LG G6 introduction at MWC 2017

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Live stream link here which should kick in any second now (it's just after 2AM Pacific time on February 26th):



Most of the info is already available I suppose but I honestly haven't been all that interested, will comment after the event if there's anything positive to say, at least from my perspective. Would guess after it's all done they'll offer it as a recording of the event at the same link, if not then I'll update that as well if needed.

Just looping promos till it begins, the countdown timer clearly showed it was supposed to start at 2AM Pacific time but apparently someone forgot that because of daylight savings time it actually means 3AM Pacific = 12 noon in Barcelona, Spain where the event is broadcasting from, DOH!!!

One word sticks in my head as I watch these events: cringeworthy. :D

Oh well, not one compelling aspect for me personally, and whenever they show actors listening to music in the promos and tap an onscreen button that suddenly makes the music playback "better" to me only says it sucked to begin with and they had to redo it on some level to make it passable - just having a "quad DAC" doesn't actually improve things but that's just the marketing BS at work. The source material determines the quality and I for one know that 16-bit 44.1/48 kHz is more than enough for our limited human hearing to begin with. Also, it appears the quad DAC won't even be available in the US and European models and 32GB of internal storage as well with 64GB models available in Asian territories only, I mean really, to hell with that.

I still say the G4 was and still is my perfect smartphone aside from the potential boot loop issue rendering one dead, sadly. All the time, money, and research into this thing and it doesn't look all that different from a Galaxy S7, ugh. We're just getting to a point where all smartphones can't help but be identical I suppose but there's a point where you can't actually make them visually different anymore, bezels be damned. :)
 
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Stopped reading at 3,300mAh battery. For a 5.7" device that's just unacceptable. Only 32GB available at launch in the U.S. And running 2016 hardware in 2017 is not good either. Oh well LG maybe next year.
 
In LG's defense, Samsung bought most of the new chips from Qualcomm not to mention manufactured them, and they are selling to other at something ridiculous compared to Samsung's prices. I don't think those chips will be affordable to other manufacturers until June. Corruption scandals aside, Samsung is handicapping all its competitors during the S8 release window. Basically if you want new chips in a phone in the first half of the year, your only choice is the S8.

LG may say that it's that they need to properly test the SD835 before using it, but the reality is the cost & supply issue.
 
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No more removable battery - instant turn off.

Yeah no thanks LG, you screwed it up by becoming like the rest. I have to stick with G4 then, even with potentially another bootloop in sight and some other issues
 
How is the G6 better than the v20? Sure 821 vs 820 but that's not a huge difference- not like the 835 could be.
 
I'm truly baffled and pissed that LG has literally taken the removable battery option out. And favored adding a water resistant feature to the device instead.

I don't get it. Is it now more common for people to "accidentally" drop their $600+ phones in the toilet than to have run out of battery life?
Obviously not, but why take away something relatively massive to its branding and market a totally new feature in its place? A feature(water resistant) which is nonetheless standard with LGs top competitors(S series and others), and has been for some time now. This is a double slap to themselves. Now all they have to go on is the sleek look of the design, smaller bezels and a few added changes in the UI.

Can LG really only afford to implement one of the two options(removable battery and water resistant)? I mean, what the hell? If it isn't broke, don't fix it. LG, you had a near flawless device with the G4 and you just done F**** it up since.


Nobody who has even basic knowledge of the LG G series phones, doesn't think about it's most distinct feature - a removable battery. This feature is quite possibly the biggest(some may say only) selling point for the entire series. It's what glued the fan base together through out these last several years and now they've just shredded it to pieces. Horrible move on their part.
 
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Let's say I asked 100 people I know: family, friends, co-workers, etc...

Out of those 100 I bet maybe 5 at max would say removable battery is a feature they like to have in a smartphone. But I bet majority that same crowd would say waterproofing instead is a wanted and nice feature.
 
Let's say I asked 100 people I know: family, friends, co-workers, etc...

Out of those 100 I bet maybe 5 at max would say removable battery is a feature they like to have in a smartphone. But I bet majority that same crowd would say waterproofing instead is a wanted and nice feature.

