Honda Wants to Charge Electric Vehicles for “Unlimited Range” on Highways

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Talk about a pipe dream. While it would be awesome to have charging hardware embedded into roads, what would be the infrastructure costs for that kind of project? Nevertheless, Honda has gone ahead and designed a system that “enables dynamic charging with a charging power of 180 kW (DC 600 V, 300 A) while driving at a vehicle speed of 155 km/h (96 mph).”

Honda wants to give “unlimited range” to electric vehicles with a new dynamic charging technology at high speeds. Honda doesn’t currently produce any all-electric vehicles, but it is reportedly going to offer battery-powered and PHEV versions of the Clarity, which was first developed to be a fuel cell hydrogen car. While the dynamic charging technology isn’t likely to be implemented in those vehicles, Honda plans to demonstrate it at WCX 17 SAE World Congress Experience next month. Dynamic charging requires charging hardware to be embedded into or over the road. It would basically create invisible train tracks for EVs to use and potentially drive continuously by wirelessly charging.
 
Not if the oil companies have anything to say...
 
Charging freaking roadways!

Seriously, though, how long is this going to go on? Are basic cerebral functions that rare?
 
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The equation of how it will all work out.
(Strong EMF fields + Paranoid Health Freaks) + (Gov't broke + lots of money) =
(Pipe + Dream)
 
The equation of how it will all work out.
(Strong EMF fields + Paranoid Health Freaks) + (Gov't broke + lots of money) =
(Pipe + Dream)

Ever stood below High Tension power lines? Ever done that and held a florescent bulb above your head and watched it light up from the energy in the air? I'm not a paranoid health freak, but there is no way that much EMF energy is good for you. Standing below those lines for any period of time feels physically bad. It isn't some invisible low power force you can't feel like your silly wireless cellphone chargers we are talking about here.
 
Well, here in the US we can't even keep our dams and bridges working. Priorities?
 
New take on old ideas from 1990's Japan...

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Ever stood below High Tension power lines? Ever done that and held a florescent bulb above your head and watched it light up from the energy in the air? I'm not a paranoid health freak, but there is no way that much EMF energy is good for you. Standing below those lines for any period of time feels physically bad. It isn't some invisible low power force you can't feel like your silly wireless cellphone chargers we are talking about here.

I think it's verified that being in EMF for prolonged times has effects on people. Go figure paranoia for one. Of course I'm basing this on people disproving hauntings via unshielded lines in old houses.

Still though I've walked past transformers and high lines and they literally hum loudly with the amount of engery passing through them.
 
I think it's verified that being in EMF for prolonged times has effects on people. Go figure paranoia for one. Of course I'm basing this on people disproving hauntings via unshielded lines in old houses.

Still though I've walked past transformers and high lines and they literally hum loudly with the amount of engery passing through them.

I know, it is just an insane statement to equate not wanting to be in high power fields as "paranoid". All that says is someone has never actually stood in one of those fields.
 
A bunch of people are afraid that wifi is giving them cancer or seizures or whatever. I'm sure those people are really going to love this.

In all seriousness, people need to quit trying to do wireless charging. Its terribly inefficient, and half the reason to move to electric vehicles is to make better use of our energy, not worse. This effort and the many like it need to die a horrible death.
 
Not if the oil companies have anything to say...

It's not even that.

Surely, we will eventually learn that the problem is not how much pollution individual cars put out, but that we have individual cars.

Zero emission cars. Driverless cars. They are all addressing the issue of too many cars. We need to come up with a viable mass transit system that is practical.....or make it so that people do not have to travel as much.
 
Ever stood below High Tension power lines? Ever done that and held a florescent bulb above your head and watched it light up from the energy in the air? I'm not a paranoid health freak, but there is no way that much EMF energy is good for you. Standing below those lines for any period of time feels physically bad. It isn't some invisible low power force you can't feel like your silly wireless cellphone chargers we are talking about here.

Actually yes I have.
 
It's not even that.

Surely, we will eventually learn that the problem is not how much pollution individual cars put out, but that we have individual cars.

Zero emission cars. Driverless cars. They are all addressing the issue of too many cars. We need to come up with a viable mass transit system that is practical.....or make it so that people do not have to travel as much.

Densely populated cities? Sure. Sparsely populated countrysides? Fuck off.
 
Actually, there is a somewhat easy way to help with this. Basically just make all of these roads be a toll road. Toll roads cost extra money as most of them are kept up to date more. Now if you never again how to fill up with gas you are saving money, so a "fix" is to shift that cost. Instead of you paying $2.50 or whatever a gallon for gas you instead start to pay $0.07 a mile and that goes toward the charging of your car which then covers them keeping the road in better condition.

