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Two More Retail Ryzen 7 1700 Overclock Tested - Last week we headed out and purchased two retail Ryzen 7 1700 CPUs to see what 1700 processors purchased would attain in terms of overclocking. After that we went out and purchased two more retail 1700 CPUs to see what those would do overclocking-wise. After spending some time with those, we have a better picture of what to expect.
 
Nicely done Kyle!
Good to see there is no difference between a Malaysian sample vs. a Chinese sample.

OT wish I had both a Microcenter and a Frye's next to me.
The nearest Microcenter is a 2hr drive and the nearest Frye's is like over 400 miles. :mad:
 
bl4C3y3 said:
great stuff ! it is small things like this that make it interesting ... I hope to contribute soon, as my Ryzen 1700 + Asus Crosshair VI should be arriving at the end of this week :)


thx, I have this cooler in my current build (i7 3570K), so good to know it's a valid option for now

stupid question probably, but how do you know where the CPU comes from ? is it simply on the box ("made in"), or some marking on the CPU itself ?
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Stamped on the CPU heat spreader
 
bl4C3y3 said:
great stuff ! it is small things like this that make it interesting ... I hope to contribute soon, as my Ryzen 1700 + Asus Crosshair VI should be arriving at the end of this week :)


thx, I have this cooler in my current build (i5 3570K), so good to know it's a valid option for now

stupid question probably, but how do you know where the CPU comes from ? is it simply on the box ("made in"), or some marking on the CPU itself ?
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thanks both of you ... like I said, probably a stupid question :D, but I was curious
 
Meeho said:
Could you expand on this? I think many would be interested in your exact testing procedure and what qualifies as HardOCP stable certified OC.
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Did you watch the video?
 
Kyle with respect to you running two instances of handbrake, does one instance not able to stress all 8 cores 100% ?

Also just curious is the handbrake test in realbench same app as standalone handbrake (note never used standalone as i don't do video encoding).
 
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Meeho said:
No, I tend to stick to articles. Why two instances of Handbrake? Is one limited in its ability to use all cores?
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EdKiefer said:
Kyle with respect to you running two instances of handbrake, does one instance not able to stress all 8 cores 100% ?

Also just curious is the handbrake test in realbench same app as standalone handbrake (note never used standalone as i don't do video encoding).
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Because two stresses the CPU much more and has a lot more stress on the CPU to keep it 100% fully loaded.

Yes RealBench does run HandBrake. You would have to ask Asus about that exactly. RealBench has not been updated in a good while so I am fairly sure it is not the latest version.
 
I think what Kyle is getting at is the two instances are overkill, you get twice the request for threads instead of running a single process that looks for all threads.

Good in theory and I'm sure it works. For my personal testing I'm good with just one :)
 
I will have to try the double-trouble handbrake myself :)

What I do to push it down to its knees is also run multiple benchmarks together, like Kombustor to load the GPU and stress the power rails as much as I can along with prime95, that usually consumes 600w or more for the whole system ( measured with CL from AXi ).

If Kyle says most or any 1700 should run 3.8 fully stable it's a cornerstone statement for me. Anything higher is pure luck in the lottery...and a good cooler :p

With RealBench I only had bad luck on the Z270..I am not using it at all anymore as it even fails at stock settings when prime95 runs for hours and so does any GPU test stock settings. Must be RB being out-of-date imho, not the machine.
 
Would love to add to this discussion, but nobody's come out with an ITX board yet. CTFO, already, OEMs!
 
Realbench runs Blender, Luxmark, Handbrake, and 7-zip all at the same time. Luxmark loads the graphics card under OpenCL and the other three programs load the CPU and RAM.
 
Trimlock said:
I think what Kyle is getting at is the two instances are overkill,
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The HWBot X265 bench will run in Overkill mode, put in in 4K and 4X overkill and it throws a decent load - I don't have it in front of me, you might be able to do more than 4X overkill, I usually do 4X. And as it takes longer to run the more time overkill you set it to, it can be used as a quickie stress test. The downside is that you have to enable the HPET timer, and I think that is a drawback on Ryzen.

http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hwbot_x265_benchmark_-_4k/
 
Has anybody been able to get it running on a Reeven Justice yet to see how that goes? I don't know if they're sending out the adapters yet or not. I'm running my 1700x under water, but I haven't had time to play with overclocks with my work/life schedule lately.
 
CAD4466HK said:
OT wish I had both a Microcenter and a Frye's next to me.
The nearest Microcenter is a 2hr drive and the nearest Frye's is like over 400 miles. :mad:
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Then you'll really hate us Dallas folks, since we have 1x MC, and 3x Fry's (Plano, Dallas, Irving) accessible! :p
(4x Fry's if you count Arlington)
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
Then you'll really hate us Dallas folks, since we have 1x MC, and 3x Fry's (Plano, Dallas, Irving) accessible! :p
(4x Fry's if you count Arlington)
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I loved living down there. I lived in FW just on the border of Arlington. We have a MicroCenter up here in SE Michigan, but I'd KILL for a Fry's... So many open box deals on stuff I always want.
 
WhoBeDaPlaya said:
Then you'll really hate us Dallas folks, since we have 1x MC, and 3x Fry's (Plano, Dallas, Irving) accessible! :p
(4x Fry's if you count Arlington)
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Us po folk here in the tri-state area of KY are so far away, we can't even spell Fry's right, to be fair I moved here a year ago from FL.
 
mnewxcv said:
would you say the 1700 can OC to 1800x speeds using the wraith cooler?
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It can go to 1800x non-boost/xfr speeds on the Wraith - around 3.7 on all cores. I'm getting that at 1.2v but temps get into the low 70's under stress testing. You're not getting much more than that without a better cooler.
 
