Intel: Cannonlake Will Be over 15 Percent Faster Than Kaby Lake

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We’ll have to wait until Cannonlake’s debut in the second half of the year before we can get some real numbers, but the bigwigs at Intel want you to believe that the improvement will be similar to the jump from Skylake to Kaby Lake. You might say that Cannonlake is kind of a big deal, being the company’s first 10-nm chip—even if the performance increase turns out to be so-so, maybe it will impress on the lower power consumption thing. The article would suggest that Intel is totally invested in performance improvements thanks in large part to eSports and other elements of gaming.

Intel’s upcoming Cannonlake chips will deliver a performance improvement of more than 15 percent compared to its Kaby Lake chips, said Venkata Renduchintala, president of the Intel Client and Internet of Things businesses and Systems Architecture Group. Intel didn’t provide exact numbers at the company’s annual investor day Thursday, but the projection is based on the SysMark benchmark. Detailed performance improvement numbers will emerge over time. The performance improvements from Skylake to Kaby Lake topped out at 15 percent. The CPU performance boost for Cannonlake should be at least that, Intel said.
 
I hope so. I don't put much faith in it. But, I hope so. Don't they always promise big improvements but we only see small ones in real life usage?
 
One can only hope. My Sandy Bridge is starting to show its age. It's 5 years old and spent most of its life at 4.7ghz on air. This last year I had to drop it down to 4.3ghz as the heat is starting to climb no matter what I do. Poor chip :( it did me extremely well over the years.
 
Prisoner849 said:
Please compel me to part with my 4770k.
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I havn't been compelled to replace my Xeon W3690 3.46ghz 6core. (overclocked ofcourse) the 3770, 4770, 6770, 7770k... none of them have been a serious upgrade. I've been eyeballing this Ryzen thing, but I hear about AM4 and maybe a AM4+ and that worries me. I don't want to have their gen 2 chips not work on it like Intel always does. So I may keep riding this very very old horse abit longer. Plus getting 48GB again in DDR4 is cost prohibitive lol. Although with quad channel id need 64GB to match.

I wonder what Ryzen supports. I guess we will find out REALLY soon wont we?
 
AliceCooper said:
One can only hope. My Sandy Bridge is starting to show its age. It's 5 years old and spent most of its life at 4.7ghz on air. This last year I had to drop it down to 4.3ghz as the heat is starting to climb no matter what I do. Poor chip :( it did me extremely well over the years.
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My W3690 is from 2011 :) still going at 4.275ghz. It never did overclock past that without extreme voltage. But it's still holding on just fine. I used to be on air but I switched to the H100 then the NZXT X61. Wonder if that had a effect on the longevity.
 
Yeah, my 2600k might be a little long in the tooth, but with the 1080 I have with it, is it REALLY that much of a difference for anything I play nowadays, since seriously, I'm playing WoW, Skyrim, Torchlight 2, and Witcher 3? I am VERY happy to see Intel *might* be taking AMD serious finally. And yes, I'll beleive it only when I see it, and see it at an affordable $$$.
 
The article would suggest that Intel is totally invested in performance improvements thanks in large part to eSports and other elements of gaming.
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In otherwords, the iGPU will be 15% faster, but generally still crappy, with NO improvements to the IPC of the CPU or the core MHz

Different day, same @#$@#$ marketing.
 
AliceCooper said:
One can only hope. My Sandy Bridge is starting to show its age. It's 5 years old and spent most of its life at 4.7ghz on air. This last year I had to drop it down to 4.3ghz as the heat is starting to climb no matter what I do. Poor chip :( it did me extremely well over the years.
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Stupid question, but have you replaced the HS? They sometimes leak the LP fluid inside slowly over time, making them less effective.
 
What's that you say? Intel is maybe making better CPUs now? Could it be AMD forced them to do this? Nah, couldn't be.
 
Only way I'll be bummed is if they release a 6 core chip that can run at 5Ghz, and the cost is the same as the 7700k. Doubt that will happen.

