Dell 8K UP3218K Monitor Released

I am a player at 3k, but 5k is too high with the current GPU's available. I wonder what games will play like at 8k even with dual 1080's
 
At 8k, even with 2x GTX 1080 Ti and medium settings, it's a challenge...
 
I've played games at 7680x3200 on my measly 7970. Although this was years ago, I was playing UT3 and Battlefield Bad Company 2. I was getting a playable experience, framerate wise, but because I was doing it with Eyefinity, the horizontal bezel was horrible.

Point is, You can probably get a playable experience, but you'll need to kill a lot of settings.

I kinda want this monitor, but it's too small. Cramming 8 x 30"rs into the space of 32"s is not so great.
 
Am I naive to assume that this screen might be similar to looking out of a window?
 
I use a 40" 4K screen, and the text is about right, i couldn't imagine doubling the pixels per inch, let alone then making thay fit into a 32" area.
 
KazeoHin said:
I use a 40" 4K screen, and the text is about right, i couldn't imagine doubling the pixels per inch, let alone then making thay fit into a 32" area.
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I'm thinking about doing this for a main display, gaming and web design. You're using a TV right? Any tips appreciated.
 
eadgce said:
Am I naive to assume that this screen might be similar to looking out of a window?
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It's certain got the resolution, but the brightness isn't high enough for HDR at 400 cd/m2. Frankly the LG 32UD99 might actually look better since 4K @ 32" is still going to be extremely sharp and it claims to have a peak brightness of 550 cd/m2 (though 350cd/m2 typical).
 
KazeoHin said:
I use a 40" 4K screen, and the text is about right, i couldn't imagine doubling the pixels per inch, let alone then making thay fit into a 32" area.
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40" is still a bit small; it should be 46" for 100 96 PPI.
8K at 40" would use 200/225% display scaling so that your workspace is the same but everything is rendered at 4x the resolution.
8K at 32" would use 275/300% display scaling.

It's about being able to display much sharper text and more detailed images, not more workspace.
This screen is going to be amazing for photography or print work.

I've had 200 PPI on my notebooks and 400 PPI on my phones for years.
I'm glad to see desktop monitors catching up.
That pixel density at that size is going to look amazing.

I would still like to see larger screens at that resolution though. 200% scaling on a 46" screen would look really good too, and it would give you a lot more workspace.
 
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The manual doesn't seem to be on Dell's site yet. I was curious what the graphics card requirements are.
 
I can't wait to see one of these, and I hope they are available soon!
 
Nite_Hawk said:
It'd be one thing if this was a 40+" screen, but at 32" this is pretty silly imho.
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Agreed. That much resolution packed into a 32" screen for anything but high end photography work is pretty much a waste. I've got a 32" 4k screen with the text scaling already set at 150% just to make things manageable for me. Now a 42" monitor at 8K would look pretty sweet... but it's going to be a while before we have enough GPU muscle to game at 8K resolution though... at least another gen or two.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
but it's going to be a while before we have enough GPU muscle to game at 8K resolution though... at least another gen or two.
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You don't need to run games at 8K, the PPI is so small that you can literally run any other resolution and will look good. 1080p, 1440p, 1600p, 900p, 924p, doesn't matter.
 
EnhancedInterrogator said:
You don't need to run games at 8K, the PPI is so small that you can literally run any other resolution and will look good. 1080p, 1440p, 1600p, 900p, 924p, doesn't matter.
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Errr, what's the point? Running a game at a low resolution scaled up to 8K isn't really going to look that much better than the same low resolution running 1:1 on a quality monitor whose native resolution happens to match. Sure, on an 8K monitor the edges might look a bit sharper and less bleed of colors etc. if the scaling happens to be 4:1, but there's nothing to be gained in the game's intrinsic displayed content/image as to more detail, wider FOV, etc. Hell, If I have an 8K monitor, I'd damn well want to drive its native resolution, especially if it's only a 32" screen!
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
Errr, what's the point?
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The point is that you won't be limited to a single resolution. Say, you want to run a game at Ultra settings and 60fps, but at 1440p you can't quite maintain 60. No big deal, just drop your resolution to 1260p. 1260p would look great on an 8K monitor. Looks pretty bad on a 1440p monitor.

The high PPI makes it's OK to not run an even scaling ratio.
 
EnhancedInterrogator said:
The point is that you won't be limited to a single resolution. Say, you want to run a game at Ultra settings and 60fps, but at 1440p you can't quite maintain 60. No big deal, just drop your resolution to 1260p. 1260p would look great on an 8K monitor. Looks pretty bad on a 1440p monitor.

