How And Why You Should Invest In A Dash Cam

You "refuse to drive unsafely or violate the law', right after telling us you speed, sit in the fast lane most of the time and flash your high beams at people.

Hypocrite all day long.
 
[21CW]killerofall said:
I am thinking about getting the Black Box G1W-CB. Anyone have positive or negative experiences with it (or with any of the G1W variants)?
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id09542 said:
I have been using the G1W-C going on 2 years now. Works well, typical funky Chinese instructions, but it has been bullet proof for me. Do not use Samsung EVO memory cards, the for some reason they fry themselves after a few weeks of use. Video quality is surprisingly good.
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I'll echo this response for the most part. 1-2 years with the G1W-CB--as said, it's Chinese, funky instructions and a little clunky to set up, but once configured has been ok. Not perfect, but ok: if I pull the power, I think it is supposed to attempt to save the current 2 minute "loop" with the remaining juice in the capacitor, but I've found it fails to do so in time and the last loop gets corrupted. That sounds bad, but realistically it just means if you need the footage, either wait (X) minutes until you know you're on the next loop or just press the record button (to manually stop). I can't comment on the Samsung Evo thing.

TLDR, clunky but workable. Oh and it is cheap as dirt.


Postscript: is this a dash cam thread or a bitchy-whiny internet argument? Something happened between OP and here...
 
I have a Thinkware F50. it's 1080p with the Sony exmor cmos sensor. it detects collisions and you can set the sensitivity of what it detects. even pot holes set it off sometimes. that software that came with it is pretty good. for 99 bucks I have no complaints.
 
Quix said:
I actually had to look up the term "brake checking", it's not a term I've heard before. Here in Canada the tailgater would be 100% at fault, drivers have right of way over vehicles behind them in the same lane.
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Not true, as otherwise it'd be ripe for insurance abuse. For example, there's a common scam of having a large vehicle such as a van get in front of a target vehicle. He will be in communication with another vehicle up ahead, and tell that car to come to a complete stop quickly on the highway. The second large vehicle, say a van, waits until the last possible second and swerves around the stopped vehicle on the highway, causing the vehicle behind him to crash (no way to come to a complete stop, even with a safe 2 second following distance at 70mph). It then smacks into the stopped vehicle, who are all ready to sue for medical injuries.

Laws and Regulations

Here's its even on the books showing that brake checking is fined by 2 demerit points, so somebody in Canada is doing it if it made it into law.

They call it "braking without cause" instead of brake checking, but its all the same thing.
 
Ducman69 said:
Not true, as otherwise it'd be ripe for insurance abuse. For example, there's a common scam of having a large vehicle such as a van get in front of a target vehicle. He will be in communication with another vehicle up ahead, and tell that car to come to a complete stop quickly on the highway. The second large vehicle, say a van, waits until the last possible second and swerves around the stopped vehicle on the highway, causing the vehicle behind him to crash (no way to come to a complete stop, even with a safe 2 second following distance at 70mph). It then smacks into the stopped vehicle, who are all ready to sue for medical injuries.

Laws and Regulations

Here's its even on the books showing that brake checking is fined by 2 demerit points, so somebody in Canada is doing it if it made it into law.

They call it "braking without cause" instead of brake checking, but its all the same thing.
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The issue here is proving someone had no reason to stop. Your dashcam won't see in front of the vehicle o front of you. God only knows why they needed to brake suddenly.

Pro tip: don't tailgate.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
LOL, I guess you suggest I should have driven THROUGH the car infront of me? :p

Besides it is excruciatingly clear that booth I and the car infront of me are travelling faster than the traffic to our immediate right.
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Not hardly fast enough...why bother. Get yer ass over to the right.
 
auntjemima said:
The issue here is proving someone had no reason to stop. Your dashcam won't see in front of the vehicle o front of you. God only knows why they needed to brake suddenly.

Pro tip: don't tailgate.
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Of course don't tailgate, but that wasn't the point. You don't have to tailgate to be caught in that type of insurance scam, as no vehicle can come to a complete stop in the amount of time it takes a vehicle in front of you to swerve if they intentionally wait until the last moment.

That's just simple physics.

Nor is it possible in normal traffic to maintain sufficient distance to be able to come to a complete stop instantaneously from behind another vehicle, because as you back up to extreme distances, someone is likely to pull into that lane causing you to have to slow down to increase the gap, and then someone will pull in to that gap, rinse and repeat until you are causing a traffic hazard by going far below the normal flow of traffic, which is, per the government, the number one root cause of accidents in the United States.

So the point is that the following vehicle by law is not always found to be 100% at fault in a rear end accident.
 
