Bill Seeks A Porn Block On Computers Sold In SC

I believe the only demographic that would want something like this is the ultra religious kind. It really doesn't have much to do with liberal or conservative views.
Linking human trafficking with porn is ridiculous. You might confuse prostitution with porn, but it's not the same thing.

In your mind, linking one with the other is ridiculous but, perhaps, you could drop your preconceived notions and do some personal research instead of assuming anything?
 
You seem to be getting confused. He meant that those people are having sex (by definition) in the video. Unless your imagination is good enough then it is pretty close! lol

Nope, not at all confused, I am fully aware of what I am saying and fully aware of what that crap is really all about. However, legislating morality from the bench rarely if ever works, the heart itself has to be changed.
 
Nope, not at all confused, I am fully aware of what I am saying and fully aware of what that crap is really all about. However, legislating morality from the bench rarely if ever works, the heart itself has to be changed.
What is sex then to you?
 
If they manage to pass this, and it doesn't get declared unconstitutional in a matter of minutes, then say goodbye to computers being sold anywhere in South Carolina. People in South Carolina will have to go out of state to buy a computer.

To avoid paying $20 or so they can still watch porn ?
 
Oh, so when you go to bed with your wife and she says lets have sex, you immediately thrown on the porn dvd and watch that then, right?

Well we first have to negotiate her performance price. Strictly speaking though, yea, porn is not actual in person sex, but it is filmed sex usually with real people unless they're cartoons or anime. So not sure what the point is?
 
SC and NC are leaders in embarrassing legislature atm. I can't wait for the ones coming down the pipe in the near future. Year of Our Lord 2016. Not 1916 ya derps.
 
Yet another useless proposed law that burdens an innocent civilian instead of actually spending money to investigate and prosecute the actual crime.
 
This from the state that up to a year or two ago was still flying the Confederate Flag from their State House.

And wouldn't you know - the guy who introduced this bill is one of the guys who was defending flying that flag (and also said in an interview that the victims in the Charleston church massacre were just waiting for their turn to be shot). Truly a standup human being, this guy is.
 
I believe the only demographic that would want something like this is the ultra religious kind. It really doesn't have much to do with liberal or conservative views.
Linking human trafficking with porn is ridiculous. You might confuse prostitution with porn, but it's not the same thing.


Is that because someone has finally proven that politicians don't really like taxing everything except themselves ?

Look, if you want to see the picture clearly, just look at the outcome, not what someone uses for a justification, but the result.

The result here, is that every new computing device sold in South Carolina will generate $20 bucks if it doesn't have cock blo... ummm.... porn blocking installed and functioning. Or if someone wants to sell it without or disable it.

The cost of this is prohibitive to manufacturers cause they would have to find a way to cater only to machines being sold to South Carolina retailers. Therefor they will leave it up to the retailers and those willing to sell online to SC. to pay the $20, or just add it as a charge to all buyers, everyone, your electronic internet capable devices just went up $20 a pop to the state.

It's a money grab and that is all it is. It's a money grab and they are hoping that by enlisting anti-porn and anti-human trafficking tax payers they will have enough people for it, or at least unwilling to care about it, that it will pass.
 
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I'm sure it's an application you put in the computer that blocks porn. A quick install of Linux will fix that.
or you pay the $20 and SC knows who watches porn and not looking for the Sheriffs Brothel houses.:)
 
They should be putting in links to access porn, the state could make billions if they get this paid advertising!
 
According to the National Human Trafficking Hotline, South Carolina has had 1,330 calls to the hotline and reported 308 actual human trafficking cases since 2007.

Yes sir eeee Bob.

308 actual cases in the last 10 years, 30 a year. That's a real epidemic isn't it.
 
Human Trafficking Prevention Act

Holy crap, man talk about earmarking it in a scary sounding bill that no one would certainly vote no on... Fucking scum bag libtard Californians ... wait what was that you said? Oh this is a conservative redneck oh then carry on then.
 
I laugh at all these articles highlighting a seemingly absurd law that is proposed as if it has already been passed and put into effect. Anyone in any of the state or federal legislatures can introduce a bill for anything! If I were in the state legislature, I could introduce a bill that would require 10% of all tax revenue be deposited into my personal account. Of course that bill would never make it out of committee and I would probably lose the next election, but the headlines would read "Colorado introduces law that diverts state taxes to personal accounts!!!!"

