1800x or 1700x which one?

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Gonna Mcenter preorder today.

What is a compelling enough reason to get the 489 dollar 180pz over the 389 dollar 1700x?

200mhz difference?

All other specs equal.

?

I cant make my mind up.
 
tangoseal said:
Gonna Mcenter preorder today.

What is a compelling enough reason to get the 489 dollar 180pz over the 389 dollar 1700x?

200mhz difference?

All other specs equal.

?

I cant make my mind up.
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my only assumption would be better binning. If they clock them to the ragged edge out of the factory, it could be a benefit
 
If it were me I'd probably go 1700X. However, like rgMekanic said above, the 1800X chips might be binned better if you are going to OC. In that case you may want to see what the reviewers can do with each chip.
 
I got the 1800X. I just wanted the top of the AMD line TBH, I've been sitting on $650 for that CPU for months now and its cheaper that I thought it would be.
 
What are you going to be shooting for if you are looking for a 4.5ghz overclock that might be a stretch for 1700x . You can still get the change on a good 1700x part that might clock as good as a mediocre 1800x.

If anything above/near 4ghz is fine for your needs the choice is clear ..

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Just saw that AMD did 5.1ghz on ln2. So 1700x might be a better choice.
 
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I will have full h2o block with external rad. So not ln2 but will def run cool under wide open throttle. I may just shoot for the 1700x and hope to float it around 4.3-4.4 ghz well see.
 
Go for the 1700x it's always a crap shoot on overclocking. I doubt will see much difference between a 1700x and a 1800x max speed in overclocking.
 
I am going 1800X as soon as the Mitx Boards come around. Although a nice performing cheap server on full ATX could be nice.
 
Yeah, debating ditching my Tyan S8230 with dual 6172s for a Zen based server. Just need a dual proc board to hit the streets..
 
Oh, for the OP - I'm going 1700x, stock. It's going into my SteamBox, it'll be a nice upgrade over the old i5-3570k!
 
If Kyle sais 1700 then damnit its 1700 lol. Im putting my money down on the 1700.
 
Just reserved my 1700 at Microcenter in Marietta (Atlanta) Georgia woot woot. Just sold my 3930K to get this bad boy.
 
I have a feeling the 1700x is going to be very similar to the 1800x in terms of overclocking. Much like comparing the FX-8320 and the FX-8350
 
refraxion said:
Ugh... Tangoseal you gotta tell me how it is compared to the 3930k!!
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I have a feeling that the 1700X is going to absolutely devastate the 3930K being that the 3930k is slower than the 6900K by around 30-35% depending on whos benching.
 
Also posted in the build thread...

I went with 1700x + Asus Prime B350-Plus. I am not going to run SLI / CrossFire and only looking for a possible mild overclock.

My current system is running an i7-870 at stock speed (because it became unreliable at overclock). Now tt fails to POST sometimes. This will be a major upgrade in the CPU department.
 
I'm going to let all you guys spend your money and I will base my decision off your excellent feedback. The top of the line r5 might match ipc and clock speeds so that's an option too.
 
I really want to see the motherboard reviews. 1700X is my budget to replace the 8350 in my sig...but I'd like to see which mobo works best for my purposes.

Reviews...with mobos.
 
If you wish to overclock you did yourself NO favor with your motherboard choice. The power phase on that board is totally inadequate for a decent stable overclock.

russnuck said:
Also posted in the build thread...

I went with 1700x + Asus Prime B350-Plus. I am not going to run SLI / CrossFire and only looking for a possible mild overclock.

My current system is running an i7-870 at stock speed (because it became unreliable at overclock). Now tt fails to POST sometimes. This will be a major upgrade in the CPU department.
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Honestly haven't been this excited for an AMD cpu launch in like 15 years. Not sure that I'll buy one for myself personally since i have a 6700k but damn it is definitely tempting to buy just to support AMD. It's good to have them back in the game.
 
Hope Kyle reviews the 1800X, 1700X, and 1700 on the MSI boards. Am curious to see how the 65w 1700 does in both real world power consumption and o/c
 
os2wiz said:
If you wish to overclock you did yourself NO favor with your motherboard choice. The power phase on that board is totally inadequate for a decent stable overclock.
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Indeed, that's why I used "possible" and "mild" (y)
 
To the overclocker, I am not sure if all these CPUs will look the same.
 
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I have a 5820k also, eagerly awaiting the benchmarks to see if it'd be worth it to go 1700X.

I don't want to be a pussy, but I also don't want to sidegrade. :)
 
1700x and considering that 5820k and 3930k run at 4.6Ghz easily i don't see AMD bringing anything significant.
 
