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I'll ask you both the same question: will Russia benefit more if Hillary is elected?
3 pages in and not 1 person yet has considered that the leaks are internal? Either through a Democratic Party insider or through a branch of the intelligence agency?
My take: People in the NSA DO NOT want Hillary Clinton elected into the presidency. They just can't tell we the people it on mainstream media. She has gotten a lot of covert people killed throughout her corrupted career.
Internal = 100%
I can't wait for the election to be over, so every thread or post or video on the internet stops turning into a trump vs clinton bashing contest.
I swear, presidential elections are worse for this country and cause more problems and division than the presidents that we elect do.
Good thing then that I don't give a shit what you think. It's so easy to be so common.Have you ever worked for the government? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds?
Good thing then that I don't give a shit what you think. It's so easy to be so common.
So you mean like your average MSM/CNN viewers reality, I got it. However 'most' people can't even understand that eating less food means being less fat. Most 'normal' people are as stupid as they're programmed to be by schooling and MSM, period. Their only responses are character attacks. You ever notice that?You do not live in the reality that most other normal people are carrying about in.
Now think about your average citizen and then remember your claim.'Common' is just the point,
Yeah, normal people like James Comey, Obama and Hillary Clinton. 'Normal' people working for elites with actual money and power. Or are 'elites' just a conspiracy theory now too?being a dimwit means you are incapable of recognizing that normal people work for the government.
Listen, if you don't actually have anything useful to say other than the typical petty puerile attacks then just STFU. It's pretty sad when I'm assuming you're a democrat just by the way you present yourself. Do yourself a favor, stop being so damn petty, it's telling.When you grow up, move out, and communicate with real people you'll realize how idiotic you sound right now.
However, as an outsider looking in, it seems Russia has played you (americans). Putin likely cares little who is president
So you mean like your average MSM/CNN viewers reality, I got it. However 'most' people can't even understand that eating less food means being less fat. Most 'normal' people are as stupid as they're programmed to be by schooling and MSM, period. Their only responses are character attacks. You ever notice that?Now think about your average citizen and then remember your claim. Yeah, normal people like James Comey, Obama and Hillary Clinton. 'Normal' people working for elites with actual money and power. Or are 'elites' just a conspiracy theory now too?Listen, if you don't actually have anything useful to say other than the typical petty puerile attacks then just STFU. It's pretty sad when I'm assuming you're a democrat just by the way you present yourself. Do yourself a favor, stop being so damn petty, it's telling.
Like we got for months in 2000 and 2004 en masse or like the fleeting moans of 2008 or 2012?Well, unfortunately, if HRC wins, we're going to get a ton of derailing posts about how she stole the election.
I'm guessing it will be better if he loses. Of course with Russia is suddenly cleared of any wrongdoing in less than 4 months and all the Democrats feign amnesia for the whole thing. That'll be funny on some level. What'll even be funnier is how high the bar for "how bad it would have been if Trump...." will get raised over time to excuse the mass regret of supporting Hillary. Talking about how loose women are all over the entertainment industry (essentially a cliche) as its sexual assault will pail in comparison.If Trump wins, we might be in for some good comedy.
Registered republican not voting for Trump, but thanks anyways.
It's laughable that you honestly believe the alphabet agencies and the people that work for them have nothing better to do, and are within legal authority to do the things that you claim they are.
And i'd agree with our foreign visitor poster who says that Putin is playing both sides. You're no better then the far-left 'anointed ones' who have been ruining this country for the past 8 years, and i'm ashamed my party has largely been taken over by the tin foil hat wearing idiots like you.
So you're hoping for a Clinton win then, I get it. As the actual conservative Supreme Court is at risk, you know. You definitely win the dazed and confused award. I take it that you want/don't mind open borders? If so, it's time to come out of the closest as aRegistered republican not voting for Trump, but thanks anyways.
Actual reality can be confusing to a lot of people. Like proper diets. My bad though that other peoples personal opinions make you lash out in anger and act like a fool by resorting to what's basically nothing more than petty name-calling. Either way the only people that have this kind of intelligence gathering power in the USA (in actual reality) are still located at the NSA. Have you even went through the WikiLeaks? This was around the clock monitoring (storing of information), not just a few hacks/breaches in security. I mean, if you actually thought about it, that is. Even Snowden's massive leaks were from inside the NSA and took some time to compile. In my opinion the only thing Russia is laughing at is that they're being blamed for one more thing. As this was clearly an internal leak.Getting pissy about 'petty puerile attacks'? Then don't light the fire.