This ^^^

Most people just don't give a shit. I had V10, G5, and now the V20. I probably changed my battery in the G5 twice and the V10 maybe 3 times. Don't have a spare with the V20 and haven't missed it. With Quick Charge it just doesn't matter to most people anymore. I have QC chargers every where. All rooms in the house, both cars, and at the office. Need a charge? Plug in and in 20 minutes there's another 4-5 hours of charge.

But with G6 the phone itself is nice. The limited bezel size, the huge screen, and the aspect ratio make it an intriguing device. The 821 was no surprise and lack of 835 isn't a deal breaker to me. The lack of the 64GB option in the US and no quad-dac is a deal breaker. At this point the only thing that could save G6 is price. If it MSRP's at anything above $550 it's DOA in my opinion. I was wondering if I'd JUMP to it before we knew everything, but it honestly would be a down grade from my V20 now that all the facts are known.
 
I had been making this argument for a long time. Removable battery is one of the most overrated feature. It's great however to easily replace a battery though. If you're on an important call and your phone is running out of battery, what? Hang up, turn phone off, pop in new battery, wait for phone to turn on, and call the person back? Or are you just going to plug the phone into a charger either wall or battery bank and continue talking? It seems like one is way less hassle and also way more compatible with other devices to me. Having a phone with consistent all-day battery life is also fairly common and some with fast charge too.

But the feature I truly want is a bigger battery and slightly thicker phone and shatterproof glass like on the Droid Turbo 2. But I'll certainly take waterproof over removable battery. I got plenty of battery packs to keep my phone charged.
 
shatterproof glass like on the Droid Turbo 2

Just for the record: there is no glass in the Droid Turbo 2's display. ;) It's multiple layers of plastic composite material and even the actual display itself is too: a Plastic OLED (POLED).

(but yes we get the gist of your point even so)
 
You can have a removable battery AND waterproofing. The Galaxy Active S4 and S5 models did.

How is LG's implementation of Android these days? Do they have a bunch of forced apps and their own competing store or is it closer to stock?
 
LG G6 looks insteresting due to its unique 18/9 screen dimensions. Supposedly it is to allow for one handed operation while still having a larger screen. I have a G4 which has the Snapdragon 808 and this was not the faster chip at the time, but it was still adequate. So perhaps the Snapdragon 821 will not make much difference in performance vs the 835. Worth a look for folks with G4 or older devices. Let's wait and see what the reviews say about it. It would help if price is less than premium, especially with all of the good budget Android phones (OnePlus, etc).
 
I had been making this argument for a long time. Removable battery is one of the most overrated feature. It's great however to easily replace a battery though. If you're on an important call and your phone is running out of battery, what? Hang up, turn phone off, pop in new battery, wait for phone to turn on, and call the person back? Or are you just going to plug the phone into a charger either wall or battery bank and continue talking? It seems like one is way less hassle and also way more compatible with other devices to me. Having a phone with consistent all-day battery life is also fairly common and some with fast charge too.
It's more about planned obsolescence and being able to permanently replace a failing battery without (a) ripping your phone's soldered and glued innards apart (or paying someone else $100 to do so) and voiding your warranty, or (b) just tossing a perfectly functional $700 device into the trash heap after 18-24 months.

But, of course, the smartphone maker that started the sealed unibody trend 10 years ago counts on scenario (b) to keep bringing in $40bn a year in a revenue, so...
 
It's more about planned obsolescence and being able to permanently replace a failing battery without (a) ripping your phone's soldered and glued innards apart (or paying someone else $100 to do so) and voiding your warranty, or (b) just tossing a perfectly functional $700 device into the trash heap after 18-24 months.

But, of course, the smartphone maker that started the sealed unibody trend 10 years ago counts on scenario (b) to keep bringing in $40bn a year in a revenue, so...

Exactly. I'm still using my LG G3 and have the original battery, an never-used spare oem battery (got it free when I bought the phone), an 8500 mAh ZeroLemon battery, and a 6500 mAh PowerBear battery. The oem battery hasn't been used since the ZeroLemon was released, purchased, and installed...and I swap between it and the PowerBear depending on where work takes me day to day: if I'm sticking around the metro area, then I'll just run the PowerBear. If I get dispatched to remote rural sites, I'm going with the ZeroLemon. For my work requirements, a removable battery is a must-have feature for me.
 
