NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Westfold said:
Hello Everyone,

I've read 300+ pages of this forum in order to prepare myself for completing my wife's build with the M1. She is an artist/designer/video editor/developer and this is her first PC in like 8 years as she has been with Apple. Finally she got tired of the lack of performance and upgradeability. Naturally, she was drawn to the M1 and made it clear that's this was the case she wanted. I was worried because this was my first time building a PC, and the M1 is so small. But I started and completed the build last night and it started with no issues!

Gigabyte G1 Gaming 5 MB
I7 6700k
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 (Blower)
32G Corsair Vengeance
Cosiar H105 AiO
SF600 Power Supply
Corsair MP500 M.2
Samsung Pro 500G 2.5 SSD
4 SP120 Corsair Fans (2 on Rad, 2 on bottom, all controlled by Silver Stone PWM Fan Hub which is powered by Sata)
Windows 10 Pro

The build went smoothly and the only problem I ran into was with cable management. It caused mounting the Radiator back into the case to be a pain, but I know where I went wrong and plan on going back in and bundling more of the cables under the SP to get more clearance. I will post pics when I do this, as right now the wife is installing all her programs and needs to get back to work.

I would like to benchmark this guy, however I'm not familiar with that. Can any of you recommend which programs are best to get this done?

And I really want to thank all the posters here, any questions or problems I had I was able to find a solution here and it help a lot.

Happy New Years!
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Congratulations on the successful build. Happy New Year to you too!
 
Westfold said:
Hello Everyone,

I've read 300+ pages of this forum in order to prepare myself for completing my wife's build with the M1. She is an artist/designer/video editor/developer and this is her first PC in like 8 years as she has been with Apple. Finally she got tired of the lack of performance and upgradeability. Naturally, she was drawn to the M1 and made it clear that's this was the case she wanted. I was worried because this was my first time building a PC, and the M1 is so small. But I started and completed the build last night and it started with no issues!

Gigabyte G1 Gaming 5 MB
I7 6700k
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 (Blower)
32G Corsair Vengeance
Cosiar H105 AiO
SF600 Power Supply
Corsair MP500 M.2
Samsung Pro 500G 2.5 SSD
4 SP120 Corsair Fans (2 on Rad, 2 on bottom, all controlled by Silver Stone PWM Fan Hub which is powered by Sata)
Windows 10 Pro

The build went smoothly and the only problem I ran into was with cable management. It caused mounting the Radiator back into the case to be a pain, but I know where I went wrong and plan on going back in and bundling more of the cables under the SP to get more clearance. I will post pics when I do this, as right now the wife is installing all her programs and needs to get back to work.

I would like to benchmark this guy, however I'm not familiar with that. Can any of you recommend which programs are best to get this done?

And I really want to thank all the posters here, any questions or problems I had I was able to find a solution here and it help a lot.

Happy New Years!
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Nice looking build, very well done. Some good benchmarks are Aida64, OCCT, Intel Burn Test and for graphics card I use 3DMark Firestrike and Time Spy. Tell your wife if she gets bored to play some games, she has the comp for it now.
 
Qrash said:
Glad it helped. I'm not sure which direction I twisted the 24-pin cable or how many times, but it was still a bit too long so it makes a U-turn at the front panel before plugging into the power supply. The U is where a tie-wrap loops through to the anchor point on the front panel. This applies tension to the 24-pin cable so that it stays tight against the side and bottom of the power supply. The twisting makes the 24-pin cable very stiff, but in this case this is desired as it helps keep it from sagging onto the graphics card. The 8-pin motherboard cable is folded in half lengthwise and runs along the long edge of the frame right beside the internal AC power cable, then it dives down beside the power supply (unfolded at this turn and beyond) and runs alongside the twisted 24-pin cable. Underneath the power supply it loops over the 24-pin cable before being plugged into the power supply. This provides more lift to the heavy 24-pin cable. It is still possible to plug in the SATA and PCI-E power cables amongst the motherboard power cables.

