EVGA GTX 970 vs GTX 1060 (for the upcoming games, Battlefield 1, COD)

Cannibal Corpse

Cannibal Corpse

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Dear all,
I need to know if I need to replace my graphics card, or will it be able to handle the graphics of the new upcoming games, such as Battlefield 1, and Call of Duty Infinite Warfare.

Here is my system:


Intel i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake)
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z170 MARK 1
EVGA 16GB DDR4-2800
EVGA GTX 970 SC
Corsair HX850W
Corsair 760T Case

Thanks for your kind recommendations and comments in advance!
 
Also, coming from a 970, I'd go for at least a 1070, 1060 is an upgrade to 980'ish performance, so for the money spent, it's not nearly as good as going to a 1070.
 
I am sorry, I forgot to mention that I have this setup connected to a Sony Bravia LED, and the running resolution is 1080p: no dual/triple monitor setup, etc.
 
I would wait for Vega and the subsequent price drops from Nv's reaction to Vegans. Ya never know, you might find 1080 perf for the price of a 1070 by Q2.
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
I am sorry, I forgot to mention that I have this setup connected to a Sony Bravia LED, and the running resolution is 1080p: no dual/triple monitor setup, etc.
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The GTX 970 will handle BF1 but you would have to drop your settings. My sig rig handles BF1 @ 1080p and 1440p beautifully. The perfect card for your rig performance/money wise would be GTX1070 or GTX980TI. You can grab GTX 1070 for around $360 and 980 TI for around $300. I would sell GTX970. Did you get your refund from Nvidia for 3.5GB fiaso?
 
Iching said:
The GTX 970 will handle BF1 but you would have to drop your settings. My sig rig handles BF1 @ 1080p and 1440p beautifully. The perfect card for your rig performance/money wise would be GTX1070 or GTX980TI. You can grab GTX 1070 for around $360 and 980 TI for around $300. I would sell GTX970. Did you get your refund from Nvidia for 3.5GB fiaso?
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No, what is all this about? And how much can I sell my 970?
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
The interesting thins is that the 970 is selling for $250+ on online stores. Is it because that it is still a valid GPU?
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No, it's because Nvidia has dictator-like control over pricing, and will never actually cut prices, just drop supply and force like-purchses (e.g. for SLI) to go for an arm and a leg compared to actual performance even when new cards are out.
 
I just built a system for a friend with a used gtx970. It's still a perfectly good gpu. Would not buy one new, but a used one will give you 90% of gtx1060 performance for 50-60% of the price (depends on how cheap you can get the 970). Dx12 is still far from being widely adopted and once it gets (if it gets) widely adopted the 1060 will be outdated anyway.
 
thesmokingman said:
At 180 bucks, not at 250.
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Excellent, so I should keep my 970 then. As I stated originally, I am only planning to run it in a 1080p mode, with the following components:

Intel i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake)
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z170 MARK 1
EVGA 16GB DDR4-2800
EVGA GTX 970 SC
Corsair HX850W
Corsair 760T Case

I hope I don't have to lower some of the "eye-candy" settings in the Battlefield 1 and the new upcoming COD.
 
Cannibal Corpse said:
Excellent, so I should keep my 970 then. As I stated originally, I am only planning to run it in a 1080p mode, with the following components:

Intel i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake)
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z170 MARK 1
EVGA 16GB DDR4-2800
EVGA GTX 970 SC
Corsair HX850W
Corsair 760T Case

I hope I don't have to lower some of the "eye-candy" settings in the Battlefield 1 and the new upcoming COD.
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Therein lies the problem. Some people are "ultra or bust" people and don't mind playing games at 30fps. I refuse to do that and prefer higher fps in most stuff I play. So to keep this short and to the point you will certainly not be running all ultra settings in BF1 and expect to get consistently higher than 60fps.

And to the guy talking about 180 vs 250 bucks I wasn't talking about the card from a value perspective but simply a performance perspective.
 
The only think to watch for Is 1060 can't sli. 970 sli is a beast. Super cheap to get used ones now.
 
Faster than a 980 or 1060, generally slower than a 980 Ti or 1070. You can sell the 970 for about $180 and use the money you would have paid for another one to upgrade to a 1070, though. SLI rarely makes sense these days.
 
970 SLI is roughly 980ti, which in turn is roughly 1070 performance.

Given that comparison, it's worth jumping onto 1070, which also has the added bonus of a bigger and unsegmented VRAM, despite that at 1080p you are less likely to run into VRAM issue, 8GB pretty much eliminates that possibility.
 