I'll stick with my G5. The V20 isn't a huge upgrade, and the G6 isn't much more.
 
Removable battery is a useless feature. I'd rather have water resistance and more durable phones. If the battery dies in a few years, you can pay the manufacturer a reasonable amount ($75-150 I'd imagine) for them to replace it. If your phone gets ruined by an accidental liquid exposure or a drop, then your're out $700+.

Fuck removable batteries. The only downside at all is the potential repair by the manufacturer. That's it. You can keep a spare fast charging battery bank around just like you would a spare battery.

We need more drop resistant screens, water resistance, more memory or expandable storage, etc. Removable batteries are on the bottom of the list for 95% of the people. The amount of people that even need it is so miniscule. Almost all of the latest phones will get a full day of pretty heavy usage on a single charge if you take a few minutes and optimize your phone.
 
Removable battery is a useless feature. I'd rather have water resistance and more durable phones. If the battery dies in a few years, you can pay the manufacturer a reasonable amount ($75-150 I'd imagine) for them to replace it. If your phone gets ruined by an accidental liquid exposure or a drop, then your're out $700+.

Fuck removable batteries. The only downside at all is the potential repair by the manufacturer. That's it. You can keep a spare fast charging battery bank around just like you would a spare battery.

We need more drop resistant screens, water resistance, more memory or expandable storage, etc. Removable batteries are on the bottom of the list for 95% of the people. The amount of people that even need it is so miniscule. Almost all of the latest phones will get a full day of pretty heavy usage on a single charge if you take a few minutes and optimize your phone.
I understand your argument that things like shatterproof and expandable/greater storage are higher priority (water resistance I'm not seeing for the "average person," but fair enough).

But "fuck removable batteries" is ludicrous, when you just said you'd expect a $75-100 charge to replace a sealed battery. That's a lot for a phone that's probably worth $200 at best by the time the battery has aged off, and you neglect to mention the inconvenience of being without your device, especially if it needs to be shipped to the manufacturer. Add up the cost and inconvenience, and you might as well just throw it in a drawer and upgrade -- which is precisely what the "average" person does, which in turn is why Apple started this bullshit design paradigm to begin with. It worked!

Most telling of all, you failed to give any downsides for removable batteries. Are there any? Not really. The average person should be using a case to protect a phone worth 30% of their monthly paycheck, at which point the aesthetic differences of unibody/metal vs. modular/plastic become moot. I've got a more supportable statement: fuck unibody designs. Their only upside is giving the tech media a boner over PREMIUM!!!!111 (read: iPhone-like) "feel in the hand."
 
The pricing of the G6 is expected to be in the neighborhood of $800 USD so, while I can't guarantee such a thing I'd say that it's dead on arrival but that's just me. Way too much, but it seems to be the trend nowadays to jack flagship pricing to the stratosphere and it's getting ridiculous, especially considering this isn't technically a top of the line phone (blame not only Samsung for that but also Qualcomm because they agreed to Samsung's demand for exclusivity on the Snapdragon 835 at least for a few production runs or some unknown period of time).

I understand where LG is coming from this time out, but for me personally I see nothing compelling about the G6 at all: the 2:1 aspect ration means nothing to me and their idea that making a screen even taller top to bottom means it's even easier to use with one hand, I mean really, how many people out there can easily use a 5.7" display device with just one hand readily - I can't, and I have what would be considered to be large hands (no trash humor, will ya) and even I have/would have difficulty reaching the upper right hand corner with the left hand thumb so I know I'm not alone there.

Too little too late for me, LG stood out with the G2/G3/G4/V10 design in my opinion, as soon as they screwed up with the modular crap on the G5 and got rid of the rear-mounted controls that's when they became just another smartphone maker pushing out unibody slabs, sadly.
 
My wife's G4 just 13 months old died due to the dreaded boot loop. Due to LGs quality I will personally never buy another LG phone again. But not even using the SD 821 vs 820 and very bland specs for a higher price than the pixel... I am not sure what LG was thinking.
 