As for the twisting, I don't believe this is the reason for my booting problems. I have replaced the power supply with two others (Silverstone SX600-G (SFX) and Seasonic X-series 650W (ATX)) and the behaviour is the same with all three, and this is with straight untwisted power supply cables: The computer boots fine on the first attempt after the power supply is connected and powered on. Everything runs fine, including Aida64 Stress Test. Temperatures are in the 60s C. All of this is with the motherboard out of the case and with only one RAM module, and no SATA devices or graphics card (HDMI plugged into the rear I/O for the 6700K's internal GPU. I have just the bare minimum of hardware installed: one fan on the NH-U9S cooler, the Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD (never exceeds 40 C), and a small piezo speaker for any POST beeps. Windows behaves completely normally so I don't think the problems are with the CPU or the RAM. After I shut down Windows and count to 10, that\s when the problems start. At first, pressing and holding the power switch might result in a successful boot, but eventually the system just sits there with no beeps and only the Power LED on the motherboard (beside the PCI-E x16 slot) active (solid red). At this point I think the problem must be with the motherboard. If I disconnect all of the power cables and then reapply them, the computer will boot the first time, but then it becomes increasing unresponsive all over again.

Does anyone have any other ideas I can try?
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As an old ex-Dell Certified Field Tech I would be RMA'ing the motherboard at this point, assuming you do not have a known good motherboard to test the other components on. The fact of screwing it down in the case mount points could be a factor in exacerbating a fault in mobo circuitry that is only intermittent when out of the case. Another possible consideration is that the bent pin issue may have damaged the CPU before you discovered and corrected it. Do you have another CPU to test in the mobo?
 
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rfarmer said:
Nice looking build, very well done. Some good benchmarks are Aida64, OCCT, Intel Burn Test and for graphics card I use 3DMark Firestrike and Time Spy. Tell your wife if she gets bored to play some games, she has the comp for it now.
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Thanks for the benchmarks!

The wife is amazed by the gains she is seeing in render times. A scene that used to take 5 minutes to render, now takes 1.

As soon as she saw that she fired up Xcomm on Steam.

We had all the parts underneath our Christmas tree until we did build. I still cannot believe all those things made it into that small case!
 
Westfold said:
Thanks for the benchmarks!

The wife is amazed by the gains she is seeing in render times. A scene that used to take 5 minutes to render, now takes 1.

As soon as she saw that she fired up Xcomm on Steam.

We had all the parts underneath our Christmas tree until we did build. I still cannot believe all those things made it into that small case!
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When you see the case for the first time and realize just how small it is, it is amazing what can be fit inside.
 
Chimaera43 said:
As an old ex-Dell Certified Field Tech I would be RMA'ing the motherboard at this point, assuming you do not have a known good motherboard to test the other components on. The fact of screwing it down in the case mount points could be a factor in exacerbating a fault in mobo circuitry that is only intermittent when out of the case. Another possible consideration is that the bent pin issue may have damaged the CPU before you discovered and corrected it. Do you have another CPU to test in the mobo?
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Thanks for your input. No I don't have another Skylake processor, unfortunately. The pattern of starting once, but then not again, is the same whether the motherboard is in the case or not. Only fully powering down the motherboard enables it to boot, starting the pattern all over again. I've start trying to contact Asus, but I doubt I will hear from them until after the holidays.
 
Mrclean said:
Hey guys! Spent my day yesterday replacing my CPU cooler and doing some cable management. Took a time lapse, figured I'd share it! So glad to have two AIO's back in.

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Great!, except I would call that a 'sped' up video not a time lapse.
 
Quick reintroduction (even though I only had 11 posts before, registered in 2008)... I seem to have forgotten my password for the fenrisx account, and did password reset only to realize the email I registered this account with is no longer active. So, I just registered with this name.

I bought the M1 case back in March/April 2015. I basically migrated my build from a Fractal Node 605 to this case... aside from switching from an ASUS Maximus VI Formula board to the ASUS Maximus VII Impact, and also switching to an SFX PSU.

Still liking the case a lot. After seeing some of the builds on here, I realize I basically have 0 cable management compared to some.... it's basically just the 3 SATA cables that make it look messy in that old pic. However, I've made some changes to the build, and the cable management only got worse. :) I switched from the Silverstone unit to the Corsair 600w SFX. The Silverstone had a chirp when the fans would spin up (or down?), and I read it is common on that unit mounted the way they are in the M1 case. The Corsair doesn't have that problem, but I did like the cable layout of the Silverstone better. I also changed the old laptop 2.5 HDD for a WD Black in a higher capacity. My next step is probably going to buy buying the steel fan bracket with magnetic filter. My case is a V3 that has the aluminum bracket with separate filters. The magnetic looks much better.