Dashcams are now pretty standard on all vehicles these days, even mopeds have them (either installed on their moped or on their helms like sports camera), because Police here only has the power to say who is in the wrong, not what happens after it.

Some even go as far as having 6 or possibly more different dash cams installed, basically capturing proof of how the accident happened, if the driver was signalling, whether they were tailgating etc etc.

Not that they are any good at it, but generally speaking, unless the other guy was definitively breaking law (EG drink driving) rather than traffic violation, the end result is usually BOTH parties gets blamed (One gets traffic violation, the other rule abiding citizen would usually get something along the lines of "not paying enough attention to surroundings").

Dashcams footage is the only way this can be proved otherwise, and elsewhere.

It has become so common now, that the only instance where one WOULDN'T install one, is when it's illegal to do so.
 
chenw said:
Dashcams are now pretty standard on all vehicles these days, even mopeds have them (either installed on their moped or on their helms like sports camera), because Police here only has the power to say who is in the wrong, not what happens after it.

Some even go as far as having 6 or possibly more different dash cams installed, basically capturing proof of how the accident happened, if the driver was signalling, whether they were tailgating etc etc.

Not that they are any good at it, but generally speaking, unless the other guy was definitively breaking law (EG drink driving) rather than traffic violation, the end result is usually BOTH parties gets blamed (One gets traffic violation, the other rule abiding citizen would usually get something along the lines of "not paying enough attention to surroundings").

Dashcams footage is the only way this can be proved otherwise, and elsewhere.

It has become so common now, that the only instance where one WOULDN'T install one, is when it's illegal to do so.
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It is not So common.It is catching on though. I have one but have not installed it becouse I dont like the wire pluged in or the cam on the windshield. Ive never ben in an accident though and am 45. New cars should come with them non intrusive.
 
1/2 bent said:
It is not So common.It is catching on though. I have one but have not installed it becouse I dont like the wire pluged in or the cam on the windshield. Ive never ben in an accident though and am 45. New cars should come with them non intrusive.
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My apologies, I am speaking from my own country, it's actually rare to find a non-dashcam'ed car in Taiwan, it's so common here that police now assume every car has one and asks you for the SD card on the spot.

On my new car, the dash cam is on the top of the windscreen, and the wire runs through the roofboard, so it's very non-intrusive (my parking permit is more intrusive).
 
Have a Blackvue DR650GW-2CH installed in a brand new Buick Enclave
The first day a Tahoe backs into my SUV with a tow bar trying to park in an illegal spot and doesn't even get out to check for damage
Ask her WTF is she doing and denies everything.... I say no problem point to camera "I got it on video" she almost pissed herself on the spot then changed her tune
You never know when you need it... just nice to know you got it

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Zarathustra[H] said:
My Fiance gave me a super cheap shitty one as a joke after we watched some Russian dash cam videos online.

I imagine they have a legitimate purpose as evidence if there is an accident and an insurance company tries to screw you over.
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They are required by Russian insurance companies. People hate each other and tend to lie a lot. Dash cams are a good thing even though it must very sad to live in such society.
 
There are better or more in-depth sites as have been posted above, but for a more high level perspective, Wirecutter looked at these as well.

The Best Dash Cam
 
Darknyt said:
There are better or more in-depth sites as have been posted above, but for a more high level perspective, Wirecutter looked at these as well.

The Best Dash Cam
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Looks ok, but suction cups SUUUUUCCCKK. I've currently got the a118c, upgraded from a g1w that would occasionally be fallen off after leaving the car in the parking lot all day at work, downside is that it's got the high pitched microphone playback problem. I'd actually recommend a street guardian instead. The window mount is the best you'll find.

I got this event captured, couple of P plate 4wd's playing Tokyo drift in the wet. Fucking dickheads;



Audio was taken out for two reasons, the high pitch note in playback, and the fact that youtube auto scan cock suckers think they have a copyright claim over the music that's playing on my radio without considering the source and context of the playback.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
Here's obviously someone who shouldn't have a drivers license. Either you don't have a clue what safe driving entails, or you don't understand how wide angle lenses work. He was less than a half a foot from my front bumper at almost 80mph. I had to slam on my brakes to avoid hitting him.

Generally when driving, you should never pull out into traffic (or merge into a lane) if it causes any other driver to change their speed or take an evasive maneuver)

Proper following distance is two seconds, which at 80mph is 235ft or approximately 16.5 car lenghts. Not 6 inches.

What that driver did was EXTREMELY irresponsible. He shouldn't have a license at all anymore. It's a shame there is never a cop there when you need one (but there is one there when you are going 60mph in 55 zone...)

