NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Video Card Review @ [H]

Excellent review! Thanks! That's MY card. I'll F5 you off the internet!

Performing a DDoS attack. Right there.

I'll admit that I've been "F5"ing the fuck out of the nVidia Store...

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If this is the first 4k card, where do you leave the Titan X? While the TI is a little bit faster overall its not like it handles 4k games much better if at all.
 
The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti has less ROPs than the TITAN X, but a higher clock frequency. In the end, it appears clock frequency is the winning formula.

I wonder if that means a Titan X Ti is on the way.
 
I'll pick up two next month. Even though I want stock cards, I still would like to see everything from the AIB's before making a decision.
 
I wonder if that means a Titan X Ti is on the way.

I seriously doubt it. If they did the same improvements to power and such, you'd probably only see 2-3% increase over the existing Titan X. Since the 1080Ti is about equal to the current Titan X, that means you'd be trying to charge a $500 premium for 2-3% more FPS.

The 1080Ti has already killed any future sales of Titan X, a small improvement won't change that fact.
 
Finally the High end card which isn't titan.
And not the "Midrange disguised as a top of the range card namely 1080"

I have never seen such a big card created for nothing, half of the space wasn't needed at all and probably created just to market it, but this TI is what this generation is about!
 
It was fun seeing a Ryzen 1700 with 1080ti, odd but sweet.

It's really not that odd at all. Back in the day we ran lots of Athlon 64 CPUs on nForce 4 chipset based motherboards paired with NVIDIA GPU's in SLI. My dual CPU Opteron 254 machine ran dual 7800GTX GPUs in SLI. It wasn't until AMD started making their own chipsets and NVIDIA bowed out of the chipset market altogether that NVIDIA GPUs on AMD based systems became an unusual sight.
 
Well this is a punch right in my AMD-fanboy nuts....

RX480 is still rolling fine for my 1080p needs but I was hoping to toss Vega in my Ryzen build this summer....but man...this is NOT going to be easy to compete with.
 
Well this is a punch right in my AMD-fanboy nuts....

RX480 is still rolling fine for my 1080p needs but I was hoping to toss Vega in my Ryzen build this summer....but man...this is NOT going to be easy to compete with.

Vega might surprise us but it seems as though its a long way off.
 
During my lunch I cruised through a few other 1080 Ti reviews and lifted some select "conclusions" quotes from each of them for you to peruse.. except nothing from PCPer.com as "Rowdy" Ryan probably just copied Brent's review anyway!!


TechSpot
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When compared to the original 1080, the new Ti model was on average 22% faster at 4K. The new card will be coming in at around 40% more expensive, too, but that’s the premium you pay for high-end gaming and with no alternative there’s no need for Nvidia to be more aggressive on pricing, at least for now.


Ars Technica
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It's around 30 percent faster than a GTX 1080, and as much as 60 percent faster than a GTX 1070 at 1080p. More importantly, it's 70 percent faster than a GTX 980 Ti, and offers over double the performance of a GTX 980. At 4K, the GTX 1080 Ti is the first card outside of a Titan X to consistently throw out an average FPS above 60 at the highest settings.


Eurogamer.net
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It's possible to enjoy full native 4K resolution with 60fps gameplay on the likes of Forza Horizon 3, Battlefield 1, Gears of War 4, Titanfall 2 and Watch Dogs 2 with only minimal tweaking - and the experience is nothing short of epic. In this sense, the 31 per cent performance uplift we measured here translates into a feeling of much more when you're actually sat at your PC playing games on a 4K display. if we're looking to run those console-level 4K titles at full-fat 60Hz, we're still going to need raw power, and for now at least, the GTX 1080 Ti is the only card worth considering.


PCGamer
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The 1080 costs 43 percent more than the 1070 and outperforms it by about 25 percent—not perfectly linear scaling, but much better than the previous 60 percent price premium. The 1080 Ti meanwhile costs 40 percent more than the GTX 1080 and performs—in GPU limited scenarios—about 30-35 percent faster. With many new games failing to support SLI/CrossFire, I usually recommend getting the fastest single GPU you can afford.