The G6 has the Snapdragon 821, in case you missed it - a slight improvement on the 820 but even so it should be better. As noted above, Qualcomm and Samsung went into some kind of deal for basically every 835 that Qualcomm can push out and Samsung got exclusivity on the deal - probably because Samsung is actually manufacturing the SoC for Qualcomm in this situation - which crippled other manufacturers from being able to make use of the latest and greatest SoC. Kinda lame in practice but Samsung really had to bet the farm on their next flagship to make up for the Note7 fiasco, I suppose.

The current rumor mill says that if LG had waited till May-June of this year they might have been able to get the 835 in sufficient quantities for the G6 to matter but they'd lose that competitive window pre-Galaxy S8 release.
 
The G6 has the Snapdragon 821, in case you missed it - a slight improvement on the 820 but even so it should be better. As noted above, Qualcomm and Samsung went into some kind of deal for basically every 835 that Qualcomm can push out and Samsung got exclusivity on the deal - probably because Samsung is actually manufacturing the SoC for Qualcomm in this situation - which crippled other manufacturers from being able to make use of the latest and greatest SoC. Kinda lame in practice but Samsung really had to bet the farm on their next flagship to make up for the Note7 fiasco, I suppose.

The current rumor mill says that if LG had waited till May-June of this year they might have been able to get the 835 in sufficient quantities for the G6 to matter but they'd lose that competitive window pre-Galaxy S8 release.

The difference between 820 and the 821 though is incredibly minor. "Better" is entirely subjective at that point. Honestly I don't think the G6 is much better than the G5 hardware wise and in some ways it's a step back. It certainly isn't any better than my V20.

As you said Tiberian, the G6 is DOA especially at it's confirmed price point of $800 (the Korean MSRP). Typically an LG device hits the US market at about $100 less than what it hit on the Korean market. So history says the LG G6 will be somewhere near $700 when it hits here in the US. $700 for a neat aspect ratio, tiny bezels, a metal unibody (woo?), no quad-dac, no SDcard, no removable battery (for the 0.08% who care), and only 32GB of space. Yeah if that isn't Dead On Arrival I don't know what is. But you can go swimming with it! :D
 
We get a SD slot and wireless charging here in the US? But at 700$ it's just to much. I think I am going to snag a used s7 edge or a op3t for the wife.
 
We get a SD slot and wireless charging here in the US? But at 700$ it's just to much. I think I am going to snag a used s7 edge or a op3t for the wife.

Wireless charging I believe yes. SDCard no. There is no SDCard on the G6 at all.
 
The difference between 820 and the 821 though is incredibly minor. "Better" is entirely subjective at that point. Honestly I don't think the G6 is much better than the G5 hardware wise and in some ways it's a step back. It certainly isn't any better than my V20.

As you said Tiberian, the G6 is DOA especially at it's confirmed price point of $800 (the Korean MSRP). Typically an LG device hits the US market at about $100 less than what it hit on the Korean market. So history says the LG G6 will be somewhere near $700 when it hits here in the US. $700 for a neat aspect ratio, tiny bezels, a metal unibody (woo?), no quad-dac, no SDcard, no removable battery (for the 0.08% who care), and only 32GB of space. Yeah if that isn't Dead On Arrival I don't know what is. But you can go swimming with it! :D

Totally agree.

Didn't the G5 come with the SD820 ? And now a year later the next generation G6 just gets the SD821 LAME. I would dare say the SD821 might actually be worse than the SD820, because all the 821 really is, an overclocked 820, meaning it runs hotter and would drain a little more battery too. For 2017 the SD835 is very important, because supposed to be much more EFFICIENT and run cooler, while also being faster but I like it for it's battery friendly design.

And then the 3,300mAh battery in a 5.7" screen phone, come on guys, that just sucks. This phone will probably have ok good battery life, but it won't be a champ. WHY THE FUCK ARE MANUFACTURES SCARED TO PUT A NICE SIZED BATTERY IN THESE LARGER PHONES ? This G6 would be sweet with a S7 Edge sized 3,600mAh or even little larger
 
look again. All models are getting a micro sd card. Go look at the specs again....

I do stand corrected. i hadn't seen it listed anywhere before. Finally on GSMarena it's there.