Even I was way too close to the Rav4 or whatever the hell that was infront of me. A safe following distance should have been 3+ times longer than the distance between me and that car (shame on me, if I recall, I was coasting down from a higher speed because traffic was slowing down and I didn't want to waste fuel by hitting the brakes), and then this douche driving extremely aggressively squeezes in where there is no space at all.

Add to that, he was obviously racing that black merc that came after him. If there had been a cop there, he would have lost his license for YEARS.


If you don't think what he did was dangerous, then sorry pal, you probably shouldn't have a license either.
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what he did was bad, however you need to learn how to relax..... you'll live longer :p

alxlwson said:
Dumbdumb driver from last week

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It is clear from the video that the truck was forced to move over when the other truck literally cut him off. At least you got a warning...via turn signal....
 
YeuEmMaiMai said:
It is clear from the video that the truck was forced to move over when the other truck literally cut him off. At least you got a warning...via turn signal....
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Ditto on this. There was enough room for him to get in your lane as well. It was close, but it was do that or risk collision with the truck that was pushing him over. If that would have happened, your expletives would have been much worse as you would have had truck debris all over your lane smashing up your car.
The death metal was pretty cool, what band is that btw (question to the video poster :p).
 
Hypergreatthing said:
Ditto on this. There was enough room for him to get in your lane as well. It was close, but it was do that or risk collision with the truck that was pushing him over. If that would have happened, your expletives would have been much worse as you would have had truck debris all over your lane smashing up your car.
The death metal was pretty cool, what band is that btw (question to the video poster :p).
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Cant remember lol. Had Google Play death metal station on. I think it may have been After The Burial though.
 
Absolutely you should have a dashcam. Front and rear cameras. If you're an Uber or minicab driver, especially if you're a male Uber driver, get one that records internally. There was a spate of crash-for-cash scams a few years back where people forced the car behind to crash into them so they could get a big insurance payout. Dashcams stop that dead. Personally, it stopped a claim against me where a car had rolled back onto mine.

Crash for Cash | Crimestoppers

How do I avoid being a ‘crash for cash’ victim?

New twist on crash for cash scam 'brings back highway robbery days' - Evening Express

etc.

I have a Koonlung K1S.
 
Tsumi said:
Without a warrant or a subpeona they cannot legally get that footage from you. The dashcams are for situations where fault isn't immediately clear from just looking at the accident scene or damage. Of course if you live in a no fault country or have no fault insurance...
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True, however if you did commit a crime, not misdemeanor of speeding, police can seize the cam due to the fact that the evidence could be damaged/tampered with if left in your possession, then they need only get a warrant to use that as evidence against you in court after the fact.
 
I've had a front and rear dashcam system since 2013. While I have never had to personally use it for anything directly related to me, I did report some probably drunk students driving one of those carshare-like cars. They hit the barrier on the highway and I submitted the video evidence to the company. The bottom line, the initial investment is a fair price to pay, especially if you live in a place like Ontario, Canada. I think <$500 dollars is a small investment to make for peace of mind (mind is two cameras + continuous power system that shuts off when battery reaches X voltage). The only other recurring cost is the SD cards. In my particular setup (continuous), write cycles are used up usually every year or so.
 
Ducman69 said:
Not true, as otherwise it'd be ripe for insurance abuse. For example, there's a common scam of having a large vehicle such as a van get in front of a target vehicle. He will be in communication with another vehicle up ahead, and tell that car to come to a complete stop quickly on the highway. The second large vehicle, say a van, waits until the last possible second and swerves around the stopped vehicle on the highway, causing the vehicle behind him to crash (no way to come to a complete stop, even with a safe 2 second following distance at 70mph). It then smacks into the stopped vehicle, who are all ready to sue for medical injuries.

Laws and Regulations

Here's its even on the books showing that brake checking is fined by 2 demerit points, so somebody in Canada is doing it if it made it into law.

They call it "braking without cause" instead of brake checking, but its all the same thing.
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I'd never head of that before, I don't live in Quebec (I live in Ontario, which doesn't have a rule like that). So I looked it up:

"The driver of a road vehicle shall not brake suddenly, unless compelled to do so for safety reasons."

That sounds pretty reasonable to me. So if "brake checking" is slamming your foot down on the brake when someone is tailgating, then I'll agree with you, it's illegal in Quebec and intensely stupid everywhere. I'll also suggest that my pretending to brake or barely applying the brake is not illegal even in Quebec. Quebec has more strict traffic laws than anywhere else in Canada, you can be fined for failing to keep right even if there are no other cars around.

And as for me, I'm considering getting a dash cam when I buy my next car (which if all goes well will be less than a year from now). I do a lot of city driving and I regularly see the craziest things. Maybe I'll build a YouTube channel around it.
 