Some of you appear to have custom length cables (or just doing a really good job managing?)... is there a premade kit for the Corsair or Silverstone units... or is this DIY and/or paying someone a premium for the custom cables? I'd be interested in that upgrade unless it was too expensive.


fenrisx said:
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i5 4670k cooled by a Scythe Big Shuriken Rev. B
16gb Kingston Savage 2400mhz DDR3
2 x Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD's in Raid 0
1 x old laptop 7200rpm 320gb HDD 1 x WD Black 7200rpm 1TB HDD
Gigabyte GTX770 4GB GPU
ASUS RoG Maximus VII Impact
Silverstone 600w SFX PSU Corsair SF600
2 Corsair AF120 Performance Editions running @ 600RPM's until the heat kicks up. 1 Corsair AF120 Performance Edition
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Mrclean said:
Hey guys! Spent my day yesterday replacing my CPU cooler and doing some cable management. Took a time lapse, figured I'd share it! So glad to have two AIO's back in.

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Nice. I wondered how much of a pain it would be to mount to 120mm rads like that. I had thought about that when I initially got the M1, but never attempted it. I think I'd made a post on here asking if anyone had yet. How's the noise with the two pumps?

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FrozenCode said:
Quick reintroduction (even though I only had 11 posts before, registered in 2008)... I seem to have forgotten my password for the fenrisx account, and did password reset only to realize the email I registered this account with is no longer active. So, I just registered with this name.

I bought the M1 case back in March/April 2015. I basically migrated my build from a Fractal Node 605 to this case... aside from switching from an ASUS Maximus VI Formula board to the ASUS Maximus VII Impact, and also switching to an SFX PSU.

Still liking the case a lot. After seeing some of the builds on here, I realize I basically have 0 cable management compared to some.... it's basically just the 3 SATA cables that make it look messy in that old pic. However, I've made some changes to the build, and the cable management only got worse. :) I switched from the Silverstone unit to the Corsair 600w SFX. The Silverstone had a chirp when the fans would spin up (or down?), and I read it is common on that unit mounted the way they are in the M1 case. The Corsair doesn't have that problem, but I did like the cable layout of the Silverstone better. I also changed the old laptop 2.5 HDD for a WD Black in a higher capacity. My next step is probably going to buy buying the steel fan bracket with magnetic filter. My case is a V3 that has the aluminum bracket with separate filters. The magnetic looks much better.

Some of you appear to have custom length cables (or just doing a really good job managing?)... is there a premade kit for the Corsair or Silverstone units... or is this DIY and/or paying someone a premium for the custom cables? I'd be interested in that upgrade unless it was too expensive.
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Glad to see you are still liking the case!
It so happens that I have the exact same 770 as you do and I'm about to create my first ncase build. How are the temps in there? Does it significantly thermal throttle?

I'm hoping on reusing my 770 until I decide on what to upgrade to. Thanks!
 
FrozenCode said:
Quick reintroduction (even though I only had 11 posts before, registered in 2008)... I seem to have forgotten my password for the fenrisx account, and did password reset only to realize the email I registered this account with is no longer active. So, I just registered with this name.

I bought the M1 case back in March/April 2015. I basically migrated my build from a Fractal Node 605 to this case... aside from switching from an ASUS Maximus VI Formula board to the ASUS Maximus VII Impact, and also switching to an SFX PSU.

Still liking the case a lot. After seeing some of the builds on here, I realize I basically have 0 cable management compared to some.... it's basically just the 3 SATA cables that make it look messy in that old pic. However, I've made some changes to the build, and the cable management only got worse. :) I switched from the Silverstone unit to the Corsair 600w SFX. The Silverstone had a chirp when the fans would spin up (or down?), and I read it is common on that unit mounted the way they are in the M1 case. The Corsair doesn't have that problem, but I did like the cable layout of the Silverstone better. I also changed the old laptop 2.5 HDD for a WD Black in a higher capacity. My next step is probably going to buy buying the steel fan bracket with magnetic filter. My case is a V3 that has the aluminum bracket with separate filters. The magnetic looks much better.

Some of you appear to have custom length cables (or just doing a really good job managing?)... is there a premade kit for the Corsair or Silverstone units... or is this DIY and/or paying someone a premium for the custom cables? I'd be interested in that upgrade unless it was too expensive.
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For custom cables you usually have to go through someplace like CableMod or EnSourced and they are a premium. I got my set from EnSourced and paid more than the PSU.
 