Nice making stuff up. Learn to comprehend what you actually read, not just respond to what you think you/wanted to read. However nothing better to do than to sway a presidential election for the most powerful country (the very country in which they reside) on Earth from pure evil to just asshole? Sounds pretty important to me. Facts also matter in an election last time I checked. Then again I don't watch much CNN or MSM. The whole anonymous leak thing has some serious value as well. I guess you missed that part though, too. Legal authority? I guess you also completely missed what Obama has already done to this country. The WikiLeaks releases more than confirmed the Obama administration's utter corruption. In reality a candidate that should be in prison is still running for the presidency. Yet Trump hurt your feelings with mean words, so the exact same thing that you've been doing right here yourself. So you're not voting Republican because Trump hurt(s) your fragile feelings? That's what I call a Clinton supporter = more Obama policies = what you literally just complained about = no sense = none. Great Republican you are.It's laughable that you honestly believe the alphabet agencies and the people that work for them have nothing better to do, and are within legal authority to do the things that you claim they are.
I hope it has been taken over (for good) because of the sad excuse for Republicans (like you claim to be) that have just stood idly by doing exactly nothing. You're fired! Sit your ass down. Instead of doing something productive (like voting R to save the conservative supreme court) you just resorted to going online and calling everything you're too silly to comprehend conspiracy theories. I'm glad you're ashamed, you should be ashamed, and I hope that you live out the rest of your days in shame. I bet Paul 'Judas' Ryan is your favorite Republican too.You're no better then the far-left 'anointed ones' who have been ruining this country for the past 8 years, and I'm ashamed my party has largely been taken over by the tin foil hat wearing idiots like you.
Of course you would, as that's seriously the easiest thought to form on the issue, which says a lot. Constantly blaming Russia for outside influence allows you to just ignore the glaring flaws in our own presidential elections internally. However back in actual reality Hillary Clinton was still programmed for (paid for) more wars for more profits. Donald Trump on the other hand wants more money for rebuilding the USA and actual global cooperation. So there goes that stupid shit right out the fucking window. Putin would gain FAR more for his peoples future by being the USA's actual friend than foe = common sense. The USA is also far far more likely to fall from corruption within its own borders too, so just like Rome did. So we should all be looking in the mirror, not worrying about the country that's actually worried about us blowing it off the fucking map, possibly ending human life on Earth. So with that said, of course Russia is interested in the election outcome, just like everyone with a brain should be. The USA can only be a bully nation for so long before half the world fights back against it. So either actual global peace is coming or WWIII is inevitable.And i'd agree with our foreign visitor poster who says that Putin is playing both sides.
You are like a walking stereotype and your posts are painful to read. I make the most money off of people like you.
Because I think the guy is a piece of shit. I don't watch much TV so I'm pretty unaffected by big media bias. I actually run a political news website that specifically targets Trump supporters because they provide higher earnings per click.
You are like a walking stereotype and your posts are painful to read. I make the most money off of people like you.
https://archive.isYou are like a walking stereotype and your posts are painful to read. I make the most money off of people like you.
How is this "calling me out"? I said the guy is a piece of shit and you think it's because of what he got caught saying with Billy Bush?I am only taking time to call you out, because you claim to have the power of persuasion over others.
Being a shithead is the hallmark of the freedoms we have in America. The Constitution is littered with rights that specifically protect the shitheads in this country.
Humans are shitheads by nature. The entire purpose of society is to establish rules for differentiating what is being a normal shithead and what is being a criminal. The reason we have moral compasses and religion is because we know humans are not moral and fair by nature. That's why we have to indoctrinate children about how to act, because they will not act properly if left to their own devices.
- 1st Amendment allows shitheads to think whatever they want and say whatever they want.
- 4th Amendment allows you to hide shit unless the government is somehow able to know exactly what to look for.
- 5th Amendment means we have to prove you are shithead, and in case you are a super shithead and get out of it, we can't charge you again.
- 6th Amendment says just because you are shithead doesn't mean we are allowed to treat you like shit.
- 7th Amendment says if you do get caught being a shithead, we allow other shitheads like yourself to determine if you went over the line.
- 8th Amendment says just because you are shithead doesn't mean we are allowed to treat you like shit.
