New collectible build : FX 5800 Ultra

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Opinion / Recommendations? Building around the FX 5800 Ultra, that piece won't change, so far I have purchased everything except the GPU, but in the future can make changes:


NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 Ultra | Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra-939 | 4x 1GB G.Skill PC4000 DDR (Samsung UCCC 3-4-4-8) | AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (Manchester) | Maxtor Atlas 15K II Ultra 320 75GB | Antec Earthwatts 380W
 
cyclone3d said:
I put SSDs in all my retro builds.
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I may do that eventually, but this Atlas 15K II is a relic from my past back in those days, and i'd like to hear her fly once more. Glad that this board does have SATA ports though
 
NF3 SATA ports are only 1.5Gb/s, though. Wouldn't do much, even with an SSD. It'll cut access times to nothing, but the STR will be wasted. The 15K U320 drive is more contemporary and gives similar benefits.

Now you need a really terribly generic beige case, or if you're going completely contemporary, something like an Antec Lanboy.
 
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Forge said:
NF3 SATA ports are only 1.5Gb/s, though. Wouldn't do much, even with an SSD. It'll cut access times to nothing, but the STR will be wasted. The 15K U320 drive is more contemporary and gives similar benefits.

Now you need a really terribly generic beige case, or if you're going completely contemporary, something like an Antec Lanboy.
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And access times are what an SSD is used for in an older system like that. I even have an SSD in my DOS/Win98SE system. Yes, there are SATA cards that have Win9x drivers.
 
The nForce3 Ultra S939 / AGP8X board arrived today. It came with an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (Winchester) 2.0 GHz and 1GB of PC2700 (VDATA VDD9608A8A-5C). Will be replaced by an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and also 4x 1GB G.Skill PC4000 as mentioned above.


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Beige case isn't a requirement by far. I remember having an aluminum & silver plastic Antec window case during that time period.

Ugly plastic is required though.
 
I have a agp Nvidia 6800XT... switched to it after the 4200TI
 
What's better the SiI3512 or the nForce3 Ultra SATA implementation? The SiI3512 is riding the 32-bit 33 MHz PCI bus it seems,

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I want to disable the Marvell 8001 LAN, TSB82AA2 / TSB81BA3, and possibly SiI3512 SATA controller (if it's worse than nForce3 Ultra SATA) to free up as much bandwidth as possible on the 32-bit 33 MHz PCI bus for my LSI21320-IS Ultra 320 SCSI controller
 
do you hear 1 long beep and 2 short? or 1 long and 3 short? if it's the former then it makes sense as i don't have a display adapter (video card) installed yet.
 
horrorshow said:
1 long, 2 short.
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excellent, that's video card, which isn't installed...

i cleared the CMOS, but after the 1 long and 2 short beeps after some time, the CPU FAN stops the Unified SB/NB HSF stays on though... any reason for concern?
 
Why not pop in the video card first?

Old school motherboards are delicate.

Get rid of the beeps first.

Also, double check all your connections.
 
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horrorshow said:
Why not pop in the video card first?

Old school motherboards are delicate.

Get rid of the beeps first.
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Waiting for an Universal AGP "2x/4x" ATI Xpert 2000 Pro 32MB card that will hopefully run at 4x 1.5V to test. got it for $4 shipped on eBay
 
I had a Gigabyte K8 series board myself.

They can be quite finicky. I'd just wait till you have a video card to test....
 
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erek said:
Waiting for an Universal AGP "2x/4x" ATI Xpert 2000 Pro 32MB card that will hopefully run at 4x 1.5V to test. got it for $4 shipped on eBay
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Are you telling me you don't have a PCI test video card laying around somewhere?

Man, you're a greenhorn here :D

AGP generations are picky about interchangeability, but most PCI video cards are universal voltage. So get a PCI card from at least 1997 onward if you want to save yourself some stress.
 
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Also, you don't have to run Beige case, that's totally 90s

This was the container for my Socket 939 AGP Athlon 64 build. VERY quiet, and VERY sexy :D

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Have a bulging cap I may replace, ordered 3x 3300uf 6.3v replacements


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Here's the actual setup currently with a ViewSonic VP140 LCD Monitor

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Peter Glaskowsky, the Editor in Chief of MicroProcessor Report has named Geforce FX best Graphics Processor of 2002.


Nvidia spokesman Derek Perez said "The GeForce FX is a quantum leap in technology," he said. "I don't think the numbers paint the whole picture."
 
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Oh wow, that is frigging awesome erek :woot:

And of course, you know where else you need to post the pics of that? :LOL:
 
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stinger608 said:
Oh wow, that is frigging awesome erek :woot:

And of course, you know where else you need to post the pics of that? :LOL:
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It seems to be pretty rare, let us wait until I can take my own personal photos


The GeForce FX 5800 Ultra, however, has some advantages: first of all, its rarity (only 100,000 chips were made, 50,000 of which were used for Quadro FX for 3D professionals, 30,000 for GeForce FX 5800 for OEM companies and only 20,000 chips for retail cards, - if you divide this figure by the number of partners who had a desire to bring out 5800 based cards, the figure will be very low).

