GTX 1080 Ti May Have 10GB Of VRAM

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An Nvidia GPU with 10GB of VRAM and a 384-bit memory bus has been sighted on a shipping manifest, and people think it’s the 1080 Ti.

When looking at Nvidia's previous GTX Titan GPUs one trend is clear, that the lower priced Ti variant of every Titan GPU has half of the VRAM of its Titan equivalent. The GTX 780Ti had 3GB of VRAM compared to the 6GB on the Titan Black and the GTX 980Ti had 6GB compared to the Original GTX Titan X's 12GB. Today's Titan has 12GB of GDDR5X VRAM and simply halving it would result in a GTX 1080 Ti that had 6GB of VRAM, something that Nvidia would simply not release given the fact that their GTX 1080 has 8GB of VRAM. With the GTX Titan series always having a VRAM capacity lead over their desktop counterparts we expect the GTX 1080Ti to have either 10GB of GDDR5X VRAM, using a cut-down memory bus to allow for the GPUs lower VRAM capacity.
 
Always bet on the T.i. version of the Titan to win , in the high end sector for price vs performance kills
 
you can only get the pascal version from nvidia, several people have asked evga and asus and the answers always come back the titan x are only being sold by nvidia. evga had to pull all their stock of titan x and send them back to nvidia when the change came up. I had to wait for a replacement card to get sent to evga then to me, because I have a titan x, through them. which meant send my card to evga them sending it to nvidia then nvidia sending evga sending a card back then evga sending me the new card.

Since the high end consumer has been 1200 for some time now... the high end is 1200 the next one down was 1000 then the rest get cheaper from there. I still think the dd5 memory is half the cost.
 
I was looking at getting a 1080ti to replace my 980GTX. I am really hoping it isn't 1k. If it is I may just wait until the next cards are put out. I am not paying 1k for one GPU that is crazy. AMD needs to get their game together and start putting out stuff to make NV lower prices. Man this is getting crazy.
 
I hope it's 1k. Sorry guys, I know we are supposed to accept the consequences of being on the bleeding edge but I get tired of buying the best card to having it replaced within 6 months with a Ti that performs just as fast if not faster for much less money. I know it's "life" but FFS nvidia, make a Titan that's actually worth the money.
 
Eh, it's like choosing a Bugatti Veyron instead of a 'Vette. Choose exactly how fast you want to go. Pay that amount. There will always be something better in another few months. NOTHING is future proof. And if you think computer hardware is expensive, wait till you get older; women usually become MUCH more expensive as you want younger and prettier (crazier unfortunately is often a mandatory option).
 
nightfly said:
Eh, it's like choosing a Bugatti Veyron instead of a 'Vette. Choose exactly how fast you want to go. Pay that amount. There will always be something better in another few months. NOTHING is future proof. And if you think computer hardware is expensive, wait till you get older; women usually become MUCH more expensive as you want younger and prettier (crazier unfortunately is often a mandatory option).
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Exactly. That's why I am still loving my Dodge Neon (R9 390). Yes. I think amds are dodges. Lol.
 
As much as a want a 1080ti, I really don't think I could justify a $1000 card. It was hard enough for me to shell out $600 for a 980ti when they were new.
 
At first I said I'd never pay $1000 for a 1080Ti but then I remembered I paid approx $1200 for two 980's when they launched.
 
Prod1702 said:
I was looking at getting a 1080ti to replace my 980GTX. I am really hoping it isn't 1k. If it is I may just wait until the next cards are put out. I am not paying 1k for one GPU that is crazy. AMD needs to get their game together and start putting out stuff to make NV lower prices. Man this is getting crazy.
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I'm in the same boat, looking to replace my 980 also. A grand for a graphics card is absurd.