That does help it a little bit but at $700 the device is DOA.
 
Totally agree.

Didn't the G5 come with the SD820 ? And now a year later the next generation G6 just gets the SD821 LAME. I would dare say the SD821 might actually be worse than the SD820, because all the 821 really is, an overclocked 820, meaning it runs hotter and would drain a little more battery too. For 2017 the SD835 is very important, because supposed to be much more EFFICIENT and run cooler, while also being faster but I like it for it's battery friendly design.

And then the 3,300mAh battery in a 5.7" screen phone, come on guys, that just sucks. This phone will probably have ok good battery life, but it won't be a champ. WHY THE FUCK ARE MANUFACTURES SCARED TO PUT A NICE SIZED BATTERY IN THESE LARGER PHONES ? This G6 would be sweet with a S7 Edge sized 3,600mAh or even little larger

Battery size at 3300 doesn't mean jack shit. I don't know why you focus so much on that. At 3200 in my V20 I get plenty of battery life and plenty of QC chargers nearby just in case.

Oh and the reason why manufacturers are scared? Note 7 is exactly why.
 
Battery size at 3300 doesn't mean jack shit. I don't know why you focus so much on that. At 3200 in my V20 I get plenty of battery life and plenty of QC chargers nearby just in case.

Oh and the reason why manufacturers are scared? Note 7 is exactly why.

How come phones with bigger mAh size typically = longer battery life.

- S7 Edge with 3,600mAh battery raved for it's battery stamina
- Old Motorola Droid Turbo phones with like 3,900 or 4,200mAh batteries, again always winning battery benchmarks
- Pretty much any Android smartphone with less than 3,500mAh battery sucks, and when I say suck, doesn't get 7hours Screen On time. To me 7h to 8h is a true battery champion phone, and only phones with the big batteries can get that.
 
Only way I'd get the LG G6, is if the T-Mobile version bootloader is unlocked, and it gets CM14.1. What are the chances of that ?
 
How come phones with bigger mAh size typically = longer battery life.

- S7 Edge with 3,600mAh battery raved for it's battery stamina
- Old Motorola Droid Turbo phones with like 3,900 or 4,200mAh batteries, again always winning battery benchmarks
- Pretty much any Android smartphone with less than 3,500mAh battery sucks, and when I say suck, doesn't get 7hours Screen On time. To me 7h to 8h is a true battery champion phone, and only phones with the big batteries can get that.

And again...with QC why does it even matter? I'm not saying I want a phone that gets 2 hours of SoT but seriously when are you possibly not anywhere near a charger? I get 5+ hours SoT on my V20 as is. Then I just pop it on the charger for 20 minutes if need be and I'm back at like 50%.

Only way I'd get the LG G6, is if the T-Mobile version bootloader is unlocked, and it gets CM14.1. What are the chances of that ?

I'm expanding this to the Galaxy S8 too. Only Android phone I'll buy is straight from Google: https://9to5google.com/2017/01/26/s...mera-chipset-waterproof-budget-price-details/

Hahahaha G6 and S8 with root and Lineage? Yeah, that'll be the day.

LG has consistently locked down their devices to varying degrees starting with the V10. If that changes I'll be surprised but I don't see it happening. Yes, root was possible on V10/G5/V20 but development for all 3 is pretty worthless.

And the S8? Yeah, that'll be locked down harder than S7 was. Samsung isn't changing their ways now.
 
The difference between 820 and the 821 though is incredibly minor. "Better" is entirely subjective at that point.

I did say the 821 was a slight improvement and it should be better so, subjective or not I was pretty careful in the wording there. :D The 821 in Qualcomm's testing has better battery life, from like 1 to 3 hours longer runtimes but again that's in their testing on carefully controlled hardware configurations and of course as Android is an evolving thing that may not actually translate over very well into real-world battery life in any given device using an 821 vs an 820.

To purposely cripple the US and European versions with just the 32GB internal storage limitation and no quad-DAC (a major marketing point for the device itself) is just this: flat out fucking insanely stupid. There's just no getting around that as I can practically guarantee you more people in the US and European countries will give a shit about the placebo effect of audio quality (hell, headphones like Beats products made their fortune from buyers in the US more than anywhere else).