Read more at http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/gffx/leadtek-5800u.html#IuZyJIj4UBxWVxWD.99
 
Progress, the ATI Xpert 2000 Pro ("Universal AGP 2x/4x 1.5V) test Video Card arrived: going to be installing Windows XP Pro 32-bit on a 160GB SATA drive and then backing up whatever interesting data might be on the SCSI:

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Replacing this dodgy, out-of-spec ultra320 cable with a flat one..., but got the scsi drive backed up and installing xp 32-bit pro:

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so my +5V line ...
+5V = Min: 1.7V Max:5.5V



+12V / +3.3V is good.. could the +5V be a major issue with it rippling majorly?

"To be honest, it seems that ALL gigabyte boards read the 5V rail as unstable. Mine current 939 one does, my old k8ns-pro did, my bro's k8n-pro...ALL had the 5v rail jump all over the place, I highly doubt this is your issue here...All these had the SAME issue with the SAME software(speedfan).."
 
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2.3 Performance Tuning for Windows XP

Windows XP has registry entries that can be used to tune the performance
of SCSI I/O for certain configurations. The tunable parameters are large
transfer block size support and a guaranteed number of concurrent I/Os for a
particular SCSI bus.

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2.3.1 Large Block Size Support

The SYMMPI.SYS drivers can support up to a 1 Mbyte transfer size in
Windows XP; however, the default Windows XP transfer size is 64 Kbytes. To
enable better performance, the driver installation process adds a registry
entry to enable the maximum 1 Mbyte transfer size. Also, the mpi_256K.reg
file can be used to set or enable a 256 Kbytes maximum, but it can be
edited to set other desired maximum transfer sizes. There are two methods to
add this registry setting.

1. Locate the mpi_256K.reg data file (supplied with the driver files) using
Windows Explorer and double-click on the file.

-OR-

2. Type at the command prompt:

regedit mpi_256K.reg

This inserts an entry in the registry to enable 256 Kbytes block size support.

Editing the mpi_256K.reg can set any maximum block size between 64 Kbytes and
1 Mbyte. The formula to calculate the proper value for MaximumSGList is:

MaximumSGList = ((Maximum Block Size)/4 Kbytes) +1

For 256 Kbytes: 256 Kbytes/4 Kbytes = 64. Add 1 for 65 (decimal) or
0x41 (hexadecimal). The maximum value allowed for MaximumSGLIst is 255 or
0xFF. For the particular value of 0xFF, the internal value passed to Windows
is increased to 0x101, allowing support for a full 1 Mbyte transfer. Be sure
to read the information in the mpi_256K.reg data file before editing it.

The system must be rebooted for the new registry setting to be effective.

To reset the maximum block size to the operating system default of 64 Kbytes,
follow the instructions above, except use mpidfblk.reg as the data file.

NOTE: For IA64 systems, the OS page size is 8 Kbytes instead of 4 Kbytes.
Therefore, the maximum transfer size is 2 Mbytes, the default driver
installation enables support for 512 Kbytes transfer size, and the
formula becomes:

MaximumSGList = ((Maximum Block Size)/8 Kbytes) +1

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2.3.2 Maximum Number of Concurrent I/Os (Guaranteed)

Windows XP guarantees a maximum of 32 concurrent I/Os active on a
particular SCSI bus. However, due to the method of memory allocation, the
actual limit of concurrent I/Os can vary greatly between various drivers or
versions of drivers. This can have a huge impact on performance benchmarking
between different driver versions or adapter vendors. In effect, one adapter
may actually be able to have 70 or 80 I/Os outstanding, while another adapter
could only have 32. This can also affect systems with high performance storage
subsystems, such as disk arrays.

In order to enable better performance, the driver installation process adds a
registry entry to support 255 concurrent I/Os. If a different maximum value is
desired, the file mpi100io.reg can be used to add a registry entry to guarantee
the desired number of concurrent I/Os.

There are two methods to add this registry setting. One is to locate the
mpi100io.reg data file (supplied with the driver files) using Windows Explorer
and double click on the file. The other method is to type at the command
prompt:

regedit mpi100io.reg

This inserts an entry in the registry to guarantee a maximum of 100
concurrent I/Os per adapter.

If a maximum other than 100 is desired, the mpi100io.reg can be edited;
however, setting this value to a high number uses increasing amounts of
non-paged pool memory, a critical NT resource. High values for this setting
can degrade system performance. Be sure to read the information in the
mpi100io.reg data file before editing it.

The system must be rebooted for the new registry setting to be effective.

To reset the guaranteed number of concurrent I/Os to the operating system
default of 32, follow the instructions above, except use mpidefio.reg as the
data file.
 
Starting to look real tasty there erek!

Pity you don't have a Toledo for the extra cache but oh well.

I ran a X2 4400+, Gigabyte K8 board, 4GB, AMD 3850 system from 2006-2009.

Loved that rig.

Can't wait to see some proper old school benches once the card arrives!!
 
horrorshow said:
Starting to look real tasty there erek!

Pity you don't have a Toledo for the extra cache but oh well.

I ran a X2 4400+, Gigabyte K8 board, 4GB, AMD 3850 system from 2006-2009.

Loved that rig.

Can't wait to see some proper old school benches once the card arrives!!
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I have 3300uf 6.3V caps to replace on the mobo though, as they're bulging
 
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