My 7700k@5Ghz should be fine for many years. Only addition I see is maybe a 2 or 4 GB SSD when they get a lot cheaper.
 
Ur_Mom said:
I hope so. I don't put much faith in it. But, I hope so. Don't they always promise big improvements but we only see small ones in real life usage?
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that's just the hardware industry as a whole.. find that one synthetic test and one setup that gets the performance numbers they want and the marketing team runs with it. my guess is 10-16% better multi-threaded performance with cannonlake, same IPC/single threaded performance as kaby lake.
 
DukenukemX said:
What's that you say? Intel is maybe making better CPUs now? Could it be AMD forced them to do this? Nah, couldn't be.
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Given how long one of these CPUs has been in development by the time it hits retail, you really can't say "AMD forced them". Remember that regardless of what AMD does, Intel's largest competitor is still the last thing they released.
 
Twisted Kidney said:
Sure. Call me when it's been tested on a site I bother with.

Oh wait, there's only one.
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Well said, well said! Yes, they have noticed Ryzen, from a source. And I am personally excited about the chips, overclocking will be fun again!
 
I can't even begin to be excited by "15% faster". I'm still waiting for doubling my speed from my 2600k. Guess I'll keep waiting.
 
Shotglass01 said:
They also said Kaby would do 5GHz on air.
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My Kaby does 5Ghz, on air. Completely stable and under 80c except when I run Prime.
That's why I have the AVX Offset at 7. Slows it down to 4.3 (all 4 cores at that speed) when running prime or other high stress apps like video compression. It runs Prime for hours with it occasionally peaking at 82 and a nosier fan at 1300 RPM.


Under normal use the core temps are around 40, with a low/quit fan speed of 250 rpm (I wanted a quiet system)
 
until it actually doubles the clock of my 2500k, i'll pass. if 8 cores/16 threads of ryzen really is sub 400$? amd has my undivided attention.
 
Still have 2600k and 2500k, what really has me looking to upgrade is not CPU speed but pciexpress lanes and NVME capabilities. So will a chipset accompany this processor. I would like to see motherboards that support 3+ full speed m.2 ports so that I can buy another computer and then as nvme ssds come down in price start populating it and forget about hard drives forever.
 
We'll see. Intel normally says that each iteration will give us up to 11% or more and we normally find the actual numbers to be 3%-7% at best. Intel has always exaggerated the performance improvement of its processors post Sandy Bridge. In my two decades of being in the industry, I've never seen such incremental improvements in technology as we've had over the last 6 or 7 years. I understand the reasons why this is the case, but I don't have to like it.
 
ammosponge said:
until it actually doubles the clock of my 2500k, i'll pass. if 8 cores/16 threads of ryzen really is sub 400$? amd has my undivided attention.
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I don't understand this statement. A newer CPU doesn't need to double your 2500K's clock speeds to be a worth while upgrade. I agree that 8c/16t is worth looking at if the price is right but it doesn't make sense to act like that's going to be a good upgrade for gaming while Kaby Lake isn't. Those extra cores and threads mean jack shit 95% of the time. I've run 6, 8 and 10 core CPUs and there i no perceptible differnce between a top end X99 rig and a Z270 rig in games. You'd have to replace the motherboard, RAM and CPU in both cases. Kaby Lake doesn't cost $400 so you'd be in the same boat with either path.

I'm not saying you should go with Kaby Lake. If your sitting on your 2500K because Kaby Lake doesn't offer enough performance improvement for gaming to upgrade, Ryzen isn't going to be a better performing or more cost effective option than Kaby Lake. 8c/16t certainly have advantages in other cases, but it really won't make a difference in common desktop applications run by most home users.
 
Is there any word on whether or not Cannonlake will drop in to 200 Series boards?

Or Optane stuff for those M.2 ports?
 
In the immortal words of Humble Bellows, "My humble eyes will believe it, when my humble eyes see it"

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IIIII'm not sure what you are going for there. Swiss Family Robinson?
 
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