New LG OLED TVs Are Only 2.6mm Thick

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Take a look at LG's new W-series OLED TVs. The 77" model is just 2.6mm thick and weighs only 27lbs. The 65" model weighs just 17lbs. Apparently these TVs are so thin that they have to be wall mounted. Wow. :eek:

LG's tagline for the W-series 4K sets -- "Picture on Wall" -- sums up their appeal. At just 2.6mm thin across their entire frame, they can be mounted completely flat against your wall. They look more like a work of modern art than any television I've seen.
 
Seems fairly pointless when you are required to plug it into a large soundbar for it to get any inputs.

You might also be wondering how such thin TVs manage to include input ports. Well they don't... technically. Instead, they use a thin cable to connect to companion soundbars, which house all of your necessary inputs (including 4 HDMI ports, 3 USB connections and an optical audio port).
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That_Sound_Guy said:
Seems fairly pointless when you are required to plug it into a large soundbar for it to get any inputs.
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What's pointless about that? A soundbar can sit on the mantle, and the OLED can be like a picture frame. Or go floating shelf style which is still very elegant with a slim TV, or if you want it really flush for everything then go with wall mounted speakers which are also an option (I use them for my overhead speakers).

Only the peasantry still uses TV speakers in 2017 anyway.
 
Yeah, plus there's probably a power brick. With decent (hidden) cable management and some holes made in the wall to hold the soundbar and power source, this could be an ultra slick display.
 
That's what I would do, knock a hole for a sound bar in the wall, I want to play PC games on that TV! I just bought a Samsung J6200 for 125$ all said and done at Thanksgiving. Haven't even had a chance to hook my comp up to it but apparently the input lag is like 7ms in game mode. Anyone have a J series they game on?
 
This is almost getting there! Need to find a way to wirelessly transmit audio with enough bandwidth for all formats, add in a beefy mobile SOC for all the smart features and wireless features and lower prices through mass production and I think they'll usher in a new era of TVs.
 
I'm still a fan of having a TV stand setup for easy access to inputs. Until things are truly wireless, there's always that issue. That said, if someone gave me one of those I'd be giddy as hell.
 
They looks pretty sweet. Now they're so light that I can mount them with double sided tape and velcro.:p

That soundbar might be annoying though.
 
The only place I can put that ugly sound bar is on top of my center channel, it's pretty pointless. I would wager "most" people buying this level of tv have a dedicated receiver and speaker system. The G7 might work though, I believe the soundbar folds up under the TV which is ideal for those with 5.1 or greater.
 
Mugato said:
That's what I would do, knock a hole for a sound bar in the wall, I want to play PC games on that TV! I just bought a Samsung J6200 for 125$ all said and done at Thanksgiving. Haven't even had a chance to hook my comp up to it but apparently the input lag is like 7ms in game mode. Anyone have a J series they game on?
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I have the JS8500 65" and the input lag is about 28ms when in game mode. When PC gaming it's somewhat noticeable, controller/console, not at all.

This TV would be great without a soundbar but my guess is they marketed this TV towards rich people willing to throw $20K at a TV without wanting any extra setup rather than the average cinemaphile. At that price the soundbar is like getting a spare tire with your car purchase.
 
It's not too surprising that it requires a wall mount. My e6 is starting to bend around the edges, just because of how thin it is. And I can't leave the windows open when I'm away, as I'm paranoid that a gust of wind will blow it off the stand. I still don't understand though why they use a sound bar. If you're buying a $4000+ TV, chances are you're not going to be using it.
 
Nytegard said:
It's not too surprising that it requires a wall mount. My e6 is starting to bend around the edges, just because of how thin it is. And I can't leave the windows open when I'm away, as I'm paranoid that a gust of wind will blow it off the stand. I still don't understand though why they use a sound bar. If you're buying a $4000+ TV, chances are you're not going to be using it.
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People spending this much on a TV are the ones most likely to use it. Rich people just drop money on a quick setup out of the box, they rarely go out of there way to hook up a home theater system with it.
 
To me it's not so much a sound bar as it is a seperate place to plug in all components. My guess is this behaves exactly as if they were the speakers on the chassis of a tv meaning that the sound bar has outputs to hook to your surround sound in addition to all the inputs required.
 
pxc said:
Yeah, plus there's probably a power brick. With decent (hidden) cable management and some holes made in the wall to hold the soundbar and power source, this could be an ultra slick display.
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That's exactly what they did in the story, you can see from the pictures that either it's a false wall, or they purposefully built a channel for the TV stuff.

Which really isn't too daunting of a task, with some exceptions, if the tv is on an outside wall usually those voids are filled with insulation so you'd have to sacrifice some of that, you'd need to be certain to want your TV in that location always (not a huge deal for some people), and most importantly most electrical codes absolutely do not allow you to run power cables to your TV through walls they do not have sufficient protection for that (yes even Romex has adequate protection). Either way though, no way that's a premium I give a shit about, I'd be happy with a tv that's 10x as thick (a full inch!) because how often do you place your face on the wall and admire how little the tv sticks out?

