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UPDATE: RYZENS, GGEEEEEEETTT YOUR RYZENS HEEEERREEEE!! [/barker mode]
http://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/02/22/dont_be_pussy_preorder_amd_ryzen_today_starts_at_1et
(Thank you, Kyle!)

UPDATE 2: Need help on deciding which RAM to buy? In the above thread, Aluminum posted this, and I think is informative enough to put here. (NOTE: the first post is mostly just an advertisement for the memory they carry on-hand, but the beginning still offers helpful details. And if anything the modules listed can sorta be taken as "most likely to work and probably at their speeds or close to".)
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-ddr4-memory-what-you-need-to-know.18770248/
This post was from a response they got from ASUS:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/30533843
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Time is ticking down, there's about a month or two before we'll have our new hardware, and we basically have all the pertinent details to let us start paper-building our new systems! As such, given it has been an entire architecture since I've last had to buy the major 3 components (CPU, RAM, Mobo), I'm wondering who everyone goes with these days and what you all plan to nab for hardware? I figured we've had the "are you going to buy Ryzen" threads, and plenty of rumor ones, but none about what those of us will actually buy when it's available...

Personally I hate the rumored CPU naming schemes and hope to all hell it's just fake rumors to try and derail our hype train.
That being said, for the CPU portion lets just stick with these choices, whether they'll end up being real or not, it'll still show us your intentions:
8C/16T 95W ---||--- (AKA Top Model Enthusiast)
8C/16T 65W ---||--- (High End Enthusiast)
8C 95/65W -----||--- (Budget Enthusiast)

6C/12T 95W ---||--- (Mainstream Top Model)
6C/12T 65W ---||--- (THE Mainstrain Model)
6C 95/65W -----||--- (Budget Mainstreain)

4C/8T 95W -----||--- (Budget King)
4C/8T 65W -----||--- (Budget Queen)
4C 95W/65W --||--- (Grandma Needs a New PC)​
(The labels aren't really accurate but just roll with it... lol)


I'll start us off... :)
I'm currently on the fence about whether or not it'll be the top-top model, but it'll be at least the second highest, so:

- Ryzen 8C/16T 95W
- MSI X370 Titanium
- G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB DDR4-3433 or 3833​

MSI Titaium.png GS TridentZ White.png

System holdovers will be my ASUS STRIX R9 390, my various HDDs, and my 750W PSU (I have a Tt 1000W if somehow it's needed lol)

I'm really out of the loop on RAM for who is best these days, but I figured I'd go a bit overkill on the speed to make sure I had ample overclock room :D
What do you think would look better though... those White-on-Gray, or the White-on-Black? I'm almost leaning towards the latter... (Is it in bad taste to make a "Black RAM Matters!" joke? Hopefully not, since that was it. Or by all means edit it out heh)

So, who's next? :cool:


Updated working links for Newegg.

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/02/22/dont_be_pussy_preorder_amd_ryzen_today_starts_at_1et
 
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4c/8t 95w or 6c/12t 65/95w (depending on perf and price)
-- Gigabyte (not sure of model, prob top perf non-enthusiast)
---- Crucial (if they have vlp, otherwise best value/$) with good timing/clock ratio.

I know I'm being very vague, but I choose with cost being a huge factor, brand rep being third and features (tied for) first, so it's hard to not be. Gigabyte has been good for me recently, and crucial has made some very low profile ddr3 sticks, so I'm hoping they wont let me down this time either (though, the only vlp ddr4 sticks they have ao far are server sticks, so I may have to forgo them this time).

Whatever the case, I'll be waiting a few months for the dust to settle this time, since I've made a few large purchases recently, and jumped on the rx480 at release, don't need to do it again (especially since I've survived this long with an A10-6800k already).
 
Formula.350 said:
- Ryzen 8C/16T 95W
- MSI X370 Titanium
- G.Skill TridentZ 2x8GB DDR4-3433 or 3833​
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I am glad to see you are going to buy immediately. Definitely looking forward to your review of the X370 chipset and the top of the line Ryzen.

