Dell Optiplex 790 MT - Ebay

The hex-core systems have been taking a nosedive. I had one in my cart for about 10 days, the seller dropped it another $20. Down from $257 to $193. Cons, its a older westmere xeon system, 1366 cpu. I'm holding out for an e5-1660 or better, I think.
 
Bullitt said:
The hex-core systems have been taking a nosedive. I had one in my cart for about 10 days, the seller dropped it another $20. Down from $257 to $193. Cons, its a older westmere xeon system, 1366 cpu. I'm holding out for an e5-1660 or better, I think.
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Pick up the cheapest LGA2011 machine you can (I've seen them under $200) and then add either an E5-2650/60/70 for $50-$100 or an E5-1650 for $100... done :)
 
Edgar said:
YES! Scored this for $150 with shipping included.
Lenovo-Thinkcentre-i5-4590-3-3Ghz-8GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-Win-8-1-Pro
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thin...82be43d41:g:B9AAAOSwB-1YpgaP&autorefresh=true

Good deal? I was going to use this as my media. But I might actually just use it as my upgrade from my comp in my sig.
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Yeah good deal IF it's a Haswell based desktop. From what I can see the rear I/O doesn't match that of other Thinkcentre M73 (lacking Displayport, USB 3.0).
 
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I'll report once I get it. But it should be haswell. Unless there are other versions of the i5-4590?
 
I meant like the chassis didn't match other Haswell based desktops that Lenovo sells - was thinking it was an older model. Either way check everything when you get it.
 
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I meant like the chassis didn't match other Haswell based desktops that Lenovo sells - was thinking it was an older model. Either way check everything when you get it.
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O i get what you are saying. Yeah you are right. These should support usb 3.0 but the chassis doesn't look like it has it. Guess I'll see when it arrives.
 
Got my Dell 790 in and damn now I want to buy a shit ton more. Threw a spare ssd I had laying around in mine, used the windows 7 pro key on top to get teh free windows 10 upgrade, and now I have a really cool little i5-2500. About to order a 1050 low profile for shits and giggles on it. Thanks for the people who pointed this out.
 
Picked up a Optiplex 7010 in what looks like pristine condition for $67 shipped from eBay(I guess it slipped through attention on the auction).

Only a Pentium CPU, but since it is a 3.1GHz Sandy Bridge, it should be fine for a Media Center/RetroArch machine. I can always toss in a better CPU later(I do have a 3470 laying around anyways). Unfortunately it is SFF so my video card choice is pretty much down to a 1050 if I want something better, but I don't see it being a problem for my primary intended purpose and you can't beat $67 for a fully functional machine. I went with the 7010 specifically because it has USB3 (3010 does not). I'll be upgrading to Win10 from the included Win7 Pro.
 
Edgar said:
O i get what you are saying. Yeah you are right. These should support usb 3.0 but the chassis doesn't look like it has it. Guess I'll see when it arrives.
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Those pics do not match the description. Look at the pic with the side of the case, it has a Core2 Duo sticker.
 
Dew said:
Those pics do not match the description. Look at the pic with the side of the case, it has a Core2 Duo sticker.
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Ty for catching that. I will def look at the tower top to bottom to make sure I got what I paid for.
 
Does 4 threads vs 8 threads make a huge difference? I think I could've got a i7 3770 instead of my i5 4590 for a little more. That big of a deal? Still waiting on my computer. Just shipped.
 
Edgar said:
Does 4 threads vs 8 threads make a huge difference? I think I could've got a i7 3770 instead of my i5 4590 for a little more. That big of a deal? Still waiting on my computer. Just shipped.
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Yes and no depending on what you do. Synthetics will show a difference but real world is another story.

I have a 5930k and a 5960x and while they are nice they aren't incredible for gaming like what a 6700k could do raw horsepower wise unless it's specific games like battle field which I don't play anyways.

If you were doing things like streaming and playing games, rendering, or video encoding the i7 could be better. Personally I think you are fine with the 4590
 
Edgar said:
Does 4 threads vs 8 threads make a huge difference? I think I could've got a i7 3770 instead of my i5 4590 for a little more. That big of a deal? Still waiting on my computer. Just shipped.
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Between those two CPUs, everything else being equal on chipset features you care about and the price being within $20, I would go for the 3770.

It wouldn't be much of a difference though.
 
If you hadn't ordered it yet I would say go for the i7, but since it's already shipped just stick with the i5.
 
Well I kept losing bids over the weekend but somehow ended up with 4 i5-2500 for only $56 each today. So once again thanks for the peeps who pointed this out.
 
I'll go against the grain and suggest that I'd go with the I-5. The non [H] reasoning is that when I switched (3570 to 3770) the only thing I got for day-to-day and gaming was "The godd!@#ed CPU fan was on more than the i5". It got really annoying. However, the AIO liquid cooler solved that issue. I havent seen a jump in FPS, but other things, got faster.
 
Bullitt said:
I'll go against the grain and suggest that I'd go with the I-5. The non [H] reasoning is that when I switched (3570 to 3770) the only thing I got for day-to-day and gaming was "The godd!@#ed CPU fan was on more than the i5". It got really annoying. However, the AIO liquid cooler solved that issue. I havent seen a jump in FPS, but other things, got faster.
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In most games, you won't notice a difference. But there will be some games where the extra threads help and potentially for day-to-day tasks if you do a lot of multitasking.
 
Any thoughts on an i3-2130 vs i5-2400? Wife needs a new desktop for work related crap. Excel, Outlook, audio recording (nothing intensive), browsing the internet. Saw a few options, but I wanted to make sure.