Donald Trump's infamous "pussy" comment was probably one of the greatest turning points in this election for me. It exposed the flawed mentality....or rather unconstitutional mentality that many people in this country have now. I have not heard one politician publicly defend Donald on his god given right to say that. The phrase was nonsensical....normally a good indicator of humor and jest.
Saying offensive things is EXACTLY what the 1st Amendment was designed to protect. If you chastise someone for saying something offensive in private and the target of the offensive comment is never aware of it, then what offensive things would you condone? I ask this, if you believe what he said is something that should never be said. Then give me an example of something offensive that is ok to say. This is usually where the whole argument breaks down, because there is nothing offensive that's ok to say. That's why we protected it.
Most people do not like the Westboro Church. But we allow it. Why?
Most poeple do not agree with race supremecy groups. But we allow it. Why?
When I hear these bleeding heart politicians and celebrities cry about "How can I look my 10 year old daughter in the eye and explain what Donald Trump said?" Here is what your tell her. You look your daughter in the eye and tell her she lives in the greatest country in the world where personal freedom isn't a gift, it's a right that no one can take away. You tell her that she has every right to be offended by words, but that the right to be offended does not have precedence over the other persons right to say something offensive. You tell her that the reason we protect offensive thought and expression is because that very same right is what allows every person to vote for who they want president barring the 3 requirements outlined in the Constitution. Every person in this country has the right to steer the destiny of this country regardless of what they think or say.
The ONLY obligation the President of the United States has is to protect the rights of the citizens of this country. I would gladly trust someone who also uses those rights then someone who shames others for using the rights outlined in the Constitution.
It saddens me that Huffington Post is one of the most frequented websites on the Internet.
What is a credible news outlet? What does that mean? How do you quantify that? It's all opinion, it's all bias. I have not been to those two site you listed so I can't comment on what type of content or style the use.
no kidding. We KNOW that CNN/MSNBC/HuffPo/NYT and most other mainstream media outlets aren't even a little credible anymore.
edit Social media outlets, like r/the_donald, has been... by far.... the most credible source of news since the general election started
Lmfao at citing a subreddit as your credible source of news.
You can laugh all you want.... but that's what the MSM did to itself. It made twitter and reddit a better source of news...
The concept you're talking about is the Overton window, the size of which was historically defined by how large media disseminated information to the public. The internet has taken away control of the Overton window from big media, which is part of the large reason we see so much extremism in the news these days in an attempt to polarize the public opinion. Polarization leads to tribalism, which leads to dependency on information sources, which leads to the echo chambers we see today. In an era with traditional media dying out, these business will do anything to keep their revenue streams flowing, but in the search revenue they are complicit in fundamentally changing society for the worse.The method in which information is propagated is different now. The "news" represented a 1 way communication conduit with limited ownership (whether tv, radio or print). The viewers couldn't respond back to the news. So we were stuck listening passively to whoever owned the conduit. But the Internet provides 2 way communication and unlimited ownership. Now people can communicate directly. Is it messy? Sure. But now people are being forced to hone their own arguments as they square off against each other.
We no longer need an arbiter to tell us what to think or believe. We can take in as much information as we choose from whatever sources we choose and make our own decisions. This, I believe, is why Drudge is so popular. Yes, he chooses articles based on his own certain biases and agendas (you can't escape that). But it's not HIS words we are reading. He only acts as an aggregator of articles. Which means there is no collusion amongst the news articles.
Social media is very dangerous to the history of news propagation and those that specialize in steering public sentiment. I hope it doesn't happen, but it would not surprise me if social media starts getting reigned in, in the next decade or so. There is no historical precedence to what we are seeing right now with regards to the populace having a voice and having power.
EDIT: I will actually give Trump much credit for what he said about social media during the 3rd debate. When asked about his "3AM tweets" he chided the moderator and said this is the new way of communicating and that people need to accept that. He was absolutely right. Saying something on Twitter at 3AM would be no different then writing down something at 3AM and then saying it on the radio during operating hours. This only shows how fluid information is now....that you can put something out at 3AM and it be seen (heard).
I swear, presidential elections are worse for this country and cause more problems and division than the presidents that we elect do.
My take: People in the NSA DO NOT want Hillary Clinton elected into the presidency. They just can't tell we the people it on mainstream media. She has gotten a lot of covert people killed throughout her corrupted career.
Internal = 100%