Encryption Backdoors Are Against US National Interest

Where were these lawmakers when the NSA, FBI and every other agency on the planet was spying on U.S. citizens? It was against national interest back then too.

"Any measure that weakens encryption works against the national interest," it said and also noted that encryption is a global technology that is widely and increasingly available. It also said that there are different attitudes to encryption and the going dark phenomenon, and so "there is no one-size-fits-all solution to the encryption challenge." The group said Congress should foster cooperation between the law enforcement community and technology companies.

Did anyone watch sneakers because they covered this way back then.

The fact that our "modern" encryption systems are still based on prime numbers and PKI in one manner or another (OK most of them) is still a problem just waiting to explode. At some point the reality of a "Janek's Box" will more than likely come true - personally I think it did a long time ago but it's a more closely guarded secret than anything ever before. Excuse me while I adjust my Tin-Foil Cap, be right back.

OTP yeah you know me.

Tiberian said:

The fact that our "modern" encryption systems are still based on prime numbers and PKI in one manner or another (OK most of them) is still a problem just waiting to explode. At some point the reality of a "Janek's Box" will more than likely come true - personally I think it did a long time ago but it's a more closely guarded secret than anything ever before. Excuse me while I adjust my Tin-Foil Cap, be right back.

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The most widely used these days, by a large margin, is AES and it's not based on primes.

uh.. you said "was spying"... need to correct that to "is spying". Just saying.

Of course Google knows everything about you and more than half of it you gave them willingly.

Apple knows everything about Apple users. Of course there, people actually pay Apple to take their information.

GaryJohnson said:

The most widely used these days, by a large margin, is AES and it's not based on primes.

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And AES was designed in conjunction with (hang on for it) the NSA long ago so, again, not much faith in it.

hey!

encryption stops the law from finding child molesters.

the fbi told me so

why does the government hate kids?

where ever they were I for one am happy that someone is looking at with common sense. The amendment says you can not incriminate yourself not that you should not or may not... but can it is like the right to bear arms pretty straight forward. Just like the militia being every able bodied man, woman, and child, because we did not have a standing army, the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is written in a particular order in the first signed draft. Your right to pursuit of happiness does not over rule someone else's liberty or life but if you go after there life or liberty you put your own at risk.

This applies to the encryption as encryption that only protects that via the front door is like a candy machine that if you press the right series of buttons gives free stuff so vendors don't have to document free soda's when the machine eats some kid's money. Sure it sounds like a good way to limit only the people who know how to get around the lock by limited it to only people who know the locking code... only that means you can write down a piece of paper the locking code and who knows how many people will see the code that could care less who else sees the code, and suddenly you have to change the code in every machine because someone posted it to a public forum and all your soda machines are empty and no one put any money in them to pay for the soda to replace the ones that got stolen.

We should all thank them that someone is working on the problem, most of us vote eventually we had to find people that wanted to make the country a better place to live. Encryption is not based on primes anymore the prime 95 generated more than most people's software can generate with out slowing down everyone's machines. Either way bad habits like breaking into devices instead of looking at bank records, telephone logs at the telecos, state tax records, title records. States say if you use a pin and are caught committing a crime they can ask for the pin but if you use a picture pattern they can not look at the data. Clearly there is those who want a police state and those who know their on freedom depends on a military to protect them, and intelligent judicial and legislative bodies to make and judge laws to protect interaction between people that can not play nice. The executive bodies job is to gather evidence stop violent crime, and be there as a friendly presence to stop foreigners and malcontents from rioting and causing anarchy to prevent normal commerce. They are there so kids see someone walking around doing the right thing in uniform, so kids grow knowing if they have a problem who to turn to. With all the actors that kinda fails but there is nothing stopping the country from getting back to gifters be the exception pretending to be cops and what ever else.

Then again I am looking at group of law makers that thought about an issue and said if we build tools in and give them away to who ever wants the tools... was there any point to making a deterrent to someone trying to get at the files that are encrypted?

GaryJohnson said:

The most widely used these days, by a large margin, is AES and it's not based on primes.

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Tiberian said:

And AES was designed in conjunction with (hang on for it) the NSA long ago so, again, not much faith in it.

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AES is never the problem though. The problem is always either padding attacks or the key exchange. And guess what, the key exchange is almost always based on primes... or curves.

I guess it's a big deal now that Russia installed a US president, better late than never lol.