I'm sure Nvidia will introduce some type of Founders Ultra Mega Edition to get people to pay more also.
 
nightfly said:
Eh, it's like choosing a Bugatti Veyron instead of a 'Vette. Choose exactly how fast you want to go. Pay that amount. There will always be something better in another few months. NOTHING is future proof. And if you think computer hardware is expensive, wait till you get older; women usually become MUCH more expensive as you want younger and prettier (crazier unfortunately is often a mandatory option).
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The Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (Brit 400hp version) can keep up with a Lamborghini Murciélago in the straights and outperform it in the corners at 1/3 the cost of the Lambo. Where's our Mitsubishi Evo of vid cards?
 
rezerekted said:
The Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (Brit 400hp version) can keep up with a Lamborghini Murciélago in the straights and outperform it in the corners at 1/3 the cost of the Lambo. Where's our Mitsubishi Evo of vid cards?
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Yeah, but a lancer will always look like an econbox. Beauty DOES have value, and the Murcielago is a beautiful car. While I understand the concept that being fast is it's own beauty, the number of times where that speed is actually used is very, very rare. But you look at the car a whole lot more.

tetris42 said:
I don't know, the Model M keyboard is still pretty good.
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Yep, I have a few. Love the feel of the same old keyboard. And they look great in black. Though, I do like the look of lit keys on the newer designs that have that option.
 
I always get a kick out of the people who want the latest/greatest/best... but don't want to pay for it.

We live in a free market country, you gotta learn to deal with it plain and simple.

That's like me complaining that I can't afford that Lamborghini Aventador that I've wanted for years and years. It's a top tier car that performs like no other, if they were priced like a ford focus, do you still think it would be any good?

The Pascal line offers incredible value in pretty much ANY slot from the 1050 all the way up. Pick up what you can afford and enjoy, and enjoy life man.

Nvidia isn't a chairty, they are doing what any one of us would do in that situation, sell it for what people will pay. You spend billions of dollars and years of R&D on arguably the best GPU in the world... it's stupid to expect they will just give it away. Compounding the problem are the people that think $1 will always be $1 i value. Many here remember buying top end GPUs' 10 or 15 years ago for $300? which was a ton back then for such a thing. an average of 3% inflation per year over 15 years certainly changes things as well.
 
Yes, I was just thinking back to the Geforce DDR which cost like 300 bucks, and man did I feel like I broke the piggy bank to buy it.

Small potatoes now, eh?
 
How do they get 10GB of memory on a 384 bit bus? Wouldn't it be either 6GB or 12GB? They could restrict a 12GB card to 10GB, but that would be a waste.
 
azuza001 said:
Exactly. That's why I am still loving my Dodge Neon (R9 390). Yes. I think amds are dodges. Lol.
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I see absolutely no reason to upgrade from my R9 390.

I am not even overclocking it anymore since I currently don't have any games I play that I can't max out details at 1920x1200.
 
cyclone3d said:
Inflation. $300 back then was a whole lot more than $300 now.
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Indeed -- it's like I always have to hear my mom going on about how they bought their entire first house in the late 70's for something like $27k... when I tell them how much my cars have cost over the years they have a hard time understanding the $40k car I have can't compare in any way after you correct for time value of money and inflation over 40 years.
 
collegeboy69us said:
I always get a kick out of the people who want the latest/greatest/best... but don't want to pay for it.

We live in a free market country, you gotta learn to deal with it plain and simple.

That's like me complaining that I can't afford that Lamborghini Aventador that I've wanted for years and years. It's a top tier car that performs like no other, if they were priced like a ford focus, do you still think it would be any good?

The Pascal line offers incredible value in pretty much ANY slot from the 1050 all the way up. Pick up what you can afford and enjoy, and enjoy life man.

Nvidia isn't a chairty, they are doing what any one of us would do in that situation, sell it for what people will pay. You spend billions of dollars and years of R&D on arguably the best GPU in the world... it's stupid to expect they will just give it away. Compounding the problem are the people that think $1 will always be $1 i value. Many here remember buying top end GPUs' 10 or 15 years ago for $300? which was a ton back then for such a thing. an average of 3% inflation per year over 15 years certainly changes things as well.
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It's the same entitlement crap like third worlders wanting iPhones cheap because they are poor and Apple needs to do it for the "greater good", because it's a human right to own luxury goods amirite.


nightfly said:
Eh, it's like choosing a Bugatti Veyron instead of a 'Vette. Choose exactly how fast you want to go. Pay that amount. There will always be something better in another few months. NOTHING is future proof. And if you think computer hardware is expensive, wait till you get older; women usually become MUCH more expensive as you want younger and prettier (crazier unfortunately is often a mandatory option).
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But but but AMD fanboys tell me my 1070 that is worth a massive amount of 3 days wages instead of a RX480 that is worth 2 days wages mean I'm terminally retarded. I'm so going into clinical depression for paying an extra $130 for a better product.
 