AnandTech
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GeForce GTX 1080 Ti: Average Performance Gains

vs. GTX 1080
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+32% (4K)
+28% (1400p)

vs. GTX 980 Ti
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+74% (4K)
+68% (1440p)

vs. GTX 780 Ti
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+154% (4K)
+154% (1440p)


PCGamesN.com
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..all you need to know is Nvidia have created a graphics card with all the power of their flagship Titan X for almost half the price. So yeah, for all your 4K needs look no further. Shouldn’t have really bothered writing all that other stuff, should I? This could've just been a 140 character Twitter review... The straight GTX 1080's recently-announced price drop, however, makes that a far more tempting GPU for anyone not yet looking to make the move to 4K. At 1440p and 1080p the GTX 1080 is more than enough GPU for even the most discerning of gamers. And even at 4K it still manages some pretty healthy frame rates, especially if you're smart with your graphics and post-processing settings.


TomsHardware
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A $700 GeForce GTX 1080 Ti makes a $1200 Titan X look pretty ridiculous. Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition simultaneously ascends the throne as a new performance king and extends Titan X-class performance to gamers for $500 less. There is a lot to like if you want to enjoy your favorite games on a 4K monitor, with a fast-refresh QHD display, or in virtual reality. Although some of Nvidia’s board partners will offer 1080 Tis with bigger coolers and less noise, its Founders Edition card remains a favorite for its ability to exhaust waste heat.



PCWorld
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Nvidia’s monstrous graphics card solidly trounces the GTX 1080 by an average of 25.8 percent in our five-game suite.. More crucially, this is the first semi-affordable video card capable of hitting the sacred 60fps mark at 4K resolution with all of a game’s graphical bells and whistles jacked to the max. This video card is tremendous overkill for most 1080p gaming, but if you’re shopping around for a no-compromises 4K gaming solution or a premium card capable of pumping out a large amount of frames on a high-refresh 1440p monitor, buy the GTX 1080 Ti


Gamespot
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When I take the average of my 16 benchmarks, the GTX 1080 Ti performs 30.2 percent better than the GTX 1080. That’s lower than Nvidia’s lofty 35 percent claim, but it’s important to keep in mind that this is a card that’s geared for higher resolutions, like 3840x2160p. At 4K, the Ti beat the GTX 1080 by a stunning 53 percent in my tests.


ExtremeTech
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The Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti isn’t just a faster GPU than anything we’ve seen at this price point before, it’s also the first genuine 4K GPU I’d argue we’ve ever seen on the market. As of today, the GTX 1080 Ti is the first GPU that can drive 4K at 60 FPS or above with little-to-no need to turn down visual settings. That’s worth a recommendation all on its own. If your primary display is a 1080p or 1440p panel and you don’t plan to upgrade for at least the next 12 months, I wouldn’t buy a 1080 Ti right now. By the time you’re ready to pull the trigger on a monitor that would benefit from a card like this, Vega (and possibly even Nvidia’s next-generation Volta) will both be in-market.


TechPowerUp
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When averaged over our bench suite at 4K resolution, the card ends up 35% faster than the GTX 1080 - more than what the difference between GTX 980 Ti and GTX 980 was. Only few games require slightly reduced settings. Even though Titan X has 12 GB VRAM, the 1 GB difference really is irrelevant. We barely have any titles today that use more than 6 GB VRAM, so 11 GB will have you covered for a long time going forward.

Pros
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Faster than Titan X Pascal
Power efficient
11 GB VRAM
Backplate included
New NVIDIA technologies:
DP-to-DVI adapter included
HDMI 2.0b, DisplayPort 1.4

Cons
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Noisy in gaming
Fans don't turn off in idle
Costly
Cooler runs into temperature limit


TweakTown
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VIDIA's new GeForce GTX 1080 Ti easily handles the GTX 1080, offering at least 20-25% more performance across the board, and in 4K gaming - the performance gap grows. The 11Gbps of bandwidth on that wider 352-bit memory bus on the tweaked GDDR5X really flexes its muscles on the GTX 1080 Ti at 1440p and 4K. As I was benchmarking the GTX 1080 Ti, I realized something: I'm in dire need of a new 5K monitor to really push these new graphics cards ADVERTISEMENT .