Assuming Ryzen is as good as it appears to be currently, my Ryzen build version will probably go with something like this:

1) Top of line 8C/16T Ryzen or 65 Watt 8C/16T (if baseclocks are not drastically lower).
2) Probably an Asus or Gigabyte X370 motherboard (although the MSI board reminds me of the good old days of the SOYO KT400 dragon ultra platinum).
3) Ram will be at least 32 GB DDR4 (possibly 64 GB if I can afford it) of something fast, but also ECC (which better be supported on Ryzen if they allow the memory controller to address 64 GB of ram).
4) An AMD/ATI Video card near the top of the line offering (I might suffer through my HD4770 that is officially too old to run some of the latest titles now and see how Vega turns out)
5) 512+GB M.2 NVME drive (depending on pricing)
6) 1TB SSD drive from Crucial / Micron / Samsung / Intel
7) 2x 8+TB SMR drives (whichever vendor is providing the best backblaze results in the high capacity zone)
8) Recycle my PCP&C 750W PSU assuming it is still compatible with current motherboard connectors
9) Probably go with a new case with better ventilation characteristics and more modern features (front end USB 3.1 Type C ports). It will be difficult to retire the Gmono CF2029SW-S case I currently have though, maybe I'll just look into getting Type C USB 3.1 ports that I can replace the USB 2.0 ports on the front of the Gmono.
 
I'll have the 8C/16T 95W chip the minute it is available as well, not sure on which board I want because I haven't seen anything from Asus yet, but the MSI Titanium does look nice. Already have a G-skill Trident 3200mhz CL14 kit that I saved from my Skylake rig.

Not sure on the GPU, I have a Gsync monitor so I might just stick with a 1070 but that sets off my PC building OCD.
 
My planned build:

Processor: AMD Ryzen R7 1800x
Cooler: Corsair H110i
Motherboard: Asus Crosshair VI
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4000
Video Card: AMD Radeon R10 Vega (Have a 980 Ti or Fury X to use for now)
Displays: Benq XL2540 240hz, LG 34U97
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i (have this from previous big build)
Case: Corsair Air 540

Speakers: Micca MB42X and Monoprice 10" Subwoofer
Headset: Sennheiser Game Zero
DAC: Soundblaster X7
Keyboard: Mistel Barocco with Silver Switches
Mouse: Razer Deathadder Elite
Surface: QCK Heavy
 
cpu: 8C16T 95W
Mem:G.Skill Trident Z 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14 Black/White quad kit
Motherboard: unknown
at least that is how it is looking now. some factors are dependant on what would actually work with the motherboard. I might wait for some people like Flanker to test certain motherboards and base the memory purchase on that as well.
 
CVNet1 said:
I am glad to see you are going to buy immediately. Definitely looking forward to your review of the X370 chipset and the top of the line Ryzen.

2) Probably an Asus or Gigabyte X370 motherboard (although the MSI board reminds me of the good old days of the SOYO KT400 dragon ultra platinum).
4) An AMD/ATI Video card near the top of the line offering (I might suffer through my HD4770 that is officially too old to run some of the latest titles now and see how Vega turns out)
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I just can't hold out any longer... heh I'll definitely try to make time for some form of write up, though I'm sure [H] will have one done before me :p

It reminded me of the white Sapphire boards: Like this one, and this one, and this one but it has ugly RAM colors lol But I was a long time Gigabyte user and I have no bad things to say about them, but I just eventually had to go with MSI because I like running my system in an open bench/caseless style, as I like the look of hardware... Unfortunately Gigabyte just didn't offer anything that looked nice for AMD boards :p The ASUS Crossblade Ranger was, at the time, too much when I was building an FM2 system. However, worth mentioning, the reason I don't run that is because the MSI board was bricked through a BIOS update... :\ So while while there is that, I do partially blame myself for using the in-BIOS update route instead of a DOS boot drive like I knew better enough to use heh At any rate, one again though, I just am not thrilled with Gigabyte's styling, or I would go with them :(

