Talk me out of a GTX 1080 (Post CES Decision)

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Hi. So on launch, I bought an Asus Strix GTX OC 1080 that didn't work up to specs. In OC mode it would crash in benchmarks (heaven, etc). I worked fine when I moved it down to regular mode but I wasn't happy with it knowing I had paid for an OC that didn't work.

At the end of September, I sold this card (stating all of the above) at a fairly steep discount because I was disappointed with it. I was also hoping a TI card would come out before my gaming itch came back too hard. I've had to use integrated graphics ever since.

Since Nvidia hosed me when they didn't announce a GTX 1080 TI card today, I'm thinking about buying the msi gtx 1080 gaming x ($599 after rebate) at newegg. I'd like to be patient and wait for the TI but I'm getting the gaming itch hard lately. Used 1080 prices really aren't much cheaper than the MSI card and I actually like that card. Considered it originally but it was too expensive. Now it's not overpriced.

DECISION:

So... what do you think: Suck up my pride and buy the 1080 now OR keep waiting for the gtx 1080 ti. Honestly I'd like to keep waiting but, as I stated, I'm starting to itch for a card.

I'm guessing I'm not the only person around here not sure what to do after the lack of the TI announcement today. Thanks for weighing in on my stupid dilemma!
 
That's a constant dilemma. You want now? Buy now. I got my 1080 back in early June and been enjoying the performance for 6 months already. The Ti might not even come out after all and just replicate the 600s in that regard. Considering that you can already get high quality 1080 for less than 600...
 
Wait for Vega to see how well the price/performance is. It is possible Vega will drop the 1080 price.

If you can't wait buy a 1080.
 
Seems like you wanted more then just a 1080 performance. As in an OC 1080 would barely meet what you really want. A regular clocked 1080 is not slow by no means but you sold it anyways for a loss??? To play on integrated graphics?

Many options while you wait for the 1080Ti (performance you really want):
  1. Just buy a Titan XP Pascal and be done with it - That performance level would be most likely the best for all of 2017 even if Vega beats it, I doubt it will be by much and not in everything - More likely Nvidia will usher out a Black addition with a fully enabled shader count to beat Vega - real gaming difference would probably be very little. If you really want the best then you are going to have to pay for it.
  2. Buy a standby card to play a few games that play rather well with it - for example a cheap FuryX and Doom and Quake which should be coming out - sell once you get your dream card
    1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=fury_x-_-14-202-186-_-Product
    2. https://www.amazon.com/XFX-R9-FURY-...ie=UTF8&qid=1483683843&sr=1-1&keywords=Fury+X
  3. 980Ti used since they are such a bargain now - sell once you get your dream card
    1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForc...714102?hash=item43fbd2f036:g:p6MAAOSwo4pYaCml
  4. Experiment with SLI/CFX on some Ebay cards - hey have some fun - resell or put on the barbecue for a YouTube Video once you trash them (have some fun in the mean time)
  5. Wait - F__K that
 
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noko said:
Seems like you wanted more then just a 1080 performance. As in an OC 1080 would barely meet what you really want. A regular clocked 1080 is not slow by no means but you sold it anyways for a loss??? To play on integrated graphics?

Many options while you wait for the 1080Ti (performance you really want):
  1. Just buy a Titan XP Pascal and be done with it - That performance level would be most likely the best for all of 2017 even if Vega beats it, I doubt it will be by much and not in everything - More likely Nvidia will usher out a Black addition with a fully enabled shader count to beat Vega - real gaming difference would probably be very little. If you really want the best then you are going to have to pay for it.
  2. Buy a standby card to play a few games that play rather well with it - for example a cheap FuryX and Doom and Quake which should be coming out - sell once you get your dream card
    1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=fury_x-_-14-202-186-_-Product
    2. https://www.amazon.com/XFX-R9-FURY-...ie=UTF8&qid=1483683843&sr=1-1&keywords=Fury+X
  3. 980Ti used since they are such a bargain now - sell once you get your dream card
    1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForc...714102?hash=item43fbd2f036:g:p6MAAOSwo4pYaCml
  4. Experiment with SLI/CFX on some Ebay cards - hey have some fun - resell or put on the barbecue for a YouTube Video once you trash them (have some fun in the mean time)
  5. Wait - F__K that
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I have played zero games with integrated but at least I can use my rig that way. Anyway, thanks for laying out the options clearly. Much appreciated. Cheers!
 
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Raendor said:
That's a constant dilemma. You want now? Buy now. I got my 1080 back in early June and been enjoying the performance for 6 months already. The Ti might not even come out after all and just replicate the 600s in that regard. Considering that you can already get high quality 1080 for less than 600...
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Agreed, it's a constant dilemma. The rumors were hot for a TI so the lack of release threw off my gameplan. I did play through a nice list of games before selling my gtx 1080.