NVIDIA hasn't shifted to using HBM2 on consumer graphics cards yet, but do they need to? With 11Gbps of bandwidth from GDDR5X, there's no reason to - unless they have a gigantic hammer to swing - which I think they do, and it will crush High Bandwidth Cache. HBC is a large part of the Vega GPU architecture from AMD - which are using HBM2 on the Radeon RX Vega series of graphics cards. NVIDIA has just trumped them with a massive 484GB/sec of memory bandwidth on the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti without using HBM2, all for $699 - with partner cards in all shapes and sizes to come very soon. If you're an enthusiast right now, you're blinded by GeForce products left, right, and center. The more exciting thing is where to for NVIDIA from here... the GTX 1080 Ti crushes everything right now, so what is in store for us with Volta?



Guru3D
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The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti is the Titan X in disguise.. if you are a 1080P or even 1440P gamer, you are probably and economically better off with a GeForce GTX 1070 or 1080, really. These cards just make the most sense. But then again, you've seen the numbers, for Ultra HD gamers and even 2560x1440 gamers this product works out well, really well.



GamersNexus
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As for the “Founders Edition” card specifically, it’s still a reference model. Its name sounds fancier and its design looks better, but the thing doesn’t cool well for the GPU core. FET cooling is impressive and competitive, to be fair, but the core is where we encounter limitations on clock-rate as imposed by thermals. This is part of why we couldn’t replicate nVidia’s boasted 2038MHz boost with <80C thermals – you’d need a screaming loud fan to do that, and we don’t consider that usable. That’s potentially misleading marketing and isn’t new to a Pascal launch, with the GTX 1080 being similarly demonstrated during last year’s Epic Games demo. We also had trouble to replicate those findings under usable conditions.

Performance headroom is limited with this cooler if trying to maintain a lower noise profile, and we strongly recommend that you don’t buy a reference design unless there’s a specific need for a reference PCB. We know that EK has some waterblocks on the way for the reference board, and that’s a scenario where it makes more sense. Otherwise, just wait on the partner models. Most of them will use better cooler designs and custom PCBs.

If you don’t need an upgrade now, today, consider waiting. If you’re looking to upgrade in the immediate future, the GTX 1080 Ti is a strong performer with ~30% uplift over a 1080 in some titles at 4K, just know that it’s not entirely necessary. The 35% metric is… dependent on a few factors. Dig through our numbers for a better representation of improvements. 4K, though, we did see pretty damn close to that mark.

Still, it’s tough to be mad about a $500 GTX 1080. If the 1080 Ti doesn’t explicitly fill a need (e.g. 1440p/144Hz, or max settings at 4K), consider the cheaper alternative.

And tear that cooler off.
 
I wonder if that means a Titan X Ti is on the way.

No point with Volta coming up as the next architecture in late 2017/early 2018. They'd still have to charge more than $700 for a new "better" card that'll only have any meaningful market share for a few months and potentially sacrifice some volta titan sales to do it since not everyone willing to drop "Titan" levels of cash is going to keep doing it every 6 months, plus it would cannibalize any sales of the existing titan models possibly before inventory is cleared out, which isn't the best idea to leave such an expensive product warming shelves.
 
If Vega ends up a disappointment, then this will be my next card. In fact if all we hear is crickets from AMD, I might not even wait. This is the sort of performance I have been waiting for.
 
Not to start a fire, but is hte 1080Ti really 11GB or is it like 10+1 alas the GTX970
 
Vega might surprise us but it seems as though its a long way off.

I hope so....or at the very least if it can't compete one-one that it's at least at a competitive price point wherever it slots in. I'd love to be able to have a real VR capable AMD card (I mean, beyond of course my VR READY RX480, of course!).....
 
This is what I should've waited for instead of getting 1080 for $699. Oh well, first and last time I did that mistake. Either x70 or x80ti only from now on. Btw, quite different 4k delta with 1080 depending on the review from the post above. Some claim 30%, while one review says it's 50% more in 4K.
 
This is what I should've waited for instead of getting 1080 for $699. Oh well, first and last time I did that mistake. Either x70 or x80ti only from now on.

The 1080 is 10 months old now. There's all kinds of opinions on price/performance ratios, acceptable longevity, etc. but at nearly a year, and no way of knowing exactly how easy it will be to obtain the 1080 Ti theoretically starting tomorrow, I think 10 months isn't unreasonable amount of time before a major product bump. And it's not like the 1080 won't still be the 3rd fastest card on the market.
 
