New Mobo/CPU/RAM, System starts up slower?

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TripleAgent77

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I replaced my dying old Core2Duo with a new i5-6500, on a Gigabyte Sniper B7 MOBO, and 32GB of Crucial Ballistix RAM. Also, new case and PSU. The only things I recycled are the two drives, and the GPU. Now, the period from visible Desktop to usable Desktop seems to take forever. I installed the new mobo/chipset drivers, and went through the settings. I can't figure this out. I am sure an SSD would help, but I can't for the life of me think why it would be slower. After the load, performance is way better, as expected. I'm considering Doing a fresh install of Windows, though I REALLY don't want to reinstall all my software (it's a lot, should have made an image :facepalm:). Any ideas?
 
You may want to go into Task Manager and click the Startup tab. Disable everything and reboot. If that helps re-enable items 1 at a time until you find out what's taking a long time.
 
Thanks for all of the suggestions. I should have some time tonight to do these tonight after work.
 
If you used the same windows installation your previous hardware used, chances are the windows is going to be looking for a bunch of previously installed and non existing hardware on bootup. Those cause hang ups and delay your boot.
 
TripleAgent77 said:
Tried xbootmgr, and it's a LOT better now. Thanks again!
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The point of me posting that was to have you figure out what caused it, not to just blindly optimize the boot process (though that may have been the end goal). But hey, whatever floats your boat.
 
Its common sense to just about everyone but has the drive been defragged properly? Even my ancient laptop with super slow spinner drive fully boots win 10 in around a min.
 
Snowknight26 said:
The point of me posting that was to have you figure out what caused it, not to just blindly optimize the boot process (though that may have been the end goal). But hey, whatever floats your boat.
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I rushed, there was a MAJOR storm last night, so I cut it short. I intend to go back and see what I can find.

primetime said:
Its common sense to just about everyone but has the drive been defragged properly? Even my ancient laptop with super slow spinner drive fully boots win 10 in around a min.
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I defrag on a regular basis. It did occur to me.

I'm thinking of splurging on an M.2 SSD drive. Hadn't even heard of these, but my new MB supports it, so I did some homework. They look absurdly fast.

B00nie said:
If you used the same windows installation your previous hardware used, chances are the windows is going to be looking for a bunch of previously installed and non existing hardware on bootup. Those cause hang ups and delay your boot.
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That also occured to me last night. I CCleaned my registry. I think that smoothed things out as well. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
TripleAgent77 said:
I rushed, there was a MAJOR storm last night, so I cut it short. I intend to go back and see what I can find.



I defrag on a regular basis. It did occur to me.

I'm thinking of splurging on an M.2 SSD drive. Hadn't even heard of these, but my new MB supports it, so I did some homework. They look absurdly fast.



That also occured to me last night. I CCleaned my registry. I think that smoothed things out as well. Thanks for the suggestion.
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CClean doesn't do much I'm afraid. You'd have to hunt the remains of old drivers manually. I suggest using Microsoft Bootvis (if it still works) and have it profile your bootup. It records the time spent to different events and that helps you to track the problem.
 
DrLobotomy said:
New board with new architecture and new cpu ALWAYS gets a new re-install of Windows in my book.
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This right