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I'm still on a 6-8yearold machine waiting for an upgrade for my u2711.... When will we have legit ips adobe RGB gaming monitors so I can buy some 1080ti's? I'm stuck at 60fps and lowering settings because I refuse to side grade for so much money.
 
Megalith said:
Today's Titan has 12GB of GDDR5X VRAM and simply halving it would result in a GTX 1080 Ti that had 6GB of VRAM, something that Nvidia would simply not release given the fact that their GTX 1080 has 8GB of VRAM. With the GTX Titan series always having a VRAM capacity lead over their desktop counterparts we expect the GTX 1080Ti to have either 10GB of GDDR5X VRAM, using a cut-down memory bus to allow for the GPUs lower VRAM capacity.
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Why would you assume the ti has anymore ram that the regular 1080?
 
I kept holding off upgrading from my 680 in hopes that the 1080Ti was gonna be in the $800 range. If the pricing is indeed at $1k I'm just gonna buy a 1080.
 
cyclone3d said:
Inflation. $300 back then was a whole lot more than $300 now.
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It is roughly equivalent to 490 of today's dollars, which is why I say it is small potatoes compared to the pricing of current flagship cards.
 
Prod1702 said:
AMD needs to get their game together and start putting out stuff to make NV lower prices. Man this is getting crazy.
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NV fans need to get their game together and stop buying overpriced products so that NV will start to lower prices. Man this is getting crazy.

See what I did there?
 
the_real_7 said:
Always bet on the T.i. version of the Titan to win , in the high end sector for price vs performance kills
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"Ti" is short for Titanium; it's not an acronym. It's been that way since they introduced it with the GeForce3. Every time I hear a streamer say "T-I" I want to reach through my screen and slap them across the face...
 
Creig said:
NV fans need to get their game together and stop buying overpriced products so that NV will start to lower prices. Man this is getting crazy.

See what I did there?
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Why would they, when AMD's products aren't leaders, even in the price/performance section? You can't ask folks to buy products that aren't good value for their dollar simply because of "ideals". And NVIDIA has almost all the market segments tied up. It's why so many of us (including myself) are hoping that Vega will be like the 7970 was -- namely, a front-runner (even if only for a short amount of time). Being well-priced compared to NVIDIA's offerings is practically a given, at this stage of the game. NVIDIA holds practically all the cards.
Look at it this way: I'm currently running a custom GTX 980 Ti (actually, one of the best custom clocked GTX 980 Ti's out there). It's easily comparable in performance to a GTX 1070. Why would I want to get Vega, if I can easily match it? That would be a waste of money (and I don't have a FreeSync monitor).
The weaknesses (both real and perceived) of AMD are what leads us to have these sorts of discussions. If AMD wasn't in a major pitfall of it's own making (the R&D cuts to the graphics division several years ago), we wouldn't be talking.
As it stands, AMD needs to have wins both with Vega and with Zen, and they need to be strong enough to stir up the market, and get them a lot more market share than they have now.
 