I don't see this happening everywhere, but then again you also don't drive 95mph everywhere. So make this only on major roads and it honestly wouldn't be as horrible as everything is thinking here.
 
Actually, there is a somewhat easy way to help with this. Basically just make all of these roads be a toll road. Toll roads cost extra money as most of them are kept up to date more. Now if you never again how to fill up with gas you are saving money, so a "fix" is to shift that cost. Instead of you paying $2.50 or whatever a gallon for gas you instead start to pay $0.07 a mile and that goes toward the charging of your car which then covers them keeping the road in better condition.

I don't see this happening everywhere, but then again you also don't drive 95mph everywhere. So make this only on major roads and it honestly wouldn't be as horrible as everything is thinking here.

Toll roads? Come visit North Texas. And take some with when you leave.
 
Toll roads? Come visit North Texas. And take some with when you leave.

I have been lucky enough when driving through Texas to avoid them as I don't think I have ever hit one through my driving of Texas. Now if I want to get to Chicago from my house I have to pay 7 tolls. But I can drive from my house in Indiana to Austin, TX and never hit a single toll.

That said I would love to bring your roads home with me. I love the design of your roads with the lanes to do a U turn without having to turn through 2 lights or circle around a block. During my travels to Austin, San Antonio and Richardson (northeast Dallas) I have found those to be some of the best roads I have been on. As somebody that lives in a rural area and am almost never in large cities, I found getting around to be much easier than say down town Chicago. You miss your turn in Chicago just give up and forget about getting back to where you were trying to go as you will never make it there. I would take your guy's service roads (think that is the correct name for the roads along the side of a major highway) and turn around lanes any day.

And along with your roads I will grab a Alamo Drafthouse also. :)
 
Actually, there is a somewhat easy way to help with this. Basically just make all of these roads be a toll road. Toll roads cost extra money as most of them are kept up to date more. Now if you never again how to fill up with gas you are saving money, so a "fix" is to shift that cost. Instead of you paying $2.50 or whatever a gallon for gas you instead start to pay $0.07 a mile and that goes toward the charging of your car which then covers them keeping the road in better condition.

$.07 per mile? Not here in California.
Some of our toll roads cost as much as $1.40 per mile during peak time. If they add wireless charging it would be more like $7.00 per mile.
 
$.07 per mile? Not here in California.
Some of our toll roads cost as much as $1.40 per mile during peak time. If they add wireless charging it would be more like $7.00 per mile.

I just meant they could add something like 7 cents per mile. That was very fuzzy math assuming $2.50 a gallon for gas and 40 mpg to say that you would just take the 7 cents per mile for gas and make that 7 cents per mile for toll roads. Which assumes two things that are probably not true for most people, first being $2.50 a gallon for gas, which honestly I haven't actually looked at the price of gas in about 10 years so I don't know what it really is. It is just one of those things that I need so I just go the station and fill up not paying attention to numbers because it doesn't matter. The other is 40 mpg. That is probably way to high of an estimate, probably should have assumed more like 30 for the average newer car. So don't take the 7 cents to heart, was just some very quick and dirty example math to show a break even.
 
$.07 per mile? Not here in California.
Some of our toll roads cost as much as $1.40 per mile during peak time. If they add wireless charging it would be more like $7.00 per mile.

Let me guess, the state bid out to the highest paying company to maintain the toll roads? In turn that company charged what it wanted. IMHO that's just another form of oppressive taxation.

We have the same situation here in Pennsy. Our toll roads are like $1/mile. I was shocked when I left the exit gate and saw the bill.
 
Let me guess, the state bid out to the highest paying company to maintain the toll roads? In turn that company charged what it wanted. IMHO that's just another form of oppressive taxation.

We have the same situation here in Pennsy. Our toll roads are like $1/mile. I was shocked when I left the exit gate and saw the bill.

And the worst part? It's SUPPOSED to go towards maintaining the road/bridge, but the sleazy politicians push the funds in a "general" purpose or other trust. These people are always out of money, no matter how much you hand them, no matter how much you do the math and throw it in their face. Rotten scoundrels.
 
Seems like this plus self driving would be particularly great ... all we need then is an electric RV and you could hang out in the back with access to a bathroom and such, coast to coast without any stops. Or they could take the obscene amount of money building such a system would cost and make some passenger rail lines.
 
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