Who's buying AMD Ryzen? And Why? 30 day poll after intial release!

Are you buying AMD Ryzen

  • Yes - Something new and different - I don't need more peformance, but I like tech

    Votes: 17 12.0%

  • Yes - Upgrading an older machine - I expect a nice performance bump

    Votes: 44 31.0%

  • Yes - I'm tired of Intel sandbagging and releasing 10% increases and want to support AMD

    Votes: 34 23.9%

  • No - My current CPU is fine for everything I do

    Votes: 36 25.4%

  • No - I'll wait until Intel's next release cycle - they'll drop the other shoe!

    Votes: 2 1.4%

  • No - We've been waiting all this time for equitable performance to something already available?

    Votes: 9 6.3%
  • Total voters
    142
  • Poll closed .
Archaea

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So, all of us know we aren't really limited in gaming by our current CPU (Sandy Bridge and newer). Most of us here primarily game.

Shaving a few seconds off productivity apps isn't really that exciting to me -- not exiting enough to spend $500-$700 on a new system.

My nearly four year old I7-4770K at 4.5Ghz suites me just fine at this time. But apparently AMD Ryzen is actually making good on the hype and will steal the performance crown from Intel for a short while ---- that is until Intel just smashes it with tech they blow the dust off that's just been waiting on their shelf for the motivation to release.

Anyway --- I'm curious who is upgrading to AMD Ryzen? And why?

I'd recommend Ryzen for a new build in the next six months based on what I've seen, but I don't see much reason for the general enthusiast on these boards to upgrade. You?
 
IF I am building a new PC over the Summer, Ryzen will almost certainly be my choice. But I'm not sure if I'll be doing that yet.
 
I've been wanting to upgrade my 2500k, but wasn't going to spend shit tons of money to make it feel like an upgrade.
 
-Strelok- said:
IF I am building a new PC over the Summer, Ryzen will almost certainly be my choice. But I'm not sure if I'll be doing that yet.
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Ditto. I've been planning to replace my Opteron 165 fileserver with the sig rig for years, but I can limp along a while longer.
 
I have no reason for a new computer. I have 2 really stellar machines (and a few crappy ones) BUT I like new tech and building stuff so I'm in.
 
No reason for it, have really decent machines. However if i manage to sell some parts i might get x1700 and x370.
 
I disagree SB is not out of date. Speed wise at high clocks it's fine for daily and most gaming. But even SB to the 4xxx-59xx-6xxx is a jump in 4k... 10fps or more in some games so yeah they are getting old when 60fps is hard enough in 4k. And I owned one for years so not just hating on it!

Also support of new storage and the rest is the main thing. Power use also helps. A little i3 is a little more frugal vs the 2600k lol.

Mine died with the board so I'm on an i3 (noticeably slower in some windows/browsing scenarios and I didn't think it would!), so Ryzen is almost perfect timing.
 
My i7 6850K @ 4.4GHz is more than enough and Ryzen wouldn't be an upgrade anyway. In a year I'll probably drop in a 6900K for relatively cheap that will tide me over the following 2-3 years.

But I have bought AMD stock and have made a killing - hoping Ryzen only further increases that. ;)
 
yes
going from a 3930k to a 1700/1700x should be a nice jump for video editing.
Sad x370 doesn't allow for 128gb
 
I have a 4770k and a 1080 so I have no reason to upgrade for a while. Not worth dropping $800 for a new platform upgrade at the moment.
 
I decided to just wait on Intel's answer to all this Ryzen business. But let me say, I am very impressed with Ryzen and I would recommend it over Intel ... until Intel has their performance and pricing corrected to match AMD, which may or may not happen. I assume it will.

Intel will always have the better product in my mind. At the moment, Intel has the worst part but it's 50% more expensive.

One way Intel can fight back is bring out a new 10 or 12 core CPU that instead of costing $1,700 might only cost $699 or $749 or even match the top AMD 1800x at $499. Before people start yammering that will never happen, I am hear to tell you all that NONE of you know wtf Intel will do so shut it. A good example of this is that when Intel announced the 10 core CPU, everyone was shocked at the $1,700 price tag.

There are several methods employed to make money. If you half the price of a popular product, you will instantly sell 2x to 3x more than you did at the full price. This is a fact. Intel could bring out a 10 core part at $499 and they would sell a shit ton of them. This will also not cannibalize their sales. A majority of those sales would be stopping AMD from selling their 1800x Ryzen. I can assure all of you Intel is looking to not just match their pricing but to best their performance. Intel is not going to sit there and lose hundreds of millions in sales over the next 2 or 3 years. I'm pretty sure they will fight back tooth and nail.
 
SixFootDuo said:
I decided to just wait on Intel's answer to all this Ryzen business. But let me say, I am very impressed with Ryzen and I would recommend it over Intel ... until Intel has their performance and pricing corrected to match AMD, which may or may not happen. I assume it will.