I feel you with the graphics though! Up until Nov '15 I was running dual HD5770s (ASUS CuCores) that I had gotten new at release lol $120/ea and I think I got my moneys worth for sure! I was going to suggest maybe just getting something like an HD 7970 or 7950 on the cheap, and while I didn't look at the FS/FT section, the cheapest thing I could find on eBay was this $80 Sapphire HD 7950 w/ Accelero Cooler (from an R9 280X by the sounds of it heh). Even the 7870/50 were roughly the same price, and while the 7770s were oly ~$40, they only had 1GB which wouldn't cut it as a "stop gap" in my opinion.


LigTasm said:
I'll have the 8C/16T 95W chip the minute it is available as well, not sure on which board I want because I haven't seen anything from Asus yet, but the MSI Titanium does look nice. Already have a G-skill Trident 3200mhz CL14 kit that I saved from my Skylake rig.
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How does that RAM perform in terms of beyond advertised specs? Will it overclock well on the 3200's timings, and also are you able to tighten timings when at the default speeds?


Pieter3dnow said:
cpu: 8C16T 95W
Mem:G.Skill Trident Z 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14 Black/White quad kit
Motherboard: unknown
at least that is how it is looking now. some factors are dependant on what would actually work with the motherboard. I might wait for some people like Flanker to test certain motherboards and base the memory purchase on that as well.
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I think with G.Skill being such a top player in the memory market, that it's likely expected for them to be certified for at least the ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI boards.

However, I agree. It's indeed on my mind too, but I'm not horrible concerned about it. What I'm wondering is if there are going to be updated or alternative models with AMP profiles, as I guess AMD plans to try and have that become a thing again.
 
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Formula.350 said:
How does that RAM perform in terms of beyond advertised specs? Will it overclock well on the 3200's timings, and also are you able to tighten timings when at the default speeds?
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I honestly couldn't tell you, I bought the kit specifically for the tight timings at the XMP speed (and because it looks cool). I stopped being that big into overclocking about the time bulldozer came out.
 
I just use XMP settings as well.

Messing with timings just isn't worth it anymore.
 
LigTasm said:
I honestly couldn't tell you, I bought the kit specifically for the tight timings at the XMP speed (and because it looks cool). I stopped being that big into overclocking about the time bulldozer came out.
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Depends on the motherboards. I think the fastest DDR4 speed I have seen listed for an x370 board is DDR 2800 but not all have listed their memory specs. I assume at worst you can downclock the memory and tighten the latencies. I do have hope some will support DDR4 3200.
My new build is all collected other than motherboard and 1800X Ryzen. I purchased all this stuff piecemeal over the last 5 months: ThermalTale Core V71 case, G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 two 16GB modules tight timings 14-14-14-34, Samsung 950 PRO M.2 NVME 512 GB, Alphacool Eisbar 360 AIO 360mm liquid cooler ( already installed today top-mount exhaust mode, I have a recently purchased Sapphire Nitro Fury that I am currently using with my AMD 9590 cpu in my old case. I might sell it if I can buy a better Vega for no more than $400, obviously not the top VEGA, but hopefully with HBM2 memory. I will also use my Seasonic Platinum Series 860 watt power supply. I also have a TB Samsung 840 EVO and a 512 GB Samsung 850 EVO , and a 256GB 840 PRO, all SATA 3 SSD's with Windows 10 PRO on each. I am hoping I can kludge an installation with the new Ryzen drivers without doing a complete reinstall. I have too many apps to spend three days bringing the drives up to snuff. If I can do that I do NOT mind paying for a new license for windows 10 PRO to cover all these bootable partitions. I will also transfer my LG blu-ray writer.