Same thing here. This bill will never see the light of day, and is just used to get some attention.
If anything, seeing these stories about proposed bills inform people of who not to vote for in the next election. Of course, people should be smart enough to look at the government records themselves and forgo exposing themselves to the media industrial complex.
 
Your name is ManofGod, and you're telling him to drop his preconceived notions? Your entire religion is built on them.

Really? Trying to get a rise out of me? I am more than happy to discuss this in a private conversation if you like?

Edit: Oh, and I suggest you take the time and research out what I was speaking of since there are definite, serious links between the two.
 
We can argue personal morals when it comes to sex all day.

Yes, some people are trafficked for porn. Most are not. Banning all online porn is neither feasible nor the solution to the human trafficking problem.

To me the problem with this legislation is the implementation. Unless you are fundamentally going to change how computers work, as general purpose machines, and sell people computers which they lack admin rights to, and can't install a fresh operating system on, this can never be implemented.

It's obviously written by someone who has no understanding of computers.
 
i can't wait until there is someone out there who can take this so called porn block and turn it in to a bot net.

ROOTKITS for everyone!
 
we have one too many idiots running our country. If we cut the number by half, we would save so much in tax dollars.

mind your own business, politicians
 
Yes sir eeee Bob.

308 actual cases in the last 10 years, 30 a year. That's a real epidemic isn't it.

Well and how many of those 308 were used in making porn? That's hard to know.

Of the resulting number, how many would be prevented by passing a 20$ per computer (w/o filtering software) tax? That last one is easy, ZERO.
 
Another retard Politician trying to address the effect of the problem not the cause. "It's (prostitution) gotten real bad", so let's prevent everyone from seeing the problem or interacting with it instead of dealing with the causes of the problem that brings people to traffic and people to allow themselves to be trafficked.
 
Really? Trying to get a rise out of me? I am more than happy to discuss this in a private conversation if you like?

Edit: Oh, and I suggest you take the time and research out what I was speaking of since there are definite, serious links between the two.

Let's not pretend that it's a "serious" link when it is completely impossible to quantify the effect or put numbers to anything. The actual porn industry itself is fairly well self-regulated these days. If anything most human trafficking would be going on in offshore, amateur, or prostitution areas and not from the mainstream porn industry. Even then, it's utterly impossible to put any kind of figure to it. People have tried and there really hasn't been anything verifiable that came from the results. As far as porn goes, mainstream and amateur, the most likely situation is that the majority does not come from human trafficking. If it was a fairly large problem with large numbers involved it would be much easier to quantify.
 
In your mind, linking one with the other is ridiculous but, perhaps, you could drop your preconceived notions and do some personal research instead of assuming anything?
I did do research. There is very little evidence to support the claim.
I will quote from some post online:
"The thing about human trafficking and porn (or human trafficking and sex work) is that we all know human trafficking is bad, so by conflating it with porn and sex work, we can provide a powerful rationalization to oppose things that society is already against anyway.

But if you look at reliable statistics on human trafficking, rather than listening to B-list movie stars or politicians, you will see that the most common form of human trafficking is domestic servitude, followed by farm labor.

Yet strangely, nobody ever says "I think we need to get rid of domestic servants in order to crack down on human trafficking" or "how would trafficking be affected if we started policing the farming industry better?" No, it's always sex work and porn that people talk about when the subject comes up. Which tells me it's not actually human trafficking people are concerned about--it's about trying to get rid of porn and sex work because people think those things are yucky.

Now, having said that, if we outlaw porn, that probably will affect human trafficking: it will go up. When you criminalize an industry and drive it into the shadows, that industry gets taken over by criminals. No surprise there."
 
...you're spending your time doing research, for facts, then using logic to construct an argument against someone whose username is "ManofGod?"

Edit: I noticed a typo which said pork but meant to porn, oops.

When you cannot attack the message, you attack the messenger. Never said you can make pork illegal overall since you cannot legislate morality from the bench, it is a matter of the heart.

That said, human trafficking and porn are strongly connected. You are not going to find criminal activity in an online survey or stat link.
 
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When you cannot attack the message, you attack the messenger. Never said you can make pork illegal overall since you cannot legislate morality from the bench, it is a matter of the heart.

That said, human trafficking and porn are strongly connected. You are not going to find criminal activity in an online survey or stat link.
I assume this is based on faith rather than facts? there must be fbi studies that prove this, correct? Because as i've pointed out the #1 and #2 forms of human trafficking is domestic servitude and farm labor.
 
