Hackintosh so complicated :(

passion4tech

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Geez creating a hackintosh machine is more complicated than I thought :( I just want straight forward help for my specific computer which has a asus z97 deluxe & r9 290. I have a couple questions, How can I simply install yosemite hackintosh world on my 256 gb ssd with windows 7 currently installed on it? I just simply want to build a hackintosh machine with dual boot windows 7 & yosemite on same ssd. Which version of Yosemite Hackintosh is most stable 10.10.3 or older?
 
Discussion of such things is frowned on around here, you're better off going to tonymacx86.com or insanelymac.com lest you incur the wrath of the Admins/Mods - I'm sure this thread will disappear soon enough. ;)
 
Lifehacker has great articles on hackintoshes.
Other than that, because they violate the terms of agreement with Apple and their software, it is not to be discussed here.
 
This is one of the reasons why getting a real Mac is worth the price of admission. And also why it makes sense that OSX is a closed system. Because supporting all this hardware is basically impossible.
 
what tib said. you cant just use any old system, you have to build a system for it. go do your research.
 
Hackintosh is cute to get running, you get a chance to learn about kexts and some of the underlying mechanics of the OS. At the end of the day though, it's not something one reasonably attempts to use for any kind of production work. They get it kinda working, consider working, basic 2-channel sound to be an accomplishment, and then scrap it and install a more supported OS. Then they buy a Mac.
 
Hackintosh's are a PITA. At the end of the day it's easier to install Ubuntu Mate and tweak it to look the same. Everything's legal and many applications are available cross platform.

Except Adobe products, even the CIA ported their software to Linux faster than Adobe.
 
There are actually a lot of hacking guides out there where you can legally hack Apple Hardware to great benefit to yourself while saving a lot of money.

Buying a used 2013 'trashcan' Mac and upgrading the cpu, memory and storage solution yourself is one of the most popular hacks out there.

There are also firmware hacks you can look into.

Also, you should be able to talk about the hardware aspect of a hackintosh on Hardocp as long as you avoid talk about the OS, I'm guessing but maybe not.

There are some excellent guides out there on 'parts lists' that will give you 100% Apple comparability.

But the truth of the matter is, I doubt you will find much of Apple community here on Hardocp to start with that's going to be able to offer much help. If you insist then I would ask in your posts to be contacted privately.

As long as you show respect toward the rules here on Hardocp while in-directly asking for help, you should remain under the radar.

BTW, I've built a few high-end hackintoshes at the request of my PC clients and they are not that hard to build and config properly. Despite what some have said on this tread about not achieving 100% compatibility, that's absolutely not true. You can.

With that said, I do not have time to help you, but .. good luck.
 
This is one of the reasons why getting a real Mac is worth the price of admission. And also why it makes sense that OSX is a closed system. Because supporting all this hardware is basically impossible.
Not really impossible by any means. Microsoft has been doing it for decades. In fact they've even made the exact same OS work on tablets and full blown pc's.

Apple just realizes it makes more sense to support and stock replacement parts for only certain hardware. Microsoft is not in the hardware game like Apple is. Microsoft makes the rules. You want to use their software which is run on most of the world's computers? Design your hardware to be compatible. Apple does not have that influence.
 
As long as your hardware is compatible and you do your research, you can have a rock solid 100% working machine up in a weekend.

I've personally been running Hackintosh as my daily driver since 2011 (Snow Leopard days) and have had zero issues. Also built many for friends/family (pro bono due to legal issues with the whole thing) that have been rock solid through the years. Is it as "nice" as a real Mac? No, and you might have to wait a couple weeks when a new OS comes out to make sure everything is kosher, but it's well worth it to me to pay 40% of the price of a Mac and have 150% performance of an iMac and have the ability to change my CPU/GPU/RAM at any time (because I like to tinker).
 
Not really impossible by any means. Microsoft has been doing it for decades. In fact they've even made the exact same OS work on tablets and full blown pc's.

Apple just realizes it makes more sense to support and stock replacement parts for only certain hardware. Microsoft is not in the hardware game like Apple is. Microsoft makes the rules. You want to use their software which is run on most of the world's computers? Design your hardware to be compatible. Apple does not have that influence.

This is a very simplistic and not entirely accurate representation of the situation.

First, each of the major hardware vendors fights hand over fist to work with Apple.
The hardware contracts for nVidia vs AMD based graphics chips going to Apple is worth 100s of millions of dollars.
Intel for several generations of machines has given first priority on launch to Apple (meaning Apple received all the first batches of chips before any other OEM partner).
Intel also has designed quite a few hardware specifications along with Apple, not least of which is Thunderbolt.
When Apple more or less "complained" to Intel that they were not providing processors with low enough TDP to performance, Intel 'met their whim'.
Samsung who "hates Apple" for some reason "gladly" provides plenty of RAM and SSD's for their laptops and desktops (and also phones, but that isn't relevant to this conversation... in fact, as another side note, the iPhone is more profitable to Samsung than their own Galaxy line of phones).