Neapolitan6th said:
Glad to see you are still liking the case!
It so happens that I have the exact same 770 as you do and I'm about to create my first ncase build. How are the temps in there? Does it significantly thermal throttle?

I'm hoping on reusing my 770 until I decide on what to upgrade to. Thanks!
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I've not really paid much attention to GPU temps, but doubt there are any throttling issues. The Node 605 case I had before was not the greatest in terms of cooling...and didn't have issues in it. Also, I have (initially) checked CPU temps..and they were better than in the Node 605. I will check for you though.


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Played Battlefield 4 for ~20mins. It hit 81C once... every time I tabbed out to check GPU-Z it was around 75-76C. Looking at the log file it was 80C a several times. Clocked seemed to be OK - reading 1228Mhz, and sometimes dropping to 1201Mhz. Gigabyte advertised the card as 1186Mhz boost... so not sure what gives there. I did not OC the card. Here's a link to the log:
http://pastebin.com/raw/x39ssGPj
 
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harsaphes said:
Great!, except I would call that a 'sped' up video not a time lapse.
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Fair enough, it was recorded with the time lapse feature on my iPad hahaha


FrozenCode said:
Nice. I wondered how much of a pain it would be to mount to 80mm rads like that. I had thought about that when I initially got the M1, but never attempted it. I think I'd made a post on here asking if anyone had yet. How's the noise with the two pumps?
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They are actually 120mm. And very quiet. Hardly noticeable.
 
FrozenCode said:
I've not really paid much attention to GPU temps, but doubt there are any throttling issues. The Node 605 case I had before was not the greatest in terms of cooling...and didn't have issues in it. Also, I have (initially) checked CPU temps..and they were better than in the Node 605. I will check for you though.


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Played Battlefield 4 for ~20mins. It hit 81C once... every time I tabbed out to check GPU-Z it was around 75-76C. Looking at the log file it was 80C a several times. Clocked seemed to be OK - reading 1228Mhz, and sometimes dropping to 1201Mhz. Gigabyte advertised the card as 1186Mhz boost... so not sure what gives there. I did not OC the card. Here's a link to the log:
http://pastebin.com/raw/x39ssGPj
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Thanks for the results. That's actually pretty good! I have the same card running in a full tower (albeit with bad case airflow) running under load in the high 70s and peaking at 80-82C averaging 1215Mhz.

If that seems unusually high, it's because I have another 770 in sli currently spaced below it. Glad to see I can transfer it to my new build without issue. Best of luck with the custom cables. That's something I'll be looking into as well.
 
Qrash said:
Glad it helped. I'm not sure which direction I twisted the 24-pin cable or how many times, but it was still a bit too long so it makes a U-turn at the front panel before plugging into the power supply. The U is where a tie-wrap loops through to the anchor point on the front panel. This applies tension to the 24-pin cable so that it stays tight against the side and bottom of the power supply. The twisting makes the 24-pin cable very stiff, but in this case this is desired as it helps keep it from sagging onto the graphics card. The 8-pin motherboard cable is folded in half lengthwise and runs along the long edge of the frame right beside the internal AC power cable, then it dives down beside the power supply (unfolded at this turn and beyond) and runs alongside the twisted 24-pin cable. Underneath the power supply it loops over the 24-pin cable before being plugged into the power supply. This provides more lift to the heavy 24-pin cable. It is still possible to plug in the SATA and PCI-E power cables amongst the motherboard power cables.

As for the twisting, I don't believe this is the reason for my booting problems. I have replaced the power supply with two others (Silverstone SX600-G (SFX) and Seasonic X-series 650W (ATX)) and the behaviour is the same with all three, and this is with straight untwisted power supply cables: The computer boots fine on the first attempt after the power supply is connected and powered on. Everything runs fine, including Aida64 Stress Test. Temperatures are in the 60s C. All of this is with the motherboard out of the case and with only one RAM module, and no SATA devices or graphics card (HDMI plugged into the rear I/O for the 6700K's internal GPU. I have just the bare minimum of hardware installed: one fan on the NH-U9S cooler, the Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SSD (never exceeds 40 C), and a small piezo speaker for any POST beeps. Windows behaves completely normally so I don't think the problems are with the CPU or the RAM. After I shut down Windows and count to 10, that\s when the problems start. At first, pressing and holding the power switch might result in a successful boot, but eventually the system just sits there with no beeps and only the Power LED on the motherboard (beside the PCI-E x16 slot) active (solid red). At this point I think the problem must be with the motherboard. If I disconnect all of the power cables and then reapply them, the computer will boot the first time, but then it becomes increasing unresponsive all over again.