My biggest question is thermal management.
 
IndyJoe said:
To me it's not so much a sound bar as it is a seperate place to plug in all components. My guess is this behaves exactly as if they were the speakers on the chassis of a tv meaning that the sound bar has outputs to hook to your surround sound in addition to all the inputs required.
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Get used to high end TV's doing this. My Flagship Samsung has the brains in an external box hidden neatly away... Doesn't mean you have to follow suit - just buy the midrange and you'll be fine.
 
Until everything is truly wireless, i don't see the point. Basically you would to put the AV cabinet in wall/below/behind the TV for access to everything. I'm sure it's no problem for some people but it's going to be messy for someone with an existing house. For new construction, you could easily account for this.
 
so now they are forcing customers to wall mount??...I always prefer putting TV's on a stand...TV's should always be at eye level...straining your neck to see it is not the ideal situation...
 
I really don't understand this obsession with thinnest. You get to the point it really doesn't matter and start to scrafice too many things. I can understand some what with a laptop but a TV that rarely moves come on already. Do people even care about it after the initial wow factor?
 
NickJames said:
I have the JS8500 65" and the input lag is about 28ms when in game mode. When PC gaming it's somewhat noticeable, controller/console, not at all.

This TV would be great without a soundbar but my guess is they marketed this TV towards rich people willing to throw $20K at a TV without wanting any extra setup rather than the average cinemaphile. At that price the soundbar is like getting a spare tire with your car purchase.
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Guessing it was a bundle and you sold off the other items.

polonyc2 said:
so now they are forcing customers to wall mount??...I always prefer putting TV's on a stand...TV's should always be at eye level...straining your neck to see it is not the ideal situation...
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You can still mount at eye level, a wall mount doesn't mean it has to be up high. I have two TVs mounted at eye level when seated on the couch.

thekipper said:
Until everything is truly wireless, i don't see the point. Basically you would to put the AV cabinet in wall/below/behind the TV for access to everything. I'm sure it's no problem for some people but it's going to be messy for someone with an existing house. For new construction, you could easily account for this.
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While harder than taking a TV out of a box and plopping it on the entertainment center running wires through a wall isn't hard.

vegeta535 said:
I really don't understand this obsession with thinnest. You get to the point it really doesn't matter and start to scrafice too many things. I can understand some what with a laptop but a TV that rarely moves come on already. Do people even care about it after the initial wow factor?
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Yea, it gets to a point of diminishing returns.
 
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vegeta535 said:
I really don't understand this obsession with thinnest. You get to the point it really doesn't matter and start to scrafice too many things. I can understand some what with a laptop but a TV that rarely moves come on already. Do people even care about it after the initial wow factor?
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Agree... The problem with wall modifications (for wires, boxes etc) is you might need something different for the next TV etc. Its the same issue with ANYTHING built into TVs... the TV part outlasts the usefulness of anything built in. TVs with built in VCRs? TVs with netflietc.
 
polonyc2 said:
so now they are forcing customers to wall mount??...I always prefer putting TV's on a stand...TV's should always be at eye level...straining your neck to see it is not the ideal situation...
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As someone above posted you could mount it with Velcro. And who says how high it should be mounted? Walls generally extend from ground level up, last I checked.
vegeta535 said:
I really don't understand this obsession with thinnest. You get to the point it really doesn't matter and start to scrafice too many things. I can understand some what with a laptop but a TV that rarely moves come on already. Do people even care about it after the initial wow factor?
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I'd be afraid of breaking the damn thing while mounting it. I'd like to know what the tolerance for bending is in this thing...
 
Anyone thought of taking a picture of the wall where it is to be mounted and have it on the screen when ever you like so it blends into the wall and isn't noticeable, for those moments when you have company and you don't want a massive black square on the wall. Let your imagination go.
 
Ducman69 said:
What's pointless about that? A soundbar can sit on the mantle, and the OLED can be like a picture frame. Or go floating shelf style which is still very elegant with a slim TV, or if you want it really flush for everything then go with wall mounted speakers which are also an option (I use them for my overhead speakers).

Only the peasantry still uses TV speakers in 2017 anyway.
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Physical inputs? No wireless connectivity to network and sound systems?

How DO those peasants survive?
 
Armenius said:
As someone above posted you could mount it with Velcro. And who says how high it should be mounted? Walls generally extend from ground level up, last I checked.

I'd be afraid of breaking the damn thing while mounting it. I'd like to know what the tolerance for bending is in this thing...
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It will be the roll up and put it away screen. Hey that's actually retro.
 
vegeta535 said:
I really don't understand this obsession with thinnest. You get to the point it really doesn't matter and start to scrafice too many things. I can understand some what with a laptop but a TV that rarely moves come on already. Do people even care about it after the initial wow factor?
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Yes, because when its 60"+ diagonally, it can completely dominate a room visually, so having it melt into the wall is really aesthetically appealing.

