New 1080 Ti Rumor

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But first a nugget of gold handed to us from a friendly rep at the MSI booth, which provides a bit more insight into what's going on over at Nvidia (info Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang apparently wasn't ready to share personally). It turns out that there really is such thing as the GTX 1080 Ti, and not only will it be available from board partners (MSI being one of the biggest), but it will be coming around PAX East 2017, which kicks off on March 10, 2017. You heard it here first, folks!
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Source: http://techbuyersguru.com/ces-2017-amds-ryzen-and-vega-revealed
 
Titan XP was really released too early now that I think of it. Its never in the same year as the GX104 series.
 
My guess is that Nvidia is waiting for AMD to reveal their cards before launching the 1080 Ti.
 
Napoleon said:
Can someone put together a calendar of all the big tech shows in 2017 so we can properly hype each one up? Hypeleague2017
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You act like this is something new. The day of a new hardware release, there is a thread about the next generation.
 
a nugget of gold handed to us from a friendly rep at the MSI booth
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I call BS. What are the chances of an employed rep at the trade show, breaking NDA? Any takers? Open themselves up to lawsuits at a trade show with Nvidia present?
 
No, I am serious.

GK104 - 2012
GK110 Titan - 2013

GM104 - 2014
GM100 Titan X - 2015

GP104 - 2016
GP102 Titan - 2016


My point is, this 1080ti is right on time if you go by history.
 
Just ordered a gtx 1080. The heck with these rumors. These rumor sites don't know squat.
 
I sold my 1080 in December like a fool thinking the 1080 Ti would come out in January. Luckily I found a good deal on a 1070 but unfortunately it was DOA displaying no video. good times...
 
Rizen said:
Titan XP has been worth it for me.
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There is nothing "Titan" about that card to me. It has the same amount of vram a 1080 Ti would have and it is not even a fully enabled gpu. And that cooler would not cut it for me and I will be damned if I am paying 1200 bucks for a card to install another cooler on it. I can only stomach getting ripped of so much and 1200 bucks for what used to be a x70 level card like the $350 570 is just too much for me to justify.
 
misterbobby said:
There is nothing "Titan" about that card to me. It has the same amount of vram a 1080 Ti would have and it is not even a fully enabled gpu. And that cooler would not cut it for me and I will be damned if I am paying 1200 bucks for a card to install another cooler on it. I can only stomach getting ripped of so much and 1200 bucks for what used to be a x70 level card like the $350 570 is just too much for me to justify.
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Same amount of VRAM as the unicorn 1080Ti...don't state specs regarding a card that we know nothing of.
 
DarksidePC said:
Same amount of VRAM as the unicorn 1080Ti...don't state specs regarding a card that we know nothing of.
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Use some common sense and pay attention to the context. The vram is not doubled up like on the last Titan cards. If and when a 1080 Ti comes out it will almost certainly be 12 GB or at worst 10 GB. Of course you already know that but just want to stir up crap.
 
misterbobby said:
There is nothing "Titan" about that card to me. It has the same amount of vram a 1080 Ti would have and it is not even a fully enabled gpu. And that cooler would not cut it for me and I will be damned if I am paying 1200 bucks for a card to install another cooler on it. I can only stomach getting ripped of so much and 1200 bucks for what used to be a x70 level card like the $350 570 is just too much for me to justify.
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I came to the same conclusion. I understood why nVidia did it, just wasn't the Titan I was looking for.
 
misterbobby said:
Use some common sense and pay attention to the context. The vram is not doubled up like on the last Titan cards. If and when a 1080 Ti comes out it will almost certainly be 12 GB or at worst 10 GB. Of course you already know that but just want to stir up crap.
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Almost certainly? Is that kinda like definitely maybe? You are talking sideways out of your arse.

I'm glad I skipped the 1080 Ti bullshit waiting game all together. Titan XP all the way fully decked out with an EK water block for almost 6 months now. No regrets. None. Go [H]ard or go home.
 
Supercharged_Z06 said:
Almost certainly? Is that kinda like definitely maybe? You are talking sideways out of your arse.

I'm glad I skipped the 1080 Ti bullshit waiting game all together. Titan XP all the way fully decked out with an EK water block for almost 6 months now. No regrets. None. Go [H]ard or go home.
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You sure do have a fucking attitude problem for no reason at all. Are you that god damn insecure that my personal reasons for not getting the Titan some how disrupted your perfect world? :rolleyes:
 
When I consider buying a 1200 dollar video card I think of a whole another computer I could build. I like to think I spend too much but that shit just does not make sense to me. What's in that's actually worth 1200? Only reason it's worth 1200 is because nvidia can charge 1200 and people will pay. Now I do have 1200 to spend and even more but why? I will never spend anything more than 500-550 on a top end video card, heck I will stretch it to 600 if it is worth the money but 1200? Nvidia takes everyone for fools and believe it or not there are a lot of people lining up for bragging rights and buying it for benchmarks.
 
NKD said:
When I consider buying a 1200 dollar video card I think of a whole another computer I could build. I like to think I spend too much but that shit just does not make sense to me. What's in that's actually worth 1200? Only reason it's worth 1200 is because nvidia can charge 1200 and people will pay. Now I do have 1200 to spend and even more but why? I will never spend anything more than 500-550 on a top end video card, heck I will stretch it to 600 if it is worth the money but 1200? Nvidia takes everyone for fools and believe it or not there are a lot of people lining up for bragging rights and buying it for benchmarks.
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I think we get it, you dont like expensive cards. And you dont like people buying them despite they love the performance and quality behind.