The high PPI makes it's OK to not run an even scaling ratio.
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I can already do that with a 4k monitor. Your are simply referring to image scaling here, and none native image scaling is a mixed bag of dicks IMHO. Why the fuck would I want to lay down $5k on a 32" 8K monitor to do that?! Maybe it's just me, but I like driving displays at their native resolution - I.E. a 1:1 scale.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
Maybe it's just me, but I like driving displays at their native resolution - I.E. a 1:1 scale.
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That limits your options with all the games you play. Since you have to play at your fixed res (1080 or 1440), then your only option to get good performance is to either drop the other quality settings (lighting, geometry, draw distance), or play at a lower frame rate. When you have a high PPI display, you can target a desired frame rate and quality settings, letting the resolution be fluid, instead of being forced, by having a low-res monitor, to target your monitor's native res.
 
I am glad that I don't game so I don't have to deal with these problems lol. I put one of these on order, I also am getting a 1080TI on the way to see how that does. I am more concerned with what my Mac drives it at.
 
EnhancedInterrogator said:
That limits your options with all the games you play. Since you have to play at your fixed res (1080 or 1440), then your only option to get good performance is to either drop the other quality settings (lighting, geometry, draw distance), or play at a lower frame rate. When you have a high PPI display, you can target a desired frame rate and quality settings, letting the resolution be fluid, instead of being forced, by having a low-res monitor, to target your monitor's native res.
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Bullshit. I run a 4k monitor now. With an 8K monitor, you are at the mercy of the quality of the scaler you are using and the scaling factor alignment it happens to select if you run a lower resolution on it. My 4k monitor isn't limiting the resolutions I game at now and I prefer NOT to upscale, but run games 1:1. I'm not having to run at a fixed resolution of 1080 or 1440 now due to my monitor - I run everything at 4k now and my gpu can keep up. All I am saying is that I personally am not willing to invest in a 8K monitor in order to run a game at 1080 or 1440 on it... that would be idiocy as far as ROI and the overall gaming experience. If and when I buy an 8K monitor, I damn well am going to have the gpu prowess to be able to also drive the sucker at its native resolution with acceptable framerates...
 
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VRT said:
I am glad that I don't game so I don't have to deal with these problems lol. I put one of these on order, I also am getting a 1080TI on the way to see how that does. I am more concerned with what my Mac drives it at.
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Totally get that. If not gaming, then 8K would be pretty sweet. Let us know how much you need to crank up the text scaling to be able to read anything on that sucker though once you get it. I would expect 200% at a minimum at least! To even be able to distinguish individual pixels at that resolution and screen size, you are going to have to have really good eyesight (my 51 year old eyeballs aren't going to be able to cut it) and yours are going to have to be a foot or less from the screen to make them out... limits of human anatomy/physics start coming into play here.
 
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Supercharged_Z06 said:
Totally get that. If not gaming, then 8K would be pretty sweet. Let us know how much you need to crank up the text scaling to be able to read anything on that sucker though once you get it. I would expect 200% at a minimum at least! To even be able to distinguish individual pixels at that resolution and screen size, you are going to have to have really good eyesight (my 51 year old eyeballs aren't going to be able to cut it) and yours are going to have to be a foot or less from the screen to make them out... limits of human anatomy/physics start coming into play here.
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I am 42 and I just had to get reading glasses this January. I am also guessing 200% on winblows, I am hoping 150-175% though as I want more text on the screen. I did use a UP2715K for a while and it was barley ok at 100% but I liked it.

What year is your charged Z06? I love my LT4 the A8 transmission is a dream, I am a gimp so I can no longer drive a stick that much and the automatic makes these cars more obtainable for me.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
With an 8K monitor, you are at the mercy of the quality of the scaler you are using and the scaling factor alignment it happens to select if you run a lower resolution on it..
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Most game engines have an internal scaler now, which can combine with things like TAA to get a very smooth look. Check out Titanfall 2's Adaptive Resolution option. It scales the resolution to keep the frame rate consistent, and it's actually hard to notice most of the time. I know I don't just speak for myself when I say I'd much rather go that route than sacrificing ambient occlusion or draw distance.
 
VRT said:
I am 42 and I just had to get reading glasses this January. I am also guessing 200% on winblows, I am hoping 150-175% though as I want more text on the screen. I did use a UP2715K for a while and it was barley ok at 100% but I liked it.

What year is your charged Z06? I love my LT4 the A8 transmission is a dream, I am a gimp so I can no longer drive a stick that much and the automatic makes these cars more obtainable for me.
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I'll be surprised if you manage to hold it to just 200%... still will be a squint fest I bet. :D.
My Z06 is getting long in tooth... it's an '02, Lingenfelter supercharged, roughly 500hp at the crank (rear dynoed at 469). Would love to upgrade to the latest Z06, but have a wife and kids that pretty much ensure that isn't happening anytime soon.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
I'll be surprised if you manage to hold it to just 200%... still will be a squint fest I bet. :D.
My Z06 is getting long in tooth... it's an '02, Lingenfelter supercharged, roughly 500hp at the crank (rear dynoed at 469). Would love to upgrade to the latest Z06, but have a wife and kids that pretty much ensure that isn't happening anytime soon.
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Did LPE do the work?