I wouldn't upgrade, rumor is NVIDIA is refreshing the pascal line up in January. You're at 1080p, that card will handle that NO PROBLEM for a while.
 
skeeder said:
I wouldn't upgrade, rumor is NVIDIA is refreshing the pascal line up in January. You're at 1080p, that card will handle that NO PROBLEM for a while.
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Nvidia is RUMORED to refresh Pascal in January, not confirmed.
 
I have a 3 quick questions:

1) Is this GTX 1070 card the 'founders edition'? If so, I thought that Kyle mentioned in his reviews that the only way to get these cards is only through nVIDIA.com?

2) So seems the 970 (and 980, and 1060 for that matter) is good for 1080p gaming, and therefore:

GTX 1070 = 2560x1440

GTX 1080 = 3840x2160

I don't care (nor have the actual 4K display) for anything larger than 1080p, therefore, the reason I wanted to upgrade my GTX 970, was the fact that I wanted to enable MOST of the eye-candy settings in the new upcoming games, WHILE playing at 1080p resolution.

3) If GTX 970 is not able to do that, would a GTX 1070 be able to? (able to have MOST setting to ULTRA or the highest, at 1080p)

Thanks!
 
Answer to 1) Founder's Editions can be sold through other companies (EVGA, Zotac, ASUS, MSI, etc. all sell Founder's Editions). Founder's Editions are made by nVidia though.

3) I don't have a lot of demanding games yet; the answer to your question is highly dependent on what games you plan on running.
 
To add to Algrim, the only card that is currently available through nVidia.com, right now, is Titan X (Pascal).

Historically, all reference cards (Founder's Edition is also a reference design), including all previous versions of Titan (AFAIK) are all sold by the other companies. EG you'd be able to get Founder's Edition GTX 1070 from Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, Galax, etc etc, and they'll be the same design, just different people handling the warranty

Titan XP is the first GPU, to my knowledge, that nVidia has actively cut out the middleman. No one but nVidia.com are selling the Titan XP's.

1070 should be sufficient to max out nearly all of the most demanding games at 1080p. I have GTX 1080 maxing out more games than not on 1440p, which comparatively have less performance than a 1070 on a 1080p setup (20% more horsepower on a screen with 78% more pixels). The ones you can't max out are definitely the minor exceptions than the rule (Mankind divided comes to mind, TW3 should be maxable on 1070 at 1080p, or very close to it).
 
I personally would not buy the Founder's edition simply because it rewards nVidia's fleecing via ridiculous Founder's Edition pricing. (There are certain forum posts on OCN that indicate that FE cards do tend to boost higher than non-FE cards, though I don't think we have enough of a sample size to know that for sure.) Considering that most Pascal cards so far seem to boost to almost the same level regardless of who makes it, I'd get the cheapest one you can and be happy. I picked up the first one in your question because it was only 10.00 USD more than the non-OC edition when I was shopping and I wanted the extra features (aka the LEDs :)).
 
Here's a new thread on OCN in regard to 1070 Roundup:

[CB] GTX 1070, Which partner card is the best?

The thread a while back about 1080 Roundup is where a forum poster commented on the FE cards boosting consistently higher (not mentioned in the thread I just linked). Palit and Gainward seem to have the largest boosts (and also matches the experiences in the 1080 Roundup thread posted a few months ago).

Good luck with your decision! (y)
 
Algrim said:
Here's a new thread on OCN in regard to 1070 Roundup:

[CB] GTX 1070, Which partner card is the best?

The thread a while back about 1080 Roundup is where a forum poster commented on the FE cards boosting consistently higher (not mentioned in the thread I just linked). Palit and Gainward seem to have the largest boosts (and also matches the experiences in the 1080 Roundup thread posted a few months ago).

Good luck with your decision! (y)
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Thanks, I really appreciate it all!
 
I am getting an average of 35 to 48 FPS in the Campaign mode of Battlefield 1 on my GTX 970: it is very playable, and I really didn't notice any jerkiness (except in Forza 6 APEX). Should I keep my GTX 970 and forgo the GTX 1070? I know the upcoming CALL OF DUTY is going to be much more demanding.
 
If you're happy with the relative performance of what you have then I'd keep it unless you're planning on selling it (used prices are going to continue to plummet).
 
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