DPI said:
Not a chance.
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Then you can't do 10gb on a 384-bit bus. If they do old school memory setups, it'll be 6 at full speed and 4 at 2/3s. With Crossbars, they can lock it to minimal low speed. Hell it might even be less than I'm saying, maybe 9gb with 1 slow. Fact of the matter is it won't all be full speed.
 
tungt88 said:
Why would they, when AMD's products aren't leaders, even in the price/performance section? You can't ask folks to buy products that aren't good value for their dollar simply because of "ideals".
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I picked up a factory overclocked, triple-fan 8GB RX480 a few weeks ago for $215 after rebate. At the time, no 6GB GTX1060 could even touch that price. And I've seen aftermarket 4GB RX480's available for $180 after rebate. How is that not leading Price : Performance? How is that not the "good value for their dollar" that you claim AMD isn't providing? AMD is VERY competitive in the price : performance category and always has been. It's Nvidia that typically wins the performance crown but loses in the $ per FPS category.

tungt88 said:
And NVIDIA has almost all the market segments tied up. It's why so many of us (including myself) are hoping that Vega will be like the 7970 was -- namely, a front-runner (even if only for a short amount of time). Being well-priced compared to NVIDIA's offerings is practically a given, at this stage of the game. NVIDIA holds practically all the cards. Look at it this way: I'm currently running a custom GTX 980 Ti (actually, one of the best custom clocked GTX 980 Ti's out there). It's easily comparable in performance to a GTX 1070. Why would I want to get Vega, if I can easily match it? That would be a waste of money (and I don't have a FreeSync monitor). The weaknesses (both real and perceived) of AMD are what leads us to have these sorts of discussions. If AMD wasn't in a major pitfall of it's own making (the R&D cuts to the graphics division several years ago), we wouldn't be talking. As it stands, AMD needs to have wins both with Vega and with Zen, and they need to be strong enough to stir up the market, and get them a lot more market share than they have now.
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The point I was trying to make is that there are two possible paths to lowering Nvidia high end video card pricing.

The first method (which is the only one Nvidia fans seem to care about) is for AMD to put out an equivalent product. Yes, that may induce a pricing war that may cause Nvidia to drop pricing on its high end products. But it's by no means a guarantee. As long as people continue to purchase Nvidia cards at the prices that Nvidia dictates, then there is no reason for them to lower prices. Nvidia's fanbase is very similar to that of Apple's fanbase. They both seem willing to drop tremendous amounts of money on products before the reviews even hit the web. They'll continue to buy Nvidia products even if a faster, better AMD card is available. As long as Nvidia has their "Nvidia or nothing" crowd behind them, don't expect to see high end video card pricing change much. If at all.

The second method to get Nvidia to drop their pricing is the one that Nvidia fans don't want to hear about. STOP BUYING NVIDIA PRODUCTS. So many people here moan and bitch and complain about Nvidia pricing, blame AMD for their woes and then run out and buy one or more of the most expensive gaming video cards ever produced as quickly as they can. You don't think that if Nvidia suddenly found itself with warehouses of high end video cards that nobody wanted to buy that they wouldn't start dropping prices on them? It's a no-brainer. If Nvidia sales of high end video cards dropped to a trickle, they would lower pricing. But too many people seem to be of the opinion that high end video gaming is only slightly less important to them than breathing. I could easily afford to go out and buy top end everything. But as I've stated before, I prefer to get the best bang for my buck. I don't believe in spending thousands of dollars every couple of years just to play video games. AMD has given us affordable gaming for many years so I don't see any reason why I shouldn't continue buying their products.
 
Creig said:
I picked up a factory overclocked, triple-fan 8GB RX480 a few weeks ago for $215 after rebate. At the time, no 6GB GTX1060 could even touch that price. And I've seen aftermarket 4GB RX480's available for $180 after rebate. How is that not leading Price : Performance? How is that not the "good value for their dollar" that you claim AMD isn't providing? AMD is VERY competitive in the price : performance category and always has been. It's Nvidia that typically wins the performance crown but loses in the $ per FPS category.


The point I was trying to make is that there are two possible paths to lowering Nvidia high end video card pricing.

The first method (which is the only one Nvidia fans seem to care about) is for AMD to put out an equivalent product. Yes, that may induce a pricing war that may cause Nvidia to drop pricing on its high end products. But it's by no means a guarantee. As long as people continue to purchase Nvidia cards at the prices that Nvidia dictates, then there is no reason for them to lower prices. Nvidia's fanbase is very similar to that of Apple's fanbase. They both seem willing to drop tremendous amounts of money on products before the reviews even hit the web. They'll continue to buy Nvidia products even if a faster, better AMD card is available. As long as Nvidia has their "Nvidia or nothing" crowd behind them, don't expect to see high end video card pricing change much. If at all.