To say that Apple doesn't "have enough influence" is a gross misrepresentation of their ability. If Apple opened up OSX tomorrow, I guarantee every hardware manufacturer on the planet that has any relevance in the productivity market would be clamoring to build parts for their newly opened system.
It is the other way around. Apple has a closed system to meet their ends. They don't have an interest in supporting large amounts of hardware because it's not profitable and it needlessly costs a lot of money to develop for (especially as a design constrain in their systems is that they "just work" and/or work flawlessly with minimal to no fussing).

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And Microsoft IS in the hardware game. The best hardware that is available on the Windows platform is all Microsoft based (opinion: me). Mainly the Surface Studio and Surface 4/Book. They realized they had to be, because their hardware partners were making crapboxes (opinion: me). They also had a similar revelation on the Windows 8/10 phone platforms. Although at this point they have more or less foolishly abandoned them (side note, also opinion: me.)
 
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You have to do your research prior to buying your parts if you want a trouble free installation. You're looking for specific sound chips, network chips, and video cards. It's not, "I have this hardware and let me install OSX now."
 
There are actually a lot of hacking guides out there where you can legally hack Apple Hardware to great benefit to yourself while saving a lot of money.

Buying a used 2013 'trashcan' Mac and upgrading the cpu, memory and storage solution yourself is one of the most popular hacks out there.

I'm intrigued by this, but man I hate paying such high prices for 2013 tech. I really wish they would refine the product, or at least refresh.

I have been using a 2010 Mac Pro that I bought as a refurb base quad 6-7 years ago. I've replaced CPU, GPU, storage, RAM, Wifi/Bluetooth, SATA controller... essentially everything that can be upgraded. Unfortunately I think it's developing motherboard issues and I really just want to replace it.
 
If you hackintosh, decide to hackintosh first ... then buy parts that work / are known to be compatible.

Much easier that way over trying to install OSX onto whatever parts you happen to have laying around.
 
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If you hackintosh, decide to hackintosh first ... then buy parts that work / are compatible.

Much easier that way over trying to install OSX onto whatever parts you happen to have laying around.


Or just buy an old iMac off craigslist. I'd say get a mac mini, but the damn cloud people scarf those up instantly.
 
I haven't totally given up on the Mac Pro refresh but am continuing down a path where the old MP goes to storage for occasional headless access. I'll work to move from OSX to Windows. :-(

I've done the Hackintosh thing before and it was ok, but my current hardware wouldn't work well. There are definitely no all-in-ones in my future.
 
Please help I'm stuck at PCI Configuration begins. I can't type any bootflags. The screen is frozen my keyboard won't type anything :(
 
I just bought a Classic mid-2010 Mac Pro and I'm running Sierra. Search your local CL for listings.
It's easier, cheaper and reliable to just do that. Keep the PC for dedicated gaming and other Windows tasks.
 
I just bought a Classic mid-2010 Mac Pro and I'm running Sierra. Search your local CL for listings.
It's easier, cheaper and reliable to just do that. Keep the PC for dedicated gaming and other Windows tasks.

That's what I've been using since 2010 and the thing has become flaky. It seems to be related to USB mostly, but peripherals won't appear or will disappear until a reboot. I'm getting random hard locks with nothing in the logs. :-( If I knew for sure a new motherboard would fix it then I'd just do it.
 
That's what I've been using since 2010 and the thing has become flaky. It seems to be related to USB mostly, but peripherals won't appear or will disappear until a reboot. I'm getting random hard locks with nothing in the logs. :-( If I knew for sure a new motherboard would fix it then I'd just do it.

Go to an Apple store an have them run a diagnostic.
 
I've got a 2012 Mac Mini, which I honestly believe is the best of the all round Mac's ever made. It cost me ~$500.00 AU second hand and I upgraded it to 8GB of ram and a home made fusion drive by adding an SSD, great little machine! When I actually use it. Most of my computing needs are taken care of on a Dell Optiplex T5500 running dual X5675 Xeon's and 24GB of ram with an SSD for the OS, two 1TB drives for /home and /storage and an Nvidia GTX 680 under Ubuntu MATE 16.04.
 
I have ran Hackintoshes for a long time(over 8 years) and as long as you follow the hardware recommendations at a site such as TonyMac it is easy! I wouldn't attempt it on a laptop myself, I do have a MBP the main reason I run a Hackintosh is that I can get more power out of one.
 
I used multibeast & I keep getting stuck at apple logo loading screen. I tried everything changing bios settings you name it & issue still persists. Is yosemite having issue with r9 290 what is going on here? :(
 
Excellent news everyone I successfully built a hackintosh computer dual booting windows 7 & yosemite on same ssd. :) It was not easy building a hackintosh believe me. It was trial & error. Finally after hours & hours of work I finally did it :)

I want to thank all the people who have helped me on the forums. I appreciate you very much :)

This video really helped me a lot as well.



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What is your confidence level on patches and updates? I'm scared to even patch my Mac Pro 2.1 that's running Yosemite (with firmware hack).
 
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