thanks to the atmosphere and magnetic fields.
 
Just saw a video on CNN on this stuff, it includes a laser being shined on it but the dot doesn't show.

Check out the link below.


 
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