My old AMD 9590 build with ROG Crosshair V Formula Z, and G. Skill 16 GB DDR3 2400 modules (tight timings) will be up for sale at bargain prices in the for sale forum here after March 2. I will also sell or throw in my working Swiftech H320 liquid cooler which has a 360mm radiator. It is currently working in my old rig , it is almost 3 years old so it will soon need new tubing I suspect, but it is quiet and working fine now. I even have a couple of bottles of coolant for it. I live in Brooklyn. Right now I don't have sufficient posts to post there and I will fully respect forum rules by not soliciting here. So do not contact me about this until I have 100 posts and only in for sale forum.
 
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My builds are always centered around bang for the buck, so its hard for me to pick the parts right now without seeing prices. I really want the six core, but if not available ill probably go with the cheapest eight core. While I am a hard core AMD fan, im not totally ruling out an I5-7640k build either.
 
LigTasm said:
I honestly couldn't tell you, I bought the kit specifically for the tight timings at the XMP speed (and because it looks cool). I stopped being that big into overclocking about the time bulldozer came out.
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https://us.hardware.info/reviews/68...3200-cl14-memory-review-made-for-overclockers

Not to sure on how well the testing been done but it is a beast.
Lastly we have the higher overclock settings where we tuned both the voltage and timings to our own liking. We left the memory at 4000 MHz here, which is already an impressive achievement, but we increased the voltage to 1.95 volt. This enabled us to set the timings to 12-12-12-34. A tRAS of 34 turned out to be the stablest and it also gave us the best performance, even though some theories say that you should always set it to the sum of the first three latencies.

The kit also reached 4133 MHz using CL14 and 1.95V, but the benchmark results weren't as good. We should put a clear disclaimer here: this is spectacular for overclockers, but for 24/7 usage a memory voltage of 1.95 volt is not recommended. 1.45 volt is the maximum voltage we would recommend for daily usage.
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Pieter3dnow said:
https://us.hardware.info/reviews/68...3200-cl14-memory-review-made-for-overclockers

Not to sure on how well the testing been done but it is a beast.
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Holy shi.... :bored: lmao (Unless that emote becomes animated, I don't get why it's called 'bored' heh)
I had to do a bit of a double take when I saw them say 1.95V on the RAM. I don't keep up with the Intel parts or their voltages but just in passing I didn't think they ran over 1.6V... So yea, my mind is blown that the memory is able to run at that w/o basically being insta-fried! I can honestly say I am even surprised at the 1.45V suggestion, but am glad to have that info now! I won't feel bad if I raise it to 1.4V in an attempt for improvements :D


os2wiz said:
Depends on the motherboards. I think the fastest DDR4 speed I have seen listed for an x370 board is DDR 2800 but not all have listed their memory specs. I assume at worst you can downclock the memory and tighten the latencies. I do have hope some will support DDR4 3200.
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(hahah Nice upcoming-sale droppage :p)

I could've sworn that during the CES news on the AM4 boards that I saw some of them, or at least one of the big 3 companies model/s will come with DD4-3800 overclock support, which is why I was planning ahead by looking at much higher binned stuff despite AMD's max officially supported speed being so low. Which a quick Google and I think I see where part of this notion might come from... I know how we all feel about WCCFTech but in their reporting on the MSI AM4 offerings they mention this in regards to the Titanium: "Four DDR4 DIMM slots allow for really fast memory support with capacity of up to 64 GB and speeds running past 4000 MHz (O.C.+)". Which I can definitely say that I'm skeptical about, at least in terms of what Ryzen will actually be able to pull off in most cases. I don't doubt that their circuit design isn't capable of it, but if MSI really did claim that then it's a bit of a misnomer. Again that's a big "if" they claimed it, as the pictures they included with the article of the motherboard placards both only say in the specs "DDR4-2667+OC". It's a bold claim by WCCF to infer that "DDR4 Boost" means "up to 4000MHz" though. :p