Now, as for the one positive - all US and European G6s will have wireless charging, important for many, not for me personally as I believe wireless charging is a waste of power overall and can heat up the battery more than it really should be (Li-Ion cells hate heat, there's just no getting around that, and keeping the battery warm for extended periods of time such as when charging wirelessless is detrimental to the full lifespan of the cell). Since it's not removable (it is but it takes some effort that casual consumers won't be technically adept enough to do themselves, so they call it non-removable) this is an issue for me personally.

The multiple negatives: no quad-DAC in the US/Europe, that storage limitation (and I'm a person that pretty much demands having expandable storage) of 32GB is a problem for me as well because of how Android works nowadays with not being able to write to the external storage as we could with pre-Lollipop versions of the OS. I hate having to do some hack of some kind to do something the OS should be able to do natively to begin with so I blame Google for that. Their idea of doing it this way for "security purposes" just doesn't fucking fly with me - imagine a desktop OS like Windows or anything else that can only write to the main storage (the C:\ drive/partition) and nothing else, what a shitstorm that would create, good lord.

Anyway, again I'm disappointed with LG's decisions and the direction they're going in. 16:9 vs 18:9 is negligible at best, it just means smaller bezels. Having a 5.7" display crammed into the body of a typical device seems like a great idea really, I won't fault them for that, but I damned sure fault them for the other decisions on the battery, the storage, and the lack of the quad-DAC on US/European models. If they dropped the price $150 USD on those models compared to the Korean variant because of those limitations/literally missing components and it ended up at about $549-599 USD retail it might have a chance but I'm pretty sure it's DOA if it's $700+, it just isn't going to sell with those crippling aspects in place.

LG, what the fuck are you people doing? :confused:
 
You can have a removable battery AND waterproofing. The Galaxy Active S4 and S5 models did.

How is LG's implementation of Android these days? Do they have a bunch of forced apps and their own competing store or is it closer to stock?

Plastic is disrespected and the Android media says it is not premium. Premium is worshipped. And, no, LG could not change their minds.
 
One thing though at 450-500$ this could be a good pick. LG's flagships always drop a few months after launch. I wish the 3T had a better camera. That would be the perfect phone. Oh well, lets see these 800-900$ Samsung S8's and Iphone 8 at 1000$. Things are getting out of hand for a stupid phone...
 
How come phones with bigger mAh size typically = longer battery life.

- S7 Edge with 3,600mAh battery raved for it's battery stamina
- Old Motorola Droid Turbo phones with like 3,900 or 4,200mAh batteries, again always winning battery benchmarks
- Pretty much any Android smartphone with less than 3,500mAh battery sucks, and when I say suck, doesn't get 7hours Screen On time. To me 7h to 8h is a true battery champion phone, and only phones with the big batteries can get that.

Do you work? When do you have time to sit on your phone for 8 hours?

IMHO battery benchmarks for SOT is about as moot as removable batteries. My guess is the average user doesnt stare at their phone long enough without the ability to recharge to matter. If I had to guess, 4 hours is probably around the upper limits of what the majority of people will need so its not as crucial as you think. Unless for whatever reason you dont like charging your phone once a day.
 
Do you work? When do you have time to sit on your phone for 8 hours?

I keep Spotify, my MP3 player, or even YouTube playing music a good chunk of my workday. I also get random texts, messages, and notifications I check here and there. People that aren't interacting with customers can often do that.
 
I keep Spotify, my MP3 player, or even YouTube playing music a good chunk of my workday. I also get random texts, messages, and notifications I check here and there. People that aren't interacting with customers can often do that.

But you dont need to have the screen on with any of those use cases except for youtube(unless you pay for red) and even then can plug the phone in since youre sitting there.

Im talking straight up, half your waking hours, are being used to stare at the phone OR for some reason you are unable to recharge for 30 minutes or at night.
 
It's funny to see people arguing that LG is somehow committing market suicide with the G6, when if anything it seems like one of the company's smartest moves yet.

Think about why the G2 was relatively popular -- it mated a great display with a relatively small and interesting design, and had healthy battery life. Assuming the G6's real-world longevity holds up, this is really just mirroring that strategy with much, much newer hardware. It's not a very adventurous phone, but it's going to have a much easier time selling than a quirky device like the G5.