Well, seems like everyone thinks waiting is stupid. Guess I'd better buy something!
 
It's only stupid if a ti doesn't come out in the next month or two. If it does then you will lose money unloading that 1080 to buy a new ti and will have only had it a short period of time. It's a gamble which I probably would not take at this point. Either buy a used 980/980ti for cheap right more to get you buy which you will not take a beating on reselling or continue waiting. I would not buy a1080 right now. Your 6 months into the product cycle and they are still priced very high in my opinion. The time to buy was at or right after launch not now. Unless you can steal one at a stupid price which is hard to do.

Me, I want 2 it's and I will wait even though I'm getting annoyed with Nvidia's delay on the ti as well.
 
Vega is slated for first half of this year, so waiting for Vega could be a three to six month game. And that's assuming it's competitive enough to warrant nVidia dropping prices and/or dropping in a 1080 Ti as a Vega-spoiler. (Not to mention—my own personal opinion—we might see consumer Volta this year.)

If your gaming plans include any VR before you pick up your 'dream card' stay away from RX 480 / Fury X. Even the 1060 walks all over them as per [H] benches.
 
There will always be something coming out so if you want or need - in mis1995 case it is probably more a need then a want if a semi to serious gamer you go get it. Since he has a Gsync monitor I would recommend Nvidia as well, Gsync/FreeSync gives some nice smooth game play feel to not use.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/titan-x-pascal/

Then stick out your middle finger to the imaginary 1080Ti which may or may not come out but will always perform less then the Titan X anyways. For me a Titan would probably been in my machine if it was more capable - should be updated in the next 6 months (Ryzen or Skylake E). Surprisingly the FX 9590 is not too limiting for the two 1070's in SLI in the end.
 
A1080TI will most likely perform slightly slower than a full fledged titan but also be alot cheaper. The problem is at this point both the 1080 and titan have been out for so long that in order to justify any price/purchase decision you have to buy them at or near launch. That's my feeling anyway. I can't plunk down all that money for a flagship GPU and then a month or two later have it destroyed in performance. I can handle 6 months or more but not 1 or 2. That's just me. Yes, there's always something around the corner but theres around the corner and then there is next door. Right now we are next door to something new coming very soon one way or the other. No time to drop 600+ on a video card. Imo that's just not smart.
 
Well Vega does not support Gsync so that is out (that is around the corner), the 1080 Ti may or may not be launched nor do we know when. He already bought a 1080 which was not sufficient - Logical conclusion is Titan X to me if he has the money. Can't see him buying another 1080 when he was already not happy with one. Can't buy a 1080 Ti nor do we know the performance.

The 1080Ti I would guess will be about 20% faster then the 1080 while the Titan X is 40% faster. Nvidia has really separated their cards from each tier. If he can't afford it then that is that.

Now the logic it is not worth buying after 6 months but waiting more time for a 1080Ti is somewhat counter intuitive since Pascal life span is further advanced everyday he waits. He might as well wait for Volta then since it is over 6 months since launch of Pascal cards. That means integrated graphics for some time or buying something with even less performance what he initially bought and sold meaning a 980Ti may really not cut it.
 
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If your original card didn't work in OC mode, why didn't you just RMA it and get a replacement? If it doesn't work as advertised then that's what you should do.

As for what you should do now, you didn't really give us enough information. What resolution and refresh rate is your monitor? What games do you play? What's your budget?

If you need something now just get another 1080. After the Vega architectural reveal yesterday it seems to be that it will still be some months before Vega is actually released. So unless you want to wait a while just get a 1080 (or 1070, or Titan, or 1060, or RX 480...).
 
Schmave said:
If your original card didn't work in OC mode, why didn't you just RMA it and get a replacement? If it doesn't work as advertised then that's what you should do.
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If you remember, at launch a gtx 1080 was near impossible to get. Newegg had replacement only so I kept it. Doesn't matter now.
 
Algrim said:
Vega is slated for first half of this year, so waiting for Vega could be a three to six month game. And that's assuming it's competitive enough to warrant nVidia dropping prices and/or dropping in a 1080 Ti as a Vega-spoiler. (Not to mention—my own personal opinion—we might see consumer Volta this year.)

If your gaming plans include any VR before you pick up your 'dream card' stay away from RX 480 / Fury X. Even the 1060 walks all over them as per [H] benches.
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That's what I'm afraid of, I can't wait another 3+ months.
 
AMD, like always, won't have any kind of real competition to offer, and Volta is right around the corner. ;)
 
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Is the Titan X Pascal in your In box yet? (y)

Now if you are not a serious gamer or want the best, not interested in exploring VR then even a 1060 is an option as well as a hold over. Look at this way, you spend $250 for a used card or 1060, then turn around and spend $800 for a 1080 Ti who knows when - maybe months if ever - total cost over $1000 then you need to sell (waste time) or keep . . . While you could be playing tomorrow on the best of the best gaming card mankind has ever invented tomorrow way faster then that magical 1080 Ti- you just have to make up your own mind.