Well and how many of those 308 were used in making porn? That's hard to know.

Of the resulting number, how many would be prevented by passing a 20$ per computer (w/o filtering software) tax? That last one is easy, ZERO.


Exactly, this bill, if it became law, would have no measurable effect on human trafficking, or porn for that matter, but it would provide a lot of tax revenue for the porkers politicians in SC.
 
That said, human trafficking and porn are strongly connected. You are not going to find criminal activity in an online survey or stat link.

Source please? I cannot find anything to back this statement up. It is about as connected as human trafficking is to the auto industry, both can be used during the process but one is not creating the other.
 
Source please? I cannot find anything to back this statement up. It is about as connected as human trafficking is to the auto industry, both can be used during the process but one is not creating the other.


Not disagreeing at all, but human trafficking has a damn broad definition for some people. On one end of the scale, human trafficking is kidnapping or buying unwilling participants and shipping them off to an uncertain fate. But on the other end it's people willingly seeking out a new life, possibly unhealthy and unsafe, but also possibly not much worse then what they left, and being smuggled to their destinations illegally. In the US, I am pretty sure that this includes all those sweatshop workers as well as enforced prostitution, etc. And it's probable that some of that .etc is for porn.

Still, I don't think some privileged woman from the USofA can look at the life of a porn performer and not see it as a terrible fate. I can see such a woman imagining the girls must have been taken and forced into the work. I think it's hard for them to understand that what they left behind could have been far worse and that they wanted a new life, any new life.

I'm not saying that this is a good life or that they are being treated well. I'm just saying there is a lot of bad in the world and some people don't have many choices in the matter.
 
Source please? I cannot find anything to back this statement up. It is about as connected as human trafficking is to the auto industry, both can be used during the process but one is not creating the other.

How would you find a source for criminal activity? Are you going to look at criminals are us? Sex slave trade and other such perverse things are, unfortunately, common practice. Looking outside the US borders does help with understanding.
 
How would you find a source for criminal activity? Are you going to look at criminals are us? Sex slave trade and other such perverse things are, unfortunately, common practice. Looking outside the US borders does help with understanding.
If you don't have a source, why do you believe they're related? The FBI and justice department publishes many studies on tons of crime in the US. There are other studies done throughout the world for different crimes.
 
How would you find a source for criminal activity? Are you going to look at criminals are us? Sex slave trade and other such perverse things are, unfortunately, common practice. Looking outside the US borders does help with understanding.

Never mind, I shouldn't have asked you for facts, it has never procured anything previously.

Not disagreeing at all, but human trafficking has a damn broad definition for some people. On one end of the scale, human trafficking is kidnapping or buying unwilling participants and shipping them off to an uncertain fate. But on the other end it's people willingly seeking out a new life, possibly unhealthy and unsafe, but also possibly not much worse then what they left, and being smuggled to their destinations illegally. In the US, I am pretty sure that this includes all those sweatshop workers as well as enforced prostitution, etc. And it's probable that some of that .etc is for porn.

Still, I don't think some privileged woman from the USofA can look at the life of a porn performer and not see it as a terrible fate. I can see such a woman imagining the girls must have been taken and forced into the work. I think it's hard for them to understand that what they left behind could have been far worse and that they wanted a new life, any new life.

I'm not saying that this is a good life or that they are being treated well. I'm just saying there is a lot of bad in the world and some people don't have many choices in the matter.

Porn work I think is like anything else, some master it and become happy and rich while others are just swept aside. And yea like you said, it really is easy for these people sitting drinking tea on the beach to criticize the decisions of 'low born' people. I don't doubt that some trafficked people go into porn both forced and by choice, but some also likely end up at mcdonalds or an engineer somewhere.

Fighting a crime should not come at the expense of some random industry with some silly rules and compromising computer security.
 
Wealth redistribution from the people to the government.

A story as old as time.
 
I'm sure it's an application you put in the computer that blocks porn. A quick install of Linux will fix that.

Quick install of Windows will solve it too. They would essentially have to get Microsoft to massively re-write Windows to make this un-removeable without paying a fee.

Regardless it's joke! What people do with their computer in private is their business unless it hurts another person. I don't buy the idea that Porn is a major player in human trafficking. People who do porn get paid well to do it. I haven't seen a single bit of proof to support these claims either. I bet some clown State Senator's daughter did porn and used the money to start a drug habit. She then made up some story about being kidnapped and forced into it or some BS like that.
 
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