Quix said:
I'll also suggest that my pretending to brake or barely applying the brake is not illegal even in Quebec.
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Or anywhere, nor would that likely cause an accident.

One thing I wish they would enforce in Texas though is that the left lane is only for passing, period, even when you're going the speed limit. Most dangerous driving is baited by that when drivers try to make dangerous lane changes to squeeze around the vehicle that refuses to move over, or worse when multiple cars drive in parallel for miles forming moving road block, inducing road rage in a percentage of the population which everyone ultimate suffers for.

Germany used to be a mecca for this, although still not all that bad, sadly its gone downhill with all the foreign drivers in Germany now bringing their driving culture with them. Back in the day at least it was wonderful though, no one passed on the right, no one ever changed lanes without signaling, and everyone immediately moves over when they are done passing, which was one of the reasons Germany had such a low fatality rate per mile driven in spite of having so many twisty roads and very high speed (or unlimited speed) freeways.
 
People that driver substantially slower than the speed limit (in the fast lane) with plenty of safe space ahead should have their license revoked as well!
 
Ducman69 said:
Or anywhere, nor would that likely cause an accident.

One thing I wish they would enforce in Texas though is that the left lane is only for passing, period, even when you're going the speed limit. Most dangerous driving is baited by that when drivers try to make dangerous lane changes to squeeze around the vehicle that refuses to move over, or worse when multiple cars drive in parallel for miles forming moving road block, inducing road rage in a percentage of the population which everyone ultimate suffers for.

Germany used to be a mecca for this, although still not all that bad, sadly its gone downhill with all the foreign drivers in Germany now bringing their driving culture with them. Back in the day at least it was wonderful though, no one passed on the right, no one ever changed lanes without signaling, and everyone immediately moves over when they are done passing, which was one of the reasons Germany had such a low fatality rate per mile driven in spite of having so many twisty roads and very high speed (or unlimited speed) freeways.
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Maybe you should move to Quebec ;). Est-ce vous parle les Français?
 
When I was still in Italy, it was common to turn a two lane road into four lanes. They were terrible drivers.
 
After having the woman in front of me at a stop light put it in reverse and slam into me while trying to do some bizarre lane change after she was stopped, I'd like one of these. She lied through her teeth about the entire incident and though her insurance finally paid most of the damage, I had to fight with them for over a year and still ended up on the hook for 10%, which would have at least paid for a dash cam. People just suck.
 
86 5.0L said:
looks like youre lollygagging in the passing lane, looks like the highway splits and both semis needed to move over. stop blocking the left lane
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The truck that cut me off was doing like 67, I was doing 70. I hit the hammer lane to pass him, and the fucking prime driver didn't know how to read a sign (the split is noted at 2.75 miles north of the split). So either the prime driver had attempted to smash into the driver that cut me off(which I don't think is the case because there was zero CB chatter and no sounding of horns), or the driver that cut me off wanted to be a nice guy for the idiot that doesn't know how to drive.
 
wizzi01 said:
Maybe you shouldn't be driving in the passing lane.
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You are clueless. I couldn't drive through the car ahead of me. I would be going faster if he weren't there.

Besides, even if I were hogging the passing lane, it would have justified that type of dangerous aggressive driving.
 
alxlwson said:
Dumbdumb driver from last week

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I watched that video and it was clear, he did not cut you off. He signaled for at least 5 seconds before he got over and you had no intention of letting him over. Then you see he got over to allow the other truck into the other lane since you where coming up on a area where the highway was splitting.
 
ManofGod said:
I watched that video and it was clear, he did not cut you off. He signaled for at least 5 seconds before he got over and you had no intention of letting him over. Then you see he got over to allow the other truck into the other lane since you where coming up on a area where the highway was splitting.
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You dont know the definition of being cut off do you?
 
keep those dam trucks out of the dam fast lane and traffic is much better.(of course avoiding collisions is acceptable) Granny and bimbos on their fucking cellphones should stay in the fucking slow lanes as well! Im sorry but if your driving below the speed limit in the fast lane (and the lanes very clear) it should be insta fines for each offense!
 
wizdum said:
You were sitting squarely in his blind spot for entirely too long. He gave you more than enough time to move by signalling. You were also attempting to overtake him by going ~2MPH faster.
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Lol.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
You are clueless. I couldn't drive through the car ahead of me. I would be going faster if he weren't there.

Besides, even if I were hogging the passing lane, it would have justified that type of dangerous aggressive driving.
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I am clueless? You are in a passing lane driving, and when someone passes you you call them names. I can see why you don't want people to have guns. You can;t trust yourself. You get mad easily and would more than likely be a danger to society.
 
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