How many of you are using IntelBurnBench? For me it is a killer on maximum and takes my 3.8ghz 1700x to the a light show or blue screen with 1.4v LLC 2. It will pass on Standard settings but not Maximum. Same OC settings have no problem with Aida 64 stress test, gaming or looping 3dmark while doing other stuff. Is IBT really just a buggy program for Ryzen to use since it uses some rather old .net files?
 
noko said:
How many of you are using IntelBurnBench? For me it is a killer on maximum and takes my 3.8ghz 1700x to the a light show or blue screen with 1.4v LLC 2. It will pass on Standard settings but not Maximum. Same OC settings have no problem with Aida 64 stress test, gaming or looping 3dmark while doing other stuff. Is IBT really just a buggy program for Ryzen to use since it uses some rather old .net files?
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There seems to be quite a few people in other forums that swear by IBT for ultimate stress for Ryzen.
But on the other hand these are also the same people who are claiming to have burnt VRM's and torched IMC's.
So take that for WIW.

Reminds me of the times when peeps were frying AXP's with CPUBurn. :p
 
CAD4466HK said:
There seems to be quite a few people in other forums that swear by IBT for ultimate stress for Ryzen.
But on the other hand these are also the same people who are claiming to have burnt VRM's and torched IMC's.
So take that for WIW.

Reminds me of the times when peeps were frying AXP's with CPUBurn. :p
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It really reminds me more of furmark that was pointless for GPU testing since it never reflected any kind of actual gaming load or compute loads.
 
noko said:
It really reminds me more of furmark that was pointless for GPU testing since it never reflected any kind of actual gaming load or compute loads.
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True that, and what was really funny is when AMD & Nvidia issued firmware to throttle when they detected Furmark.
There was some crying going on @ Anantech and Tom's after that for sure. :cry:
 
So Kyle, since your still on board the AMD bandwagon, does this mean you will use/build a new Ryzen rig for your personal use?

And hey at least you don't have to delid it either! LOL
 
Motley said:
So Kyle, since your still on board the AMD bandwagon, does this mean you will use/build a new Ryzen rig for your personal use?

And hey at least you don't have to delid it either! LOL
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I actually thought that when I read the article. Kyle, are you willing to do what some other relatively high-profile people are doing and use a Ryzen rig as your main workstation rig for a month or two?
 
SImply asking, why wouldnt one want to use it with the obvious advantage over Intel ? The only thing that could hold hardcore professionals back are the unripe UEFI's and RAM issues...nothing a Pro cant fiddle out if he wants to go that route.

I am looking forward to see Intels Financial Report for the 1st half of 2017, there we will see how hard it hit them and how many must have moved to AMD causing that revenue drop, that will be present, I am utmost confident there is dropping curve in that chart.
 
BitMaster said:
I am looking forward to see Intels Financial Report for the 1st half of 2017, there we will see how hard it hit them and how many must have moved to AMD causing that revenue drop, that will be present
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IIRC Intel makes most of their money from enterprise customers, so I doubt that Ryzen will make a significant dent in their overall revenue, or even a measurable dent TBH. I'm SURE that AMD will see a rather large percentage jumo though. :)
 
Medion already moved to AMD is in thier rigs being sold at ALDI...just one of the big sellers in europe that I know that turned away from Intzel this week, and more will follow. I doubt this is a non-issue for Intel.

Once the Ryzen Pro-chips come out the dent will be surely visible...says my miracle glass :)

I`d buy AMD stocks if I had some left over gambling coins
 
BitMaster said:
Medion already moved to AMD is in thier rigs being sold at ALDI...just one of the big sellers in europe that I know that turned away from Intzel this week, and more will follow. I doubt this is a non-issue for Intel.

Once the Ryzen Pro-chips come out the dent will be surely visible...says my miracle glass :)

I`d buy AMD stocks if I had some left over gambling coins
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Still says Intel on everything. Why is that?

http://www.medion.com/us/aldi.php
 
In Ryzen Master if I set a clock speed of 3.5ghz I have noticed that CPU-Z and Task Manager both show 3.42ghz under load.

Also when not under stress testing/load CPU-Z still shows 3.42ghz whereas Task Manager drops back down to around 3.1ghz.

I assume this is normal?
 
ZeroBarrier said:
Still says Intel on everything. Why is that?

http://www.medion.com/us/aldi.php
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I read that news on "iirc" Tom's page. Wait and see, soon you will read AMD in ALDI.

The article showed 3 new models based on 1800x, 1700x and 1700 being sold soon.


*also, this is ALDI Germany, dont know how this will be in the stateside ALDI's.

ALDI is splitt into south and north ALDI, dunno which one moved to AMD ( maybe both I assume ), its the ALDI family having splitt the market decades ago and I have no idea which one went to the US.


edit*:
https://www.heise.de/newsticker/mel...starke-Komplett-PCs-ab-1200-Euro-3670076.html
 
Motley said:
So Kyle, since your still on board the AMD bandwagon, does this mean you will use/build a new Ryzen rig for your personal use?

And hey at least you don't have to delid it either! LOL
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Actually I just built a new system for my main box a few weeks ago since I was doing all this 4K video editing and encoding. Had two 6950s here so I used one of those. In my signature.
 
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