Mind you that yes Vega may come out and just be God's gift to the World or Nvidia has a big unbelievable 50% discount of all video cards (very unlikely), you win the lottery etc. That is just life. But if you don't make up your mind you will most be likely playing on integrated graphics with last decade games on low res and settings :notworthy: .

Anyways good luck on your decision, even an indecision is a decision in the end.
 
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whateverer said:
I dunno what the fuck I'm supposed to be talking you out of, since you didn't include GAMES, resolution or desired refresh rate. Nor if you have a future upgrade path to SLI. If there is no such path, then waiting for something more powerful may be your only option.

Normally someone dropping that kinda cash has a game OR SIX in mind, but this just turned into "sad story about my video card." TLDR.
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So much anger for no reason. It's a forum, just skip the topic next time.
 
Ordered the MSI 1080. I'm sure it will be worth $300 like next week but whatever. Thanks guys. I wanted the Titan X but that's twice the $ and probably complete overkill for me.
 
mls1995 said:
Since Nvidia hosed me when they didn't announce a GTX 1080 TI card today, I'm thinking about buying the msi gtx 1080 gaming x ($599 after rebate) at newegg. I'd like to be patient and wait for the TI but I'm getting the gaming itch hard lately. Used 1080 prices really aren't much cheaper than the MSI card and I actually like that card. Considered it originally but it was too expensive. Now it's not overpriced.
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How exactly did Nvidia hose you? They've never even hinted at the existence of a 1080Ti, much less a release or announcement. YOU hosed yourself by believing the rumor sites from "unnamed sources".
 
Don't know what kind of games you play and what resolution you play at, but a GTX1060 will easily ease your itch and you will lose far less money reselling it when Ti comes out.
 
mls1995 said:
Ordered the MSI 1080. I'm sure it will be worth $300 like next week but whatever. Thanks guys. I wanted the Titan X but that's twice the $ and probably complete overkill for me.
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Bro I would have bought a used 980/980ti/or 1080. Let someone else take the new card price hit for you. Especially when you might now keep it for more than a few months. Good luck either way. You'll be storming the castle soon enough or fragging away. Whatever your favorite flavor of game is. :)
 
Savoy said:
Bro I would have bought a used 980/980ti/or 1080. Let someone else take the new card price hit for you. Especially when you might now keep it for more than a few months. Good luck either way. You'll be storming the castle soon enough or fragging away. Whatever your favorite flavor of game is. :)
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I tried to buy a used 1080 and The prices weren't that different than new. $599 AR isn't bad IMO for a new card.
 
mls1995 said:
If you remember, at launch a gtx 1080 was near impossible to get. Newegg had replacement only so I kept it. Doesn't matter now.
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True, but I meant you should have tried for an RMA replacement (not return).
 
Schmave said:
True, but I meant you should have tried for an RMA replacement (not return).
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Probably. Do you have a delorean with a flux capacitor that I can borrow? Stuff happens, RMAs weren't a great idea at launch unless you got a real bad card. Mine was just slightly gimped.
 
mls1995 said:
Probably. Do you have a delorean with a flux capacitor that I can borrow? Stuff happens, RMAs weren't a great idea at launch unless you got a real bad card. Mine was just slightly gimped.
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Nope (unless you count a Christmas ornament that looks like one). Yeah, I know RMAs can be risky when there is no stock of the hottest new thing. That, however, is one of the prices of being an early adopter.

As to your current dilemma, it sounds like you made the right choice with ordering a new 1080. If you are itching to play some games right now you aren't going to be satisfied by waiting for the next big thing.
 
Congrats on making up your mind and getting what you need/want. Now game on!
 
You want it
You don't need it
But your weak and you will buy one just I like will.

True story
 
p3sty said:
You want it
You don't need it
But your weak and you will buy one just I like will.

True story
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It's not "weak" to have a 6700k system and a gsync monitor, run it with integrated graphics for 3 months and say enoughs enough I need POWER. Pimps gotta pimp, Gamers gotta game.
 
Go with the 1080. AMD products/drivers have always been buggy in games for me.
 
U ain't "H" if don't have a b card .... You made me throw up in my mouth saying integrated graphics.
 
Buy the 1080. There is no 1080 Ti and Vega isn't out for at least 3 months. Meanwhile, when I was faced with the decision to wait for 1080 Ti (around June I was thinking), I ended up with 2 1080s in SLi. 6-7 months of gaming was worth it to me.
 
Don't buy it. It's an old card already. Been out for 6 months. You will definitely regret it in a few months.
 
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