Oh, and any thoughts of 4gb vs 8gb ram? I can always upgrade down the line.
 
entropism said:
Any thoughts on an i3-2130 vs i5-2400? Wife needs a new desktop for work related crap. Excel, Outlook, audio recording (nothing intensive), browsing the internet. Saw a few options, but I wanted to make sure.

Oh, and any thoughts of 4gb vs 8gb ram? I can always upgrade down the line.
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i5-2400, 8GB ram so she can do all her tasks simultaneously without having to worry about memory space.
 
Yeah, that's what I was figuring. PITA to find one cheap, especially when we'll have to add a HDD, wifi, SSD, etc.
 
I'll be giving her my old SSD and storage HDD, and buying upgrades for myself. Then the Wifi card, but that's minor.
 
-Strelok- said:
In most games, you won't notice a difference. But there will be some games where the extra threads help and potentially for day-to-day tasks if you do a lot of multitasking.
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There was a video, I forgot what youtube tech site, that shows day to day you really don't see much of a difference btween i5 and i7's unless you are doing extremely intensive things constatly in the background (video editing, etc). I do a lot LIghtroom exporting for wedding photography and that's one day out of 7 the system is super taxed. It does affect how my games perform while exporting, but my day to day surfing, etc isn't really much different on the i5's at the house compared to the i7's.
 
I have a dilemma. So I won this http://www.ebay.com/itm/172535070017

But they sent me the right computer but in the wrong case. I have a SFF case instead of the mid tower that they show in the pictures. I was wanting the full tower to fit hard drives in there since this computer would've been my new media center. What should I do? Ask for partial refund? The components are correct. Just the case itself is not.
 
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Edgar said:
I have a dilemma. So I won this http://www.ebay.com/itm/172535070017

But they sent me the right computer but in the wrong case. I have a SFF case instead of the mid tower that they show in the pictures. I was wanting the full tower to fit hard drives in there since this computer would've been my new media center. What should I do? Ask for partial refund? The components are correct. Just the case itself is not.
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This is on the listing.

WE STRIVE FOR 100% CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, POSITIVE FEEDBACK, AND 5-STAR RATINGS! Please help us and contact us first if any problems arise. Thank you!

And they have 100% positive feedback. I think you will be satisfied with the results if you contact them.
 
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Pick up the cheapest LGA2011 machine you can (I've seen them under $200) and then add either an E5-2650/60/70 for $50-$100 or an E5-1650 for $100... done :)
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Interesting. What would be a similar APU and mobo combo in the AMD world?
 
the_servicer said:
Interesting. What would be a similar APU and mobo combo in the AMD world?
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Considering the APUs max at 4 cores, 4 Threads, and the E5-2650+ are 8 cores 16 threads.... I'm not sure any would.

You also get 40 pci-e lanes on those vs a much smaller amount on the AMD side.

CPUBenchmark.net says E5-2650 single threaded is 1316 (like A6-5400k) and E5-2660 is 1409 (about the same as an FX-4300).
E5-2670 is 1596 similar to Athlon X4 860k. E5-1650 is 1914, similar to i7-2600/A12-9800.

The accuracy of PassMark cpu scores (listed above) on cpu "scores" is not agreed upon by everyone.
 
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/dev/null said:
Pick up the cheapest LGA2011 machine you can (I've seen them under $200) and then add either an E5-2650/60/70 for $50-$100 or an E5-1650 for $100... done :)
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Are we talking about discrete graphics only? For both Intel and AMD? Intel's ark doesn't seem to mention anything about graphics on the E5-2650.
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Considering the APUs max at 4 cores, 4 Threads, and the E5-2650+ are 8 cores 16 threads.... I'm not sure any would.
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Edit: To clarify what I meant about AMD, I asked about APU combos, which means integrated graphics if I understand correctly. But then I was wondering if AMD has server chips to match the Intel server chips you mentioned. I am very unfamiliar with server chips generally and don't know how frequently they include integrated graphics. I am only suddenly interested in this topic because of the rock bottom prices you mentioned. eBay lists scores of those Intel chips, each for approximately the price of a new desktop Celeron.
Edit 2: Obviously I am very ignorant about this whole subject. So any noob explanation is appreciated. Like I said, I only got interested because of the low prices.
 
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Server chips (outside of SOME e3 xeons) don't generally have any integrated graphics, but many server boards come with integrated graphics on the board rather than the CPU (I'm talking mostly rackmount stuff here).

APU by definition (afaik) always includes graphics. If it doesn't have graphics I don't think it can be considered an APU.

With all that being said, any $10 or $20 graphics card should work.

Edit: Many if not all of thee machines on ebay that come with the old E5 cheapie xeons come with older quadro cards which should be OK for basic stuff, but eat up a slot in the PC. I'm currently using a quadro k2000 (aka GTS 450) with 1GB gddr5 that came with one of my machines for basic low res steam gaming for my son.
 
So the seller is offering a full refund to send the unit back. Should I suggest a partial refund and use that refund for a case? I feel that would be better for both of us since they'll def be losing money on sending and returning.

Dew was correct. The picture was of a core2duo computer. But what I got was correct specs. Just SFF and not mid tower.
 
Up to you what you want to do. The SFF PSU is likely not ATX, and IIRC they also don't use standard ATX Pinouts.
 
Guarana [BAWLS] said:
Up to you what you want to do. The SFF PSU is likely not ATX, and IIRC they also don't use standard ATX Pinouts.
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So then I would need to get a PSU and a case? Or are you saying the mobo wouldn't support an ATX PSU regardless?
 
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