I had a '00 LPE TT car that started life as a 650 version and went way up from there. I sold the car when it stopped scaring me, it flashed 00 when I was drunk one night on a public road. Told the guy that bought it the car would bite you before you even knew it, and that you really need to put a roll cage in it(over 1000 RWHP without a cage). Three days later the car exploded when it hit a bridge he and his pax were DRT(Dead right there). I don't care for LPE that much since John is gone, but they still make good cars from what I understand.
 
Seems like a lot of money to spend just so you can have the "retina" pixel doubling effect. I can't really imagine using this without 200% scaling.
 
EnhancedInterrogator said:
Most game engines have an internal scaler now, which can combine with things like TAA to get a very smooth look. Check out Titanfall 2's Adaptive Resolution option. It scales the resolution to keep the frame rate consistent, and it's actually hard to notice most of the time. I know I don't just speak for myself when I say I'd much rather go that route than sacrificing ambient occlusion or draw distance.
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I'd say you are very much speaking for yourself rather than most folks in in this forum if you are saying that you are willing to lay down $5K for the privealage of up-scaling select games on an 8K monitor and thinking that it is worth it. :D. I for one am not among that august group of like minded individuals. Look, I respect your opinion and all and it's been a great discussion, but nothing you have stated has swayed my opinion in the least as to preferring to run and match the [h]ardest core gpu performance I can own right now with the highest possible resolution it is capable of driving natively when it comes to gaming. I simply wouldn't want to buy more monitor than my gpu can drive adequately when it comes to gaming. I've got a heavily overclocked, waterblocked Titan XP and it's doing ok pushing a 4k monitor... but only just. Jumping to an 8k monitor for gaming simply isn't in the cards yet. GPU hardware has some catching up to do first.
 
VRT said:
Did LPE do the work?

I had a '00 LPE TT car that started life as a 650 version and went way up from there. I sold the car when it stopped scaring me, it flashed 00 when I was drunk one night on a public road. Told the guy that bought it the car would bite you before you even knew it, and that you really need to put a roll cage in it(over 1000 RWHP without a cage). Three days later the car exploded when it hit a bridge he and his pax were DRT(Dead right there). I don't care for LPE that much since John is gone, but they still make good cars from what I understand.
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Yup, LPE did the SC install along with ceramic coated long tube header and an x-pipe. I met the man himself and shook his hand when I picked it up. He bit the bucket like 6 months later... 3 months after his Chevy drag truck accident at the track. Shame as he was a really cool individual. 1000 rwhp is insane... anything over 500 in a street car is already way over the top. Ok, enough thread de-railing!

What's the delivery estimate on your 8K Dell?
 
Didn't want that used Triumph motorcycle anyway. Damn, this thing is twice as much as the high-end NEC I bought years ago. They actually called me and asked if I realized that it was $2500 before charging and shipping, lol.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
I'd say you are very much speaking for yourself rather than most folks in in this forum if you are saying that you are willing to lay down $5K for the privealage of up-scaling select games on an 8K monitor and thinking that it is worth it. :D.
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I'm looking more toward the future, when 8k/4k/dare I say 16k become competitive price-wise with lower-res monitors, sort of like 4k is now in the TV space.

And even your Titan XP can't push 4k and Ultra in quite a few games. So everybody's sacrificing something: resolution, effects, frame rate, etc.
 
I got a 32" 4K just before the new year and I'm *still* OCD'ing over not being able to find JUST the right native 4K wallpaper for it. An 8K? It would be hopeless ; ;
 
Martha Stewart said:
Dell.com shows this with a NON Glossy screen :(

WTF DELL why??!!!??? Your 5k is glossy why not your 8k :\
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The Dell 5K lists: In-plane switching, anti glare with hard coat 3H.

The Dell 8K lists: Anti-Reflective treatment of the front polarizer (2H)

I wonder if they truly removed it from being glossy which would be a damn shame. I guess it depends on what (Anti-Reflective treatment of the front polarizer (2H)) really means, which I fear is a "normal" AR LCD film as the top layer which would be a shame.
 
VRT said:
Did LPE do the work?

I had a '00 LPE TT car that started life as a 650 version and went way up from there. I sold the car when it stopped scaring me, it flashed 00 when I was drunk one night on a public road. Told the guy that bought it the car would bite you before you even knew it, and that you really need to put a roll cage in it(over 1000 RWHP without a cage). Three days later the car exploded when it hit a bridge he and his pax were DRT(Dead right there). I don't care for LPE that much since John is gone, but they still make good cars from what I understand.
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HOLY SHIT!!!

I had a 2001 Z06, pretty much stock was plenty for me haha. Was my favorite vette, replaced it with a 2007 Z51, but had way more fun with the Z06.

Back on topic, can't wait to hear thoughts on this sweet 8k. I had the 5k, but could not get past the 60hz refresh. Rockin a CF791 now.
 
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