Either way I'm hopeful they will easily be able to do 3200MHz. I was already bummed out enough that the desktop Ryzens only have Dual Channel when the server models will have Octa-Channel :( lol But srsly, I was kinda hoping for quad on them. Maybe they really WILL go whole hog on immitating Intel, but offering a Super-Ryzen which is way more beefy and is like 1/2 a Naples chip :D 16C/32T or even a 12C 24T, maybe 36-40 PCIe lanes, 120W TDP? Ehh? Ehhh? :cool:
 
1700X
ASRock X370 Taichi
The same TeamGroup 32gb DDR4 DDR4 3000 in my X99 rig now

Just going to be a mobo/CPU swap out, I guess it will be a side grade to many but I only have 28 lanes so extra cores would be nice. I may do a full custom waterloop in a bequiet dark base 900 Pro but I really don't feel like dumping $1000 anymore.
 
If the shop BLT prices are anything to go buy,
1700X for $380 decent enough
ASrock or Gigabyte B350 board

Ram will come down to what I find the cheapest that works.

Should be able to manage all that under $650, I could spend more, but I don't see the point of going willy nilly on this version of Ryzen. I just want to play around with AMD stuffs again.
 
Most likely:

1400X or maybe 1600X (depends on price)
Asus/Gigabyte/MSI X370
whatever speed RAM kit makes the most sense based on reviews
 
Going to build either an mATX or mITX case that can support my GTX 980ti in it. 16GB of ECC ram pending support. 7.1 Asus sound card and 10gb NIC. No SSD no Drive. GOing to network boot into my NAS over 10gb LAN via Intel 750 400GB in the NAS.
 
It will depend on when and what ITX boards come out. I have a Asrock Z97 ITX board and I have really liked the quality and quantity asrock add for a low price.
 
I have a budget to spend about 400€ on CPU/mobo/RAM.
Will probably take the cheapest AM4 mobo that supports ECC memory,
along with 16 GB DDR4-2400 unbuffered ECC (~145€ currently).
The rest will be spent on the CPU, and I will take more low clocked cores over fewer high clocked ones if I have the choice.

Speculation: Ryzen R5-1500 (6C/12T) might compete against Intel Core i5-7500 (~200€ currently) so would fit the bill if true.

Of course, this depends on whether any AM4 mobos at all will support ECC. If not, then I'll pass, no more AMD for me.
 
Depends on availability of mini-ITX boards. I'll get a budget one for a HTPC upgrade.
 
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I have my case picked out now I'm just deciding on the power supply. I'm thinking of picking up one of these. They seem pretty nice.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151160&ignorebbr=1

Not sure if it is overkill or not. Might be worth getting the 850 just in case I need more down the road. CPU and the gtx 1080 will be the biggest power consumers. After that motherboard, 8 fans, and h115i cooler. 850 EVO sata SSD.

The 650W is a lot cheaper.
 
I already have a Phanteks Enthoo Evolv with a few mods so I have to wait for a x300 chipset now which may be a couple months. The 65W 8 core unlimited turbo SKU sounds like a elite level CPU in a SFF setup. sign me up.
 
Riptide_NVN said:
I have my case picked out now I'm just deciding on the power supply. I'm thinking of picking up one of these. They seem pretty nice.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151160&ignorebbr=1

Not sure if it is overkill or not. Might be worth getting the 850 just in case I need more down the road. CPU and the gtx 1080 will be the biggest power consumers. After that motherboard, 8 fans, and h115i cooler. 850 EVO sata SSD.

The 650W is a lot cheaper.
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Majorly overkill, I got a Superflower Leadek 650 Gold fully modular for much cheaper on conversion and that thing has a solid 12v rail.
 
Tempted to buy 8C for my server, but I really want to wait until I know the if Ryzen platform (including motherboards) will support ECC ram. If the answer on ECC ram is positive, then depending on the funds and pricing I may get one for my server right away. May also wait for end of year, maybe Microcenter/Frys will offer a good Ryzen bundle? That would be really sweet.