The 1080 is 10 months old now. There's all kinds of opinions on price/performance ratios, acceptable longevity, etc. but at nearly a year, and no way of knowing exactly how easy it will be to obtain the 1080 Ti theoretically starting tomorrow, I think 10 months isn't unreasonable amount of time before a major product bump. And it's not like the 1080 won't still be the 3rd fastest card on the market.

My e-peen is not gonna be the same any more :D

Well, I personally think i rushed a bit with buying 1440p 144Hz G-sync monitor in May and thus needed an upgrade, so getting 1080 in June was a good idea as I needed performance for that res. But I probably could still be rocking my 970 with 1080p 144Hz g-sync monitor for another year if I had a bit more patience. Cause tbh 970 is still 1080p capable card, especially with g-sync.
 
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The 1080 is 10 months old now. There's all kinds of opinions on price/performance ratios, acceptable longevity, etc. but at nearly a year, and no way of knowing exactly how easy it will be to obtain the 1080 Ti theoretically starting tomorrow, I think 10 months isn't unreasonable amount of time before a major product bump. And it's not like the 1080 won't still be the 3rd fastest card on the market.

You can also look at it this way: If you bought a GTX 1080 at $599 or whatever before, and you buy a GTX 1080Ti now you are basically paying the same amount of money as the Titan X Pascal guys did and enjoyed some of the fastest gaming performance possible during what will likely be a 1.5 - 2.0+ year time frame. The GTX 1080 was faster than the Maxwell Titan X when it launched. The Titan X (Pascal) came out at $1,200 and could rarely be found so cheaply. If anything, your saving money and breaking that cost up over a longer period than you would having bought a Titan X to begin with.
 
You can also look at it this way: If you bought a GTX 1080 at $599 or whatever before, and you buy a GTX 1080Ti now you are basically paying the same amount of money as the Titan X Pascal guys did and enjoyed some of the fastest gaming performance possible during what will likely be a 1.5 - 2.0+ year time frame. The GTX 1080 was faster than the Maxwell Titan X when it launched. The Titan X (Pascal) came out at $1,200 and could rarely be found so cheaply. If anything, your saving money and breaking that cost up over a longer period than you would having bought a Titan X to begin with.

Totally agree. And the 1080 is still a great card, the Ti is simply significantly better for the same price 10 months later. Nothing new in hardware. I'm in for two but I'm guessing it's going to take while before the demand and supply equalize.
 
So for those that purchased a Titan X (P) for $1200+ how do you feel about being cut off at the knees by the $699 1080ti? Personally, I'd be f'ing livid..........
 
So for those that purchased a Titan X (P) for $1200+ how do you feel about being cut off at the knees by the $699 1080ti? Personally, I'd be f'ing livid..........

Why? This cycle has been going for what, about three years now? If you have the Titan XP yeah you paid $1200 but you got this performance last August, assuming that's when you bought.
 
So for those that purchased a Titan X (P) for $1200+ how do you feel about being cut off at the knees by the $699 1080ti? Personally, I'd be f'ing livid..........

If you're livid about this, you have no idea of history, since this happens every Ti release. All the Titan X buyers knew this would happen. They were willing to spend the cash at the time to have the top of the line card..
 
Solid review as ever, from the looks of it this chip is just as limited due to vRel as every other 10x0/titan though.

My 1070 is on water and crying for board limit changes. Gimme a 10x0 BIOS editor so I can up get this chip properly overclocked as my gpu is positively chilly at the moment (already done the resistor bridge near the 8 pin mod but want more from this card).

If 1080ti's come out with full voltage control so they are not just vRel limited it means:-

1. It's one bass-add card for 4K and other gaming for a long time.
2. They are totally bricking it over Vega.

Nvidia have done us no favors by dumping 'Founder's rip-off' pricing and lowering the 1080's price. Thank you AMD for the competition.... about bloomin' time.
 
So for those that purchased a Titan X (P) for $1200+ how do you feel about being cut off at the knees by the $699 1080ti? Personally, I'd be f'ing livid..........


If someone has the cash to get a single component for 1.2k, then 8 months later something else comes out faster and cheaper which is the normal course of tech anyways, why would they be disappointed?