The second method to get Nvidia to drop their pricing is the one that Nvidia fans don't want to hear about. STOP BUYING NVIDIA PRODUCTS. So many people here moan and bitch and complain about Nvidia pricing, blame AMD for their woes and then run out and buy one or more of the most expensive gaming video cards ever produced as quickly as they can. You don't think that if Nvidia suddenly found itself with warehouses of high end video cards that nobody wanted to buy that they wouldn't start dropping prices on them? It's a no-brainer. If Nvidia sales of high end video cards dropped to a trickle, they would lower pricing. But too many people seem to be of the opinion that high end video gaming is only slightly less important to them than breathing. I could easily afford to go out and buy top end everything. But as I've stated before, I prefer to get the best bang for my buck. I don't believe in spending thousands of dollars every couple of years just to play video games. AMD has given us affordable gaming for many years so I don't see any reason why I shouldn't continue buying their products.
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  1. Picked up a GTX 1060 6GB (as my backup card) for $225, no rebates from Micro Center two weeks ago -- and there are 3GB GTX 1060s starting at $199 from Newegg/Micro Center, amongst other places. Given that the GTX 1060 3GB is around 5-10% behind the GTX 1060 6GB in most 1080p gaming benchmarks, that isn't shabby at all. (aka those would also be price/performance leaders).
  2. Why would people stop buying NVIDIA? I go to the local Micro Center like 1-2 times per week and always hit up the "video card" section, and have listened in on quite a few "video card conversations" amongst prospective buyers and store employees. You know how many "common joes", or even folks who have some smattering of tech, already go for NVIDIA? It isn't just the fanboys. The perception amongst people who have some idea of tech (just enough to know what AMD/NVIDIA are, and that they make video cards) is that AMD stuff is "unreliable". That may not be true, but AMD does have that rep amongst guys who, most likely, have less knowledge than your regular HardOCP'er, or tech forum devotee. And it is those folks who are willing to pay more (like $10-25 more) for an NVIDIA product, because they are told by friends/family/store workers that NVIDIA is more reliable.
  3. Your choice is your own -- good for you, but others choose with their dollars as well. And right now, that is NVIDIA, as the market share and profits show.
  4. (Seemingly obligatory disclaimer) I'm not a "fanboy" of either camp (actually bought a $600+ Powercolor R9 390 Devil 13 Dual Core back in late December, and really liked it).
  5. If there's anyone to blame, blame Rory Read and the other guys who slashed AMD GPU R&D severely several years back. Read is out of the picture now, but in his foolishness, he bequeathed a real steaming mess to AMD's current leadership (Lisa Su/Raja Koduri).
  6. As for "changing AMD's brand mentality", it's really simple (if difficult to execute): AMD needs to put out superior products at better prices, over an extended period of time to erase consumer perceptions of "AMD unreliability" (this is best seen in the resale market, where NVIDIA continues to command a higher price, as I have experienced multiple times when selling off my spare NVIDIA/AMD video cards). "Superior" being defined as winning in outright performance. The R9 290/x series was the last product that surprised NVIDIA (I was an early GTX 780 adopter and felt shafted when the R9 290s came out).
Trust me, I'd much rather prefer to see a very competitive AMD. But AMD has to really step up to the plate. If anything, Polaris' aggressive pricing (at the time) showed that AMD was willing to make some financial sacrifices in order to stay relevant. But more needs to be done -- a LOT more, which is why many of us are hoping that Vega/Zen will turn out tops for AMD (myself included). Not too likely, so far (due to fighting a "two-front war" with NVIDIA [and, gasp, the even more monolithic, established, super-well-financed, and ruthless] Intel) but one can always hope.

All these are major sidetracks from the OP's post though.

I'm curious myself to see what the GTX 1080 Ti ends up being, specs-wise.
 
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