Something like this, just looks so much better than something like this.
otherweeb said:
Physical inputs? No wireless connectivity to network and sound systems?

How DO those peasants survive?
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Heh, physical inputs are still OK though as long as you can't see them. They have really inexpensive flush mount boxes you can install in your wall, screwed into a stud, that allow you to route your cables down the wall out of site.
 
That's all good and well, but what is the picture quality like? The thickness of a screen is simply not an issue for non-mobile devices.
 
otherweeb said:
Physical inputs? No wireless connectivity to network and sound systems?

How DO those peasants survive?
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Wired connections are ALWAYS superior to wireless. Doesn't matter what it is, networking, mice, keyboards, earpods, charging, etc. etc. Wireless is always a compromise for convenience that sacrifices all or some of reliability, security, performance and quality. No exceptions. Not now, not ever.

If there are two choices including wired and wireless, I will ALWAYS pick the wired. I'd even pay more for wired than for wireless, if I had to.

Let the dumb masses of lowest common denominator fools use wireless technologies. I know better.
 
I can see this being a real problem for a lot of people.

I personally like TV stands and not walls. A lot of apartments if you live in one do not allow TV's to be wall mounted.

I even see a time where their might be aftermarket box structures with stands to put these very thin TV's into to give them back the traditional ability of placing the set on a TV stand.

I also don't think it's going too far to suggest that in the future, TV manufactures of these super ultra thin TV's may provide as a paid option, said TV box kit with stand.
 
SixFootDuo said:
I can see this being a real problem for a lot of people.

I personally like TV stands and not walls. A lot of apartments if you live in one do not allow TV's to be wall mounted.

I even see a time where their might be aftermarket box structures with stands to put these very thin TV's into to give them back the traditional ability of placing the set on a TV stand.

I also don't think it's going too far to suggest that in the future, TV manufactures of these super ultra thin TV's may provide as a paid option, said TV box kit with stand.
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Not to mention "does it bend?" :p
 
NickJames said:
People spending this much on a TV are the ones most likely to use it. Rich people just drop money on a quick setup out of the box, they rarely go out of there way to hook up a home theater system with it.
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Further from the truth. Rich people don't have time to hook shit up. They pay 20K to a local overpriced home theater shop to set everything up for them. Then, since they are busying making money and traveling, they never watch it.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Wired connections are ALWAYS superior to wireless.
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Superior is subjective.

I have a dash mounted tablet in my car that does audio over bluetooth, and there is no perceptible difference to an analog cable (if anything, its superior as there's no humming). 5Ghz wireless AC1900 is also more than fast enough for most smart TVs to wireless stream Plex movies/shows without any streaming buffering issues.

If you need to go 15mph to outrun a bear, then if you have one solution that goes 50mph and the other goes 30mph but is far more elegant, you might as well go for the more elegant solution.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
That's all good and well, but what is the picture quality like? The thickness of a screen is simply not an issue for non-mobile devices.
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They said it looked about the same as the B6, review of that here:
 
Silentbob343 said:
Guessing it was a bundle and you sold off the other items.



You can still mount at eye level, a wall mount doesn't mean it has to be up high. I have two TVs mounted at eye level when seated on the couch.



While harder than taking a TV out of a box and plopping it on the entertainment center running wires through a wall isn't hard.


Yea, it gets to a point of diminishing returns.
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Running wires through existing walls is no fun to me.
 
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Actually, I was just thinking, since its THAT thin, you might be able to get away with just cutting away the drywall just a tiny bit smaller than the size of the screen, perhaps with an angled cut, so that you could mount the TV directly to the studs and have the TV sit flush with the surrounding drywall and look REALLY slick!

Recessed TVs are hardly anything new, but this would allow you to accomplish that at essentially ZERO additional cost, without any need to do extensive modifications to the studs.
 
thekipper said:
Running wires through existing walls is no fun to me.
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Ha, I suppose fun is subjective. I have run wires for networking and wall mounted two TVs in my home, but I am also lucky to have a basement that makes the task much easier than those with slab homes.
 
I don't really get all the fuss with thinner and thinner displays. That's literally the last thing I'd care about when shopping for a television. Everything would come before that. No, wait it's not even last. I don't think I'd even bother to check the thickness.
 
Ducman69 said:
Yes, because when its 60"+ diagonally, it can completely dominate a room visually, so having it melt into the wall is really aesthetically appealing.

Something like this, just looks so much better than something like this.

Heh, physical inputs are still OK though as long as you can't see them. They have really inexpensive flush mount boxes you can install in your wall, screwed into a stud, that allow you to route your cables down the wall out of site.
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Yes but that is 2 extremes. That TV looks like it is 3" + thick. 1/8" thick is just going too far. Like other said I be scared to handle it.
 
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I bought an LG OLED this christmas. The guy at the electronics stores told me about those. The problem LG as is "SHIPPING" because it's so thin it tends to bend and break... Like an Iphone for example :)

So Lg will need to ship it sandwiched between or with a glass panel or other material...
 
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