You never buy anything expensive and high quality do you? Living in a tiny home? Driving a compact car? Using a small TV? Only eating discount segment food?

See? :oops:

1200$ is not a lot of money in this world. However where you spend it is another matter. But dont call people fools just because they got different priorities.
 
Shintai said:
I think we get it, you dont like expensive cards. And you dont like people buying them despite they love the performance and quality behind.

You never buy anything expensive and high quality do you? Living in a tiny home? Driving a compact car? Using a small TV? Only eating discount segment food?

See? :oops:
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It's a not a fuckin necessity of life for me spend 1200 for video card. Even then shit doesn't give you playable performance in every game. Can you guarantee me I pull up a game and I get 60+ fps in every game at 4K.
Oh and did you just compare a graphics card to home you live in and food you eat and keeps you alive and car that takes you to work and back and long travels. Your example is just fucking stupid. Seriously is that how you justify buying a video card, comparing it to home, food and car? Fuckin stupid. It's pointless talking to you, all you do is piss people off and come from hate. I wasn't calling anyone out. It was just my opinion. Stop your childish responses. Get a life.

And where did I call people fools? I said nvidia takes people for fools! There is a differences. Again you just are someone who likes to create problem.
 
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Yeah I do not think the Titan is worth the price they charge, too expensive for a cut-core 'flagship' prosumer, but it still has a market and they have moved this card further away from consumer retail; you can only buy from certain Nvidia approved retailers who also usually do Tesla/Quadro.
But they caused a headache for themselves as they have the issue of several models competiting with themselves if they did not do this differentiation.
P40 has no FP16, if it did it would be faster than the P100 in every way but FP64, people forget P40 has 12TFLOPs FP32 compared to the 9.3 or 10.6 of the P100, but the P100 also has strong FP64.
Titan also would have 12TFLOPs if it was a full core, therefore eating sales from the Tesla P40 and currently also does same accelerated dot functions as the P40.
And then what to do about the 1080ti, keep same as the cut Pascal Titan and risk cannibalising sales from it, they cannot give it full core without some serious performance clipping in another way otherwise why even bother buying the Titan Pascal, and some may even consider the 1080ti in that scenario even over the Tesla P40 (this has a retail price over $4k but with 24GB VRAM).
Compounding this would also be some loss of sales in the Quadro range, not everyone would move away from Tesla/Quadro but some sales would be lost.

IMO they really should had given the P40 FP16 but it could be technical challenges of having a GPU doing both FP16 and Int8 accelerated (the AMD slides for Vega are not clear exactly how accelerated Int8 is configured so it may be a technical challenge), that way the Titan Pascal could also had been full core while the 1080ti could then be what Titan Pascal currently is with each card have notable differentiation and market segment focus.
Ah well, Nvidia now has a headache because of this in differentiating the upper cards in a good way.
Cheers
 
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NKD said:
It's a not a fuckin necessity of life for me spend 1200 for video card. Even then shit doesn't give you playable performance in every game. Can you guarantee me I pull up a game and I get 60+ fps in every game at 4K.
Oh and did you just compare a graphics card to home you live in and food you eat and keeps you alive and car that takes you to work and back and long travels. Your example is just fucking stupid. Seriously is that how you justify buying a video card, comparing it to home, food and car? Fuckin stupid. It's pointless talking to you, all you do is piss people off and come from hate. I wasn't calling anyone out. It was just my opinion. Stop your childish responses. Get a life.
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So in short you really just wanted a 1200$ product cheaper and are angry because its not.
 
TBH, sub $600 1080's are sounding better and better by the day...
 
Shintai said:
So in short you really just wanted a 1200$ product cheaper and are angry because its not.
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No I am not mad bahahahahhaa. You just take everything critical of nvidia and go on defense. Hope your $1200 card can feed you and take you places, and you can live under its cooler. Glad you justify it that way. Cheers. I have a great job ignoring you in other threads and I will continue that.
 
I never understood why every generation of GPU we had people attempting to justify their purchases to an audience.
 
{NG}Fidel said:
I never understood why every generation of GPU we had people attempting to justify their purchases to an audience.
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I don't think anyone has been doing that, but there are posters trolling those who stated they were happy with their purchase and that's where it started.
 
There's really no wrong answer with value unless you buy a Titan XP right before the ti drop. :)

Hell my car has heated/cooled seats. That was $2,400. Skip those and I could have had two Titan XPs. They really don't cost much in the scheme of things. Especially if you buy them on release and keep them for a while.
 
Dayaks said:
There's really no wrong answer with value unless you buy a Titan XP right before the ti drop. :)

Hell my car has heated/cooled seats. That was $2,400. Skip those and I could have had two Titan XPs. They really don't cost much in the scheme of things. Especially if you buy them on release and keep them for a while.
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When we bought the woman's suv the option for the entertainment/dvd/navigation system was $5k. I said F that to the man, and installed by myself a full pioneer nav setup with second row display, etc for $1.5K. Course, I had to tear apart the console and fab up bondo a new fascia and dismantle their chained components but it was worth it. The way the Subaru Tribeca console was design forces 99.9% of buyers into paying for the option. I couldn't stomach using DVD's for navigation maps lol.
 
I really wish I had the dough for a 1080 (even a 1070..) and I totally get that a miniscule upgrade is worth it for some people (it's their hobby, job etc) but what percent increase would the "ti" give you over the base 1080?

I just can't remember seeing this much anticipation and excitement over what would be arguably a small increase. If you are putting that much money into a card, why wouldn't you just get the Titan?

I do hope it comes out though, as it's good for the industry.
 
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