Any official word on ECC support?
 
Does anyone know if Corsair will provide the updated brackets for AM4 like i see a lot of other manufactures doing? Or will the h115 and 110 still work?
 
thyfleshconsumed said:
Tempted to buy 8C for my server, but I really want to wait until I know the if Ryzen platform (including motherboards) will support ECC ram. If the answer on ECC ram is positive, then depending on the funds and pricing I may get one for my server right away. May also wait for end of year, maybe Microcenter/Frys will offer a good Ryzen bundle? That would be really sweet.

Any official word on ECC support?
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Why would you have to wait til the end of the year for a good bundle? Micro Center always has a good motherboard-cpu bundle price.
 
I called them last week and was told there would be an announcement. That is all they would tell me at the time. So far they are quiet on the website. I emailed them again today about it.

I would be surprised if the h115/110 work without needing a bracket but I suspect they will be free or cheap to new customers.
 
os2wiz said:
Why would you have to wait til the end of the year for a good bundle? Micro Center always has a good motherboard-cpu bundle price.
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Because what I have right now is good enough, I want to wait to be absolutely sure ECC ram works, I want to be more responsible with my money (ugh), and there might be a good deal around BF at one of those places. Basically being responsible sucks.
 
Well considering I want to replace my current dying mobo and the i7 3770k (and the DDr3), I want to know what the best bang for the buck will be. I don't want to spend over $300 on a CPU (although I might go to 350ish), but would prefer 250 or so + new mobo + 16 gig DDR4 and a new PSU as well. I will be carrying over the 3x SSDs and GTX 1060. Hopefully I can get this stuff in the 2nd week of March. Anyone think the 1700 base CPU would be a decent performance boost over my current rig?
 
I'm going to build one but I'm waiting for the new GPUs to come out so I can do an all-AMD rig.
 
My plan is that hopefully the 8C/16T 65W will be under $450 but I am willing to spend a little more for the same chip (i want the 65w) if they offer a decent mini-itx motherboard for under $160. I will add to this the best possible memory I can get as well as a gtx 1080.
 
i been planning a upgrade to x99 but i will tell you the recent leaks have me thinking hard about going with a amd 8 core i know you gota take leaks with a grain of salt but stuff looks promising i have to wait 2 months on taxes so i got time to watch reviews.
 
I got my eye on the 95W 6c 1600X. All comes down to pricing and OC potential. I'll go for 8c if they can OC well enough at ~$400.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
I got my eye on the 95W 6c 1600X. All comes down to pricing and OC potential. I'll go for 8c if they can OC well enough at ~$400.
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Only the X variants have better overclocking ability, the other chips whether 8 core , 5 core , or 4 core will have more limited overclock ability.
 
AMD Ryzen 7 1700
Biostar X350GT3
AMD R9 Fury (Or Vega successor)
16GB DDR4 2400Mhz
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB (Recycling from my current rig)
Samsung 2TB HD204UI HD (Recycling from my current rig)
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
I got my eye on the 95W 6c 1600X. All comes down to pricing and OC potential. I'll go for 8c if they can OC well enough at ~$400.
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The Ryzen 1700X should be your chip priced right at $400 price level. And since it has XFR support you should be able to do a decent over clock on it.
 
Ira Wechsler said:
The Ryzen 1700X should be your chip priced right at $400 price level. And since it has XFR support you should be able to do a decent over clock on it.
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If the 6c is capable of 4.5 GHz+ and the 8c can only do ~4 GHz, I'll probably go with the 6.
If none of them compete with the 7700K at 5+ GHz then I'm going with Intel again.

It's gonna be an interesting few weeks.
 
Well, I just bought 16GB of GSkill DDR4 2800 ram so I will be ready. (2 x 8GB) I think I will just upgrade my home machine at first and wait on the work computer until later in the year. Cannot really afford to do both at the same time and if I just do the one, the 1700X or even 1800X will both be an option.
 
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