And as others have said, the features that forum goers insist phones "must" have don't really matter to most people. Removable battery? Quad DAC? Those won't matter much if you're not on your phone all day and use the pack-in earbuds. I'm reminded of how many PC gamers think that a computer is garbage if it doesn't have a good dedicated GPU... it's that tendency to confuse strong personal tastes with what everyone else wants. The G6 seems to be designed around features most people will actually notice and look for, and that's fine by me.
 
Do you work? When do you have time to sit on your phone for 8 hours?

IMHO battery benchmarks for SOT is about as moot as removable batteries. My guess is the average user doesnt stare at their phone long enough without the ability to recharge to matter. If I had to guess, 4 hours is probably around the upper limits of what the majority of people will need so its not as crucial as you think. Unless for whatever reason you dont like charging your phone once a day.

This. Plus if you work at a desk or in a car most of the day, there's no reason to to not have a charger there to keep your phone topped off. My phones stay on the charger at my desk for most of the work week. I can't remember the last time a phone has came close to dying on me while out and about because I have chargers in my cars, at home, and at work. I had a Gnex at one point too, lol. I tend to be a moderate-heavy user and murder my battery with some games throughout the day as well.


Anyways, having said that; the 3300 mAh battery is fine IMO. Depending on what other hardware and software configs the G6 has going for it, it could easily still compete with the S8 or whatever else in terms of battery life since the capacity is still withing 5-10% of the 3500-3600 mAh batteries in other flagships.

I'd be more concerned about pricing. LG is high if they think they can sell this phone at GS8 prices given it's on last year's SoC. They need to forward whatever cost savings they have from using that older/cheaper chip to the customer if they want to be competitive. They need to price this at $600 or less, else they're going to fall into the same scheme they do every year and have to mark these down on sale within a few months of launch to move any of them.
 
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Do you work? When do you have time to sit on your phone for 8 hours?

IMHO battery benchmarks for SOT is about as moot as removable batteries. My guess is the average user doesnt stare at their phone long enough without the ability to recharge to matter. If I had to guess, 4 hours is probably around the upper limits of what the majority of people will need so its not as crucial as you think. Unless for whatever reason you dont like charging your phone once a day.
How much they paying you?
It's funny to see people arguing that LG is somehow committing market suicide with the G6, when if anything it seems like one of the company's smartest moves yet.

Think about why the G2 was relatively popular -- it mated a great display with a relatively small and interesting design, and had healthy battery life. Assuming the G6's real-world longevity holds up, this is really just mirroring that strategy with much, much newer hardware. It's not a very adventurous phone, but it's going to have a much easier time selling than a quirky device like the G5.

And as others have said, the features that forum goers insist phones "must" have don't really matter to most people. Removable battery? Quad DAC? Those won't matter much if you're not on your phone all day and use the pack-in earbuds. I'm reminded of how many PC gamers think that a computer is garbage if it doesn't have a good dedicated GPU... it's that tendency to confuse strong personal tastes with what everyone else wants. The G6 seems to be designed around features most people will actually notice and look for, and that's fine by me.
What you failed to mention is this,
Since none of the G series phones ever had top specs when launched, the removable battery was a huge selling factor to a lot of people at the time of buying it. I can promise you that.
While you iPhone, Galaxy and other users come in to display some feedback, know that having a removable battery could possibly be the main reason for getting a G series phone.
(Pre G5)

It is no where near economical or even practical for every consumer to upgrade a phone every two years.
And as you've mentioned with others, what fits you may not fit the rest. Well, ditto. The people who need a decent smartphone can virtually look anywhere. They're all over. But a decent smart phone with a removable Battery? Go to the G series. That's what most of us did. What my needs are for having one is my own business, and that's not the point. My point is that for those of us who did need this feature, it's no longer here. Your life has nothing to do with mine, and your work life has nothing to do with mine. So stop assuming you know what I need.

And until you guys can come up with actual facts on what consumers want in their phones, don't assume figures just because you're on the other side of the spectrum here.

Ah well, maybe with the G7.
 
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