Google Launches Robo-Tool to Flag Hate Speech Online

M76 said:
The internet is not a community, it's a platform. And google has became the gatekeeper of that platform. So if google censores you so you don't show up in said platform, then it does violate you're free speech, you're basically being gagged.
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I absolutely agree that this tool is pointless, but it doesn't appear to actually censor anything? Reading the article, its an automated like/dislike scorer, which it calls "toxicity", that exposes said score via an API. It doesn't actually censor whatever is being scored, so its not all that scary by itself. An application or content provider could leverage this API in order to implement their own filtering functionality though.

If Google decided to modify Chrome in order to auto-filter stuff based on the data this API provides, and doesn't provide any means to turn it off, then that would be what you're thinking of. But even then you could still switch to IE/Edge, Firefox or Opera.
 
It's slow, but I prefer to learn from you guys.

No shit, I'm serious. You guys here have taught me a great deal. Sometimes I can be ..... abrasive. Sometimes I want to be, sometimes I think someone's comment needs it. But sometimes I find I need to back myself up and admit I was wrong or went to far.

I have never had anyone here throw that back in my face. Honesty and integrity and decency are usually well received here on the [H].

Even when I don't deserve it.
 
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From now on I'm only going to talk about how great rape is and how Hitler was the best. I don't want to offend anyone.

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Sentences that are more complex merely rely on keywords that sound negative combined with who it thinks you addressing. If you grammatically address who it assumes you are talking to, it'll go higher. Buzzwords = higher. Political anything = higher.
 
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And there's the real problem, I'd love to sit around with the failed generation and pretend I was being oppressed, but automated social "review" systems are just shit.

I remember when the broken-righties were determined algorithms were just teams of Jews at Facebook conspiring against free speech. It was right around the same time the heifers from Rage Against the Patriarchy were claiming the same thing.
 
I can't be bothered to take a screen shot, but just type in the word penis or vagina.

This thing is GOLD! They must have hired a seriously fucked up religious group to set their standards.

Cuntstain tongue glide comes in at 11%.

Shop talk is positively tame compared to the interhoozits.
 
Guys there is no reason to freak out. There are protected areas if you really to need to say something that is not publically acceptable. I don't see the big deal.

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lilbabycat said:
... Sentences that are more complex merely rely on keywords that sound negative combined with who it thinks you addressing. If you grammatically address who it assumes you are talking to, it'll go higher. Buzzwords = higher. Political anything = higher.
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This little purple diamond and a percent value could be useful as a tool to indicate the level of shitstorm that awaits you on the other side of some link... but the clickbaity titles usually give it away.
 
It is a reasonable bot, but I hope that this won't be abused like there were few in the past!
 
All this tool seems to do is assign a weight to each word used and total it up.
It's beyond silly. The fact that google spent time on this is very telling (as in a complete waste of time/money/etc).
Any site that actually starts to use this should be blacklisted.
 
King of Heroes said:
I absolutely agree that this tool is pointless, but it doesn't appear to actually censor anything?
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It "filters toxic content for human review".

Look at what Google is already doing by empowering armies of SJWs to moderate youtube with shadow-bans.

So we see that its really just looking at keywords to see if they can be controversial, but then you're going to have a no-life jobless blue haired hambeast SJW sitting at home sorting through them and deciding what needs to be censored and who needs to be shadow banned.

She'll look at a comment like "BLM is not a terrorist group, they are a grassroots civil rights movement to fight the oppressive white male patriarchy that enslaves us all" and decide that's beautiful, but find a similar keyword flagged comment like "BLM should be recognized as a domestic terrorist group, since there are so many that carry out acts of racial violence and intimidation under that banner, just like the KKK", and consider that hate-speech and shadow ban the user and delete the comment.
 
Ducman69 said:
--sorting through them and deciding what needs to be censored and who needs to be shadow banned.
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Sure, that's one use for it. But you could quite easily flip that around and use the exact same API to highlight and amplify content (a whole new era of trolling is unleashed?), which would defeat any attempt at censoring it. This is why I say that, as a censorship tool, this is pretty pointless. Its a metadata provider for automated selection, which is pretty harmless on its own. How someone decides to leverage it is what matters, and this API can be easily leveraged both ways. On top of that, seeing who leverages it and how will also provide a form of filtering (e.g. don't frequent sites that use it to filter out, frequent sites that use it to filter in).
 
M76 said:
The internet is not a community, it's a platform. And google has became the gatekeeper of that platform. So if google censores you so you don't show up in said platform, then it does violate you're free speech, you're basically being gagged.
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It's wholesale censorship (online) if Google does the censoring without the consent of the owners of endpoint sites or services, also know as a platforms, on which you're attempting to free your speech, i.e., Kyle has every right to implement a censor bot as the owner of this site. He already has set rules that govern our use of his property. Google does not have the right to summarily censor and/or alter his sites content, including what we post on it following his rules, otherwise.