Does anyone have any other ideas I can try?
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To really know if it is the motherboard you would have to borrow a CPU from somewhere. Maybe you could grab one from a local dealer and return it after your test.

If it really is the mobo, I would try to RMA it and say nothing about the bent pins. Just make sure that all pins look perfectly in shape so that they don't reject your RMA claim.
 
Quick update on how my c14s is doing with a slim fan on top.
I5 6600k OC'd at 4.8 ghz at 1.36V, and fans are all running at 1000 rpm while benchmarking in aida64. Quiet enough for me.
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I'm impressed with the performance of this tiny case and the nh-c14s, and I'm glad I did not go for watercooling.
 
StrawKite said:
I'm impressed with the performance of this tiny case and the nh-c14s, and I'm glad I did not go for watercooling.
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Getting the CPU under control in the M1 hasn't been the problem I think. It's how to deal with the heat and loudness of the GPU.
 
Fan question..Right now I have the fans of my H100i plugged into the fan headers of the Strix card. The card allows you to set fan settings in its software. Since I haven't played around with fans that much I would like to know what kind of profile I should set up. Thanks
 
It appears the case shipped on Dec. 16th but got stuck somewhere in between Taiwan and Poland and no one seems to no where... Hopefully I hear back from the Taiwanese forwarder soon...
Has something similar happened to anyone here? In the meantime I'm staring at the following components:
  • **CPU** | [Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor]
  • **CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler]
  • **Case Fan** | [Phanteks PH-F140HP 140mm Fan]
  • **Case Fan** | [EK Vandar F4-120ER 120mm Fan]
  • **Motherboard** | [Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard]
  • **Memory** | [CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 (2x 8GB)]
  • **Storage** | Samsung 960 EVO M.2. 1TB
  • **Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0]
  • **Power Supply** | [Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply]
I'm tempted to get the cheapest case I can find on www.x-com.pl and run the build in it until the NCASE arrives...
Do you think the Zalman ZM-T5 case would support the NH-C14 cooler? Worst case I can run without the side panel, right?

On a separate topic, I've seen a lot of recent dual 120 mm fan setups on the side bracket. Has anyone compared 140 mm + 120 mm combo vs. dual 120 mm?
The bracket covers a significant portion of the 140 mm fan. Does this mess with airflow or can you push more air more silently than with dual 120's?
 
F41LTR41N said:
It appears the case shipped on Dec. 16th but got stuck somewhere in between Taiwan and Poland and no one seems to no where... Hopefully I hear back from the Taiwanese forwarder soon...
Has something similar happened to anyone here? In the meantime I'm staring at the following components:
  • **CPU** | [Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor]
  • **CPU Cooler** | [Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler]
  • **Case Fan** | [Phanteks PH-F140HP 140mm Fan]
  • **Case Fan** | [EK Vandar F4-120ER 120mm Fan]
  • **Motherboard** | [Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard]
  • **Memory** | [CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 16GB DDR4 (2x 8GB)]
  • **Storage** | Samsung 960 EVO M.2. 1TB
  • **Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0]
  • **Power Supply** | [Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply]
I'm tempted to get the cheapest case I can find on www.x-com.pl and run the build in it until the NCASE arrives...
Do you think the Zalman ZM-T5 case would support the NH-C14 cooler? Worst case I can run without the side panel, right?

On a separate topic, I've seen a lot of recent dual 120 mm fan setups on the side bracket. Has anyone compared 140 mm + 120 mm combo vs. dual 120 mm?
The bracket covers a significant portion of the 140 mm fan. Does this mess with airflow or can you push more air more silently than with dual 120's?
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Best thing to do in that situation is to contact NCASE via their email [email protected]

They helped me out in a situation like yours. Though it could take time.
 
Neapolitan6th said:
Best thing to do in that situation is to contact NCASE via their email [email protected]

They helped me out in a situation like yours. Though it could take time.
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I did so 10 days ago... Funny enough I just noticed Dan from NCASE responded 45 min before my above post. He will look into it. I hope it gets resolved quickly...
In the meantime it appears I will add a 20-30 USD expense for a temporary case. =/
 
Mackan said:
Getting the CPU under control in the M1 hasn't been the problem I think. It's how to deal with the heat and loudness of the GPU.
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Can agree there.. the GTX 770 I've been running is mighty loud when those fans are going full bore to keep the temps in check. I think I may go the route of Mrclean above, and do an AIO cooler on my next GPU.