If I already had Broadwell-E there's no way I'd switch to Ryzen. X99 is better and the performance difference looks minimal. I guess for the next few days you might be able to resell those top two Broadwell-E SKUs and pocket the difference. Who are the people buying into $1000 HEDT that are cash starved? Selling your $400,000 supercar for a $300,000 supercar to pocket the difference? If you made the initial purchase the difference in $ probably doesn't bother you. If it's for support of AMD... woot for you.
 
ochadd said:
If I already had Broadwell-E there's no way I'd switch to Ryzen. X99 is better and the performance difference looks minimal. I guess for the next few days you might be able to resell those top two Broadwell-E SKUs and pocket the difference. Who are the people buying into $1000 HEDT that are cash starved? Selling your $400,000 supercar for a $300,000 supercar to pocket the difference? If you made the initial purchase the difference in $ probably doesn't bother you. If it's for support of AMD... woot for you.
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I don't think anyone who already owns a Haswell or Broadwell-E will be looking to switch to Ryzen. At least not THIS generation. Now I'm much more curious how Ryzen will compare to whatever Intel does for the next HEDT release. They're going to need to either offer a lot more performance or drop their prices considerably, or they're going to lose a lot of business from even the high end folks. Until now the only way to get >4 cores with decent IPC was with the HEDT series, so people HAD to spend the extra cash. If you're now looking at something roughly the same performance, but the AMD is $500 cheaper, Intel will have a hard time selling chips.

And I say this as a current Haswell-E owner...I don't mind SPENDING money for performance...I don't like WASTING money for performance.
 
I'm trying to fight off the upgrade devil over Ryzen. :punch: I love my H100i (original version) on my Intel CPU but I don't really care for the idea of using the AMD mounts for it, if I move to Ryzen.
 
Bandalo said:
I don't think anyone who already owns a Haswell or Broadwell-E will be looking to switch to Ryzen. At least not THIS generation. Now I'm much more curious how Ryzen will compare to whatever Intel does for the next HEDT release. They're going to need to either offer a lot more performance or drop their prices considerably, or they're going to lose a lot of business from even the high end folks. Until now the only way to get >4 cores with decent IPC was with the HEDT series, so people HAD to spend the extra cash. If you're now looking at something roughly the same performance, but the AMD is $500 cheaper, Intel will have a hard time selling chips.

And I say this as a current Haswell-E owner...I don't mind SPENDING money for performance...I don't like WASTING money for performance.
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There still the possibility that Ryzen is going to poop on Haswell-E for my uses, in which case I'll switch.

Seems slim though, since I mostly just game/stream.
 
frunction said:
There still the possibility that Ryzen is going to poop on Haswell-E for my uses, in which case I'll switch.

Seems slim though, since I mostly just game/stream.
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Even if it is faster, I can't see it being THAT much faster. A couple percent faster in some cases probably won't justify a $900-1000 upgrade (new MB, CPU & RAM). I'm also not big on being the guinea pig for new hardware. Give it a couple months and see what bugs shake out.
 
Bandalo said:
Even if it is faster, I can't see it being THAT much faster. A couple percent faster in some cases probably won't justify a $900-1000 upgrade (new MB, CPU & RAM). I'm also not big on being the guinea pig for new hardware. Give it a couple months and see what bugs shake out.
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I agree, why would i pay $500 + mobo for the same or slightly higher performance where SLI can run only in 2x8x speed, overclocking is not that great, only dual memory channel and AMD v sucks for virtualization. Yes i paid nifty price for Intel already but not worth paying same again for pretty much same thing. I look forward socket 2066 and pricing on that one...that would be smarter choice at this point.
 
Luka said:
I agree, why would i pay $500 + mobo for the same or slightly higher performance where SLI can run only in 2x8x speed, overclocking is not that great, only dual memory channel and AMD v sucks for virtualization. Yes i paid nifty price for Intel already but not worth paying same again for pretty much same thing. I look forward socket 2066 and pricing on that one...that would be smarter choice at this point.
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Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, pcie 3.0 8x is plenty speedy
 
Luka said:
I agree, why would i pay $500 + mobo for the same or slightly higher performance where SLI can run only in 2x8x speed, overclocking is not that great, only dual memory channel and AMD v sucks for virtualization. Yes i paid nifty price for Intel already but not worth paying same again for pretty much same thing. I look forward socket 2066 and pricing on that one...that would be smarter choice at this point.
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If you already have X99 and a Ebay 10 core xeon for $350, you don't even need to be participating in this thread.

If you were considering x99 and a 6900K or 6950X, these results are absolutely relevant to you.
 
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