Your only options at showing discontent where censoring occurs, would be to send an email or leave a politely worded post to the platform owner and dropping support for the site by committing yourself to never returning. On the flipside, a platform owner can ignore the email you sent and the post you made, or strike the post, delete your account and ban you by your ip/email address (if they really dislike you enough) and not care they lost your support. In either case, you are free to cry censorship elsewhere as the web and the real world are both VERY biggly!

Online censoring by platform owners is not a violation of free speech as you are existentially on their property visiting at their discretion and you are still free to bark at the moon in the real world as long as you follow the rules, i.e., not yelling "FIRE!" in a theater or "BOMB!" in an airport when there is none, not disturbing the peace or being a public nuisance, etc.

Sure, your audience might be smaller and fleeting, however, the right to free speech has never guaranteed the size or makeup of any particular audience, how far your voice was to carry, the venues/platforms that would carry it free without restriction or the lack of there being consequences for having said something that breaks the law or that others might find objectionable.
 
michalrz said:
Hold on to your dial up modems, people. We might need to fallback to BBS because it's pretty obvious what's happening. Yes, ridicule my tin foil hat all you want.
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In case you have lost your old one:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100158108 600441868 8000

Here's a couple of server programs that appear to support dial-up connections:
http://www.santronics.com/products/WINServer/index.php
http://www.synchro.net/

Edit: Did some more digging, and found a great starter site to look for server programs:
http://www.bbscorner.com/bbssoftware/activesoftware.htm
 
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Master_shake_ said:
hate speech ha!

what is hate speech?

if you feel you are offended by words, try logging off at least once a day.

sticks and stones may break bones but words are NUCLEAR GODDAMN WEAPONS!
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Whatever the left says.

And dont worry google will not personally filter information, it will be based on an algorithm, that algorithm will be written by someone that thinks correct.
 
M76 said:
The internet is not a community, it's a platform. And google has became the gatekeeper of that platform.
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I couldn't agree more! Just because something is communicative (the internet) that does mean that it is social or that it is a community. Very big warning sign when someone tries to conflate those concepts.
 
Jarod888 said:
But trolls are so funny! I love reading fucked up comments, they make me laugh and then I move on.
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Really? Do you also enjoy reading fucked up things about yourself and/or people like you? Let's make it on a daily basis, how does that sound? Still funny? Come on, people.
 
dgz said:
Really? Do you also enjoy reading fucked up things about yourself and/or people like you? Let's make it on a daily basis, how does that sound? Still funny? Come on, people.
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Just because someone writes something, doesn't mean you have to read it.

Why do people not understand this? Are you TRYING to be as obtuse as possible?
 
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endalykt said:
Just because someone writes something, doesn't mean you have to write it.

Why do people not understand this? Are you TRYING to be as obtuse as possible?
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I am not sure I understand the point you're trying to make.
 
jardows said:
In case you have lost your old one:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100158108 600441868 8000

Here's a couple of server programs that appear to support dial-up connections:
http://www.santronics.com/products/WINServer/index.php
http://www.synchro.net/

Edit: Did some more digging, and found a great starter site to look for server programs:
http://www.bbscorner.com/bbssoftware/activesoftware.htm
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Wow, those newegg modems are expensive. I wonder if that includes the cost of pulling people out of retirement to custom-build one for you.

A smarter place to find a dial-up modem (if you actually want one) is at a Goodwill store. It's not uncommon to find new-in-box USRobotics external modems for less that $5. It's funny to think that someone probably paid upwards of $100 for it 15 years ago, and never even bothered to take off the shrink-wrap. Goodwill is also an excellent source for $5 wireless-G routers, especially the WRT54g which can be converted into all sorts of different networking appliances (file server, wifi repeater, etc)
 
dgz said:
Really? Do you also enjoy reading fucked up things about yourself and/or people like you? Let's make it on a daily basis, how does that sound? Still funny? Come on, people.
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I could care less if people write fucked up shit, if I don't like it, I stop reading it. Seriously, how insecure are you?
Just because someone writes it, doesn't mean it's true.
 
Jarod888 said:
I could care less if people write fucked up shit, if I don't like it, I stop reading it. Seriously, how insecure are you?
Just because someone writes it, doesn't mean it's true.
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Fair enough. It was an honest question
 
endalykt said:
I miswrote.
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It wasn't about the typo, obviously. Come on, now.

My answer to the other person applies. I have no problem with anti PC people as long as they're consistent in their beliefs.
 
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