Or, in the mean time, just put two fans on the floor of the case to help out.. assuming that just doesn't create more turbulence and not help much at all.
 
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Hi guys, a quick question - my integrated graphics will be insufficient for my planned ultra wide monitor purchase but I really don't want to spend more than circa £200 on a gfx card so I am considering an Rx480 (and paying a little extra for a freesync monitor) - I see no mention of the AMD cards on this thread - is it simply because you require the more powerful 1080 cards or are the AMD cards also too noisy?
 
PaperLawyer said:
Hi guys, a quick question - my integrated graphics will be insufficient for my planned ultra wide monitor purchase but I really don't want to spend more than circa £200 on a gfx card so I am considering an Rx480 (and paying a little extra for a freesync monitor) - I see no mention of the AMD cards on this thread - is it simply because you require the more powerful 1080 cards or are the AMD cards also too noisy?
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You should be just fine with an RX480 in this case. You will see more nVidia here probably because AMD doesn't have anything really competing at the 1070 and 1080 level at the moment.

I was planning on putting an RX480 in my machine at one point, but changed my mind because I wasn't also wanting to buy a new monitor... currently using a gsync monitor.
 
Thanks for that confirmation - I see the GPU size constraints on the page setting out the 1080 card compatibility list:

NCASE M1 Max GPU sizes:
  • Max length: 12.5" (317mm) (slots 1 & 2), 11" (292mm) (slot 3)
  • Max width:
    - For cards up to 11.5" (292mm) in the first or second slot: 5.5" (140mm) (4.7" (120mm) at the PCIe power connectors)
    - For cards up to 12.5" (317mm) or cards in the third slot: 4.4" (111mm)
Taking the RX480 G1 Gaming as an example (which appears to be a quiet running card), it looks like it would fit readily into the M1?

H=40 L=232 W=116 mm (taken from http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5956#sp)
 
Turns out my overclock (4,8ghz @ 1.36V) is not as stable as aida64 made it seem like. Crashed 5 times while playing CS:GO. What would be a harder benchmark to make sure its stable?
 
You should be stable if you pass a couple of hours running OCCT without error.
-edit: ninja'd by ghostwich, should have hit f5 ;)
 
rfarmer said:
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Boy that is sexy, should be out soon. https://www.techpowerup.com/229177/asus-intros-four-z270-strix-series-motherboards
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Yes it is. I don't care about the RGB LEDs on the back of the right edge, but I do like the M.2 slot on the front under what appears to be full-length heatsink (ROG themed, just above the PCI-E x16 slot) and the new USB 3.1 internal connector in the very top left corner (labeled USB3.1_EC1). The older USB 3.0 connector is at the bottom right corner.

Is there any chance if we can get USB 3.1 ports at the front of the M1?
 
It took them a little while (probably because of the holiday break) but they responded to my support request from 12/26 and are getting me a replacement USB cable.
 
Anyone willing to warrant a guess if this new board will have the same layout as the z170i and in turn allow for the same cpu air coolers? Was just about to pull the trigger on my build but now I see this, I would imagine this is the way to go...
 
druID said:
Anyone willing to warrant a guess if this new board will have the same layout as the z170i and in turn allow for the same cpu air coolers? Was just about to pull the trigger on my build but now I see this, I would imagine this is the way to go...
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Looks like the same placement.
 
ghostwich said:
http://edgeup.asus.com/2017/01/03/z270-motherboard-guide/3/

Look a little bit down the page - ROG Strix Z270G Gaming - they're calling it mITX with two PCIe slots.
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You read wrong or they edited, they are calling it m-ATX, which is correct. It is clearly not an ITX board.


Also interesting to note, the ITX Strix has 2 m.2 slots, one on the back and the one on the front. The one on the front though is sitting right on top of the PCH. They claim the heatsink works for both the PCH and the m.2 but that it keeps the m.2 thermally isolated from the PCH. Not sure how exactly that would work, but I have a feeling that the drive might get pretty hot on the front.
 
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Starting to wish I had waited for Z270, love the carbon look. I could live without the RGB lighting though.
 
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