They want the best of the best, and have the money to get the best of the best, its up to them how they spend their money, Titan X was always that, get the best and you pay more for it.
 
I wonder if this is a paper launch or if they will actually have some quantity to sell at the MSRP price. I remember when the 1080 came out, most of the time you couldn't buy one at all, and if you could you paid $$$$ more than list price unless you were really lucky.
 
They should have decent quanity at least for the founder's edition, not sure about the board partner versions though.
 
Is the Titan X (P) still in production and if so shouldn't the msrp drop below $699? I mean the 1080ti is a beast of a value, who would buy a Titan X (P) at this point? For those that bought one in the last 1-3 months I'd return that bitch stat.
 
I'm down in a couple months for one. That ftw3 card from EVGA is what I'm after. I am wondering how much my aging system might hold it back though. o_O
 
Is the Titan X (P) still in production and if so shouldn't the msrp drop below $699? I mean the 1080ti is a beast of a value, who would buy a Titan X (P) at this point? For those that bought one in the last 1-3 months I'd return that bitch stat.


yes the Titan XP has become irrelevant so nV is eating away at its own profits, unlike older Titans, this Titan doesn't even have the extra memory that set it away from the other boards.
 
AnandTech
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GeForce GTX 1080 Ti: Average Performance Gains

vs. GTX 980 Ti
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+74% (4K)
+68% (1440p)

This is what I needed to read. So the 1080 Ti is about as fast as the 980 Ti (and thus my Maxwell Titan Xs) in SLI, though I note there's no checking if the 980 Ti is VRAM-limited or not. It looks like I'll be getting the Volta Titan X next year.
 
Within a year or two we will probably see this level of performance trickle down to the mainstream.

I suspect the GTX1170 when that comes out will have 1080Ti performance for ~$329 to $400. In other words, this means mainstream 4K gaming is right around the corner.
 
yes the Titan XP has become irrelevant so nV is eating away at its own profits, unlike older Titans, this Titan doesn't even have the extra memory that set it away from the other boards.

In the past the Titan always had more CUDA cores and more VRAM so that it excelled under compute tasks and certain situations over the more gaming focused Ti type cards. In a way the Titan cards have always been a prosumer offering that sat between a GeForce and a Quadro. In this case it looks like the 1080Ti is a updated and somewhat more cost effective version of the Titan that's half the price. It makes very little sense as it eliminates any reason to buy the existing stock of Titan X (Pascal) cards.
 
Not to start a fire, but is hte 1080Ti really 11GB or is it like 10+1 alas the GTX970
The 1080 Ti is a cut GP102 and NVIDIA is accurately advertising it as such. I made this point in the discussion thread in the NVIDIA section:
See, this is the part that everyone is missing with this release. The 1080 Ti is actually being accurately marketed thanks to the 970 fiasco. Remember that the 970 also had 8 of 64 ROPs disabled, but it was still advertised as a 64 ROP, 256-bit 4GB card when it was a 56 ROP, 224-bit 3.5GB card. If the fiasco didn't happen then NVIDIA would probably still be advertising the 1080 Ti as a 96 ROP, 384-bit 12 GB card instead of 88 ROP, 352-bit 11GB.
Is the Titan X (P) still in production and if so shouldn't the msrp drop below $699? I mean the 1080ti is a beast of a value, who would buy a Titan X (P) at this point? For those that bought one in the last 1-3 months I'd return that bitch stat.
The Titan X is still a fully enabled GP102 part. Lower yields means higher price.
 
At 528GB/sec the memory bandwidth is higher and faster than the memory bandwidth of HBM1 memory on the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X which has a memory bandwidth of 512GB/sec.

IS NOTHING SACRED?!?!

"Give them nothing, but take from them EVERYTHING"
 
The 1080 Ti is a cut GP102 and NVIDIA is accurately advertising it as such. I made this point in the discussion thread in the NVIDIA section:


The Titan X is still a fully enabled GP102 part. Lower yields means higher price.

According to the specs the, only thing the Titan X has over the GTX 1080Ti is the ROPS. So while the 1080Ti is a cut down G102, it's cut down and run at clock speeds that make any points about it not being fully enabled moot. So far we've seen nothing to justify the Titan X's continued existence in the market.
 
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