Intel will always have the better product in my mind. At the moment, Intel has the worst part but it's 50% more expensive.

One way Intel can fight back is bring out a new 10 or 12 core CPU that instead of costing $1,700 might only cost $699 or $749 or even match the top AMD 1800x at $499. Before people start yammering that will never happen, I am hear to tell you all that NONE of you know wtf Intel will do so shut it. A good example of this is that when Intel announced the 10 core CPU, everyone was shocked at the $1,700 price tag.

There are several methods employed to make money. If you half the price of a popular product, you will instantly sell 2x to 3x more than you did at the full price. This is a fact. Intel could bring out a 10 core part at $499 and they would sell a shit ton of them. This will also not cannibalize their sales. A majority of those sales would be stopping AMD from selling their 1800x Ryzen. I can assure all of you Intel is looking to not just match their pricing but to best their performance. Intel is not going to sit there and lose hundreds of millions in sales over the next 2 or 3 years. I'm pretty sure they will fight back tooth and nail.
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And they have the tech to do it. Look back, in 2011 Intel said they had 64 and 128 core cpus in their lab. Haven't they only released to 24 and 32 core in the Xeon lineup to this point? They haven't needed to show their cards because theirs been no competition. They are the proverbial 800 lb gorilla and I absolutely agree they can up the anty with a wave of the finger with existing tech. (No R&D needed) to smash Ryzen.

Edit: apparently 24 cores is the typical high end Xeon release point today.

But then there is this. (Xeon Phi). 60 - 72 cores.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon_Phi#/search
 
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The lack of ECC support will table the idea for now. I want ECC support for the linux server / pvr that I was going to upgrade.
 
drescherjm said:
The lack of ECC support will table the idea for now. I want ECC support for the linux server / pvr that I was going to upgrade.
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When they release the Ryzen for Server's = Naples -- you'll have your opportunity. Supposed to be Q2 of 2017.?.
 
When they release the Ryzen for Server's = Naples -- you'll have your opportunity. Supposed to be Q2 of 2017.?.
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Naples is not what I want for this application. I need a low power solution. No need or desire for all that Naples brings to the table. I don't even need 8 cores. However the 65W 8C/16T ryzen would do well for me if it supported ECC. I am basically looking for something that is competitive with Intel's E3 xeon platform not the E5 or E7 platform.
 
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The lack of ECC support will table the idea for now. I want ECC support for the linux server / pvr that I was going to upgrade.
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This is one thing that holds me back a bit. My gaming machine is Intel (just jumped from Sandy Bridge to Skylake), but my Workstation is currently AMD. It's an older 8350, which I bought because I needed physical core count (and couldn't afford a Xeon) for something I was doing, and the AMD side had that at a price I could afford. It's mostly a pure productivity machine now, and could use an upgrade, but I've moved almost everything to ECC so I can convert it to a server after it's done as a workstation. No ECC means it's less useful in the long long run for me.

Dunno. I'm thinking about it. Also waiting to make sure no bugs.
 
I'm not but I hope a lot of people do so that Intel loses marketshare.
 
Replacing my dying i7-870. Looking to the future of multi-threaded applications.
 
I really want to jump on the Ryzen 7 1800X with 32gig of ram but I'm holding off until I see other peoples review. If it ends up that I can get at least 20%-30% difference from what I currently have (see signature) I'll gladly spend a 1000.00 for the motherboard, ram, cpu, and new waterblock :confused::rolleyes:
 
I said no because my current CPU is fine for everything I do. Now, for the most part that is true, but sometimes doing photo or video editing it seems a bit slow. If I were going to build a new system I'd definitely go Ryzen. More cores at close to the same single threaded performance, while being cheaper, is a win. I also am tired of how Intel is sandbagging and keeping mainstream processors to 4 cores for so long with small single threaded performance increases. I'd like to stick it to Intel if/when I build a new machine.
 
I have a Phenom II X6 and I've already preordered a 1700X... hoping for some nice performance gains!
 
Will buy if mini-DTX motherboards become available. I'd like a SFF with a dedicated GPU and sound card.
 
I have a Broadwell E with sLi 1080's... I have NO reason to sidegrade... however ... I will be gaining 2 more cores and I just love having the latest toy.... so I already pre-ordered RYZEN... I am an AMD FANBOI at heart... I have been lost in the woods for a long time.... now I can come home.
 
I wonder how different this same poll in the Intel CPU subforum would turn out? As it stands now it looks like the majority of users in this AMD subforum are upgrading their CPU to Ryzen, that actually surprises me quite a bit. I figured most people would be sitting tight with what they currently have.
 
Archaea said:
I wonder how different this same poll in the Intel CPU subforum would turn out? As it stands now it looks like the majority of users in this AMD subforum are upgrading their CPU to Ryzen, that actually surprises me quite a bit. I figured most people would be sitting tight with what they currently have.
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It's something new and different.

Even I'm considering an AMD CPU now, as little as that will bring in terms of differences with what I have right now. Mainly because its new, and some features appeal to me. Single core overclocking, cheap 8 core CPU's (I'm eyeing the 1700X), and a platform that will have plenty of longevity to it.
 
Things are looking rather good for this round of AMD, bought early on Bulldozer and was not overly thrilled when launched but it worked out in the end. No hurry at this point, want to see how it pans out in the next several months. Plus if some info on the AMD server platform emerges maybe useful as well and a possible path. If Intel maintains their insane pricing on Sandy E AMD will get another buy (at least two times on the cpu since the socket will be around for awhile - hey maybe three times).
 
Archaea said:
I wonder how different this same poll in the Intel CPU subforum would turn out? As it stands now it looks like the majority of users in this AMD subforum are upgrading their CPU to Ryzen, that actually surprises me quite a bit. I figured most people would be sitting tight with what they currently have.
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I've bought plenty of both over the years - went from Cyrix 6x86 to PII to Athlon to A64 to Core 2 to Sandy to Skylake, with plenty of the other brand mixed in from time to time for alternate uses where it fit. I believe in buying the best part at the right price for the job. I currently have the skylake and a bulldozer, and want to get off the bulldozer at some point not due to the CPU, but due to the fact that Gigabyte and I seem to mix horribly on AMD boards (should have remembered my Nforce3 days) and I want off this motherboard.

Bulldozer is getting a bit old, especially if you're on one of the older FX chips. Might as well jump while one can.
 
Ive been frustrated with Intel which is why I've been waiting on Ryzen to get a feel if AMD will offer anythng close enough to being competitive.

AMD has done that so I'll sponsor them with my sorely needed upgrade.
 
that 10% intel increase is a lie, lol. It should be "tired of intel releasing a 200mhz faster chip and calling it a new chip" ROFL.
 
I don't need a new system, but I've wanted to go SFF for a long time and I want AMD to succeed. My first build was an athlon 64 system so I want to return to where it all began :)
 
I'm still rolling with Hyper-Threading off on my 4790K @ 5ghz, because it's still faster for all the games I play across the board.

I look at Ryzen and just see 12 more, slower, cores. Great.

I only care about gaming performance, and from what I've seen, Ryzen is going to be slower than even my current system. Not only that, but right now a 7700K + Asus ROG mobo is cheaper than the equivalent Ryzen setup, has faster RAM, and is available NOW!


I mean, I wanna join in all the excitement, but... :unsure:
 
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I am still in DDR3 land with an i7 2600K and an i7 3700 and have multiple 32GB servers and 16GB gaming machine. With DDR4 prices being high now, I might wait a bit.
 
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I'm sticking with what I have because A) I don't even need the performance of what I have and B) $$$. AMD has priced its stuff right but for me personally, I have better things I can spend the money on :(
 
Not me as it seems waste of money for same performance i already have. I invested into Intel platform, yes paid great price for it but Ryzen doesn't offer anything better especially not x370 motherboard which lacks features i have with high end 2011. Competition is good and this will lower the price for Intel CPUs and chipset which means, can't wait to get my hands on Skylake X and 2066 socket :)
 
I'm gonna go with the 1800X, I'll probably wait until the initial BIOS issues and such are all ironed out first. It's a combination of throwing a bone to AMD for finally putting up some competition and the want of a true 8-core CPU without having to put down $1000.
 
vegeta535 said:
I have a 4770k and a 1080 so I have no reason to upgrade for a while. Not worth dropping $800 for a new platform upgrade at the moment.
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Yeah that's my issue -- OC'd 3570k and a 1070, and it's been hard to get excited about an "upgrade" to 7700k, spending $700-$800 for CPU/Mobo/RAM just to gain.. what, an onboard NVMe slot for a screaming 960 Evo?

I think I'll wait out all these suckers that are blind-preordering Ryzen to replace their Intel rigs, hopefully it'll be raining Intel in the ForSale forum and I can snap one up before their Ryzen buyer's remorse sets in, or weird Windows incompatibilities and crashes start popping up.
 
odditory said:
Yeah that's my issue -- OC'd 3570k and a 1070, and it's been hard to get excited about an "upgrade" to 7700k, spending $700-$800 for CPU/Mobo/RAM just to gain.. what, an onboard NVMe slot for a screaming 960 Evo?

I think I'll wait out all these suckers that are blind-preordering Ryzen to replace their Intel rigs, hopefully it'll be raining Intel in the ForSale forum and I can snap one up before their Ryzen buyer's remorse sets in, or weird Windows incompatibilities and crashes start popping up.
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Nope, not selling my Intel rig when I get Ryzen stuff.

Yes, totally blind and knew nothing about the coming remorse and let down and spent hundreds of dollars to boot. I should have waited several years and got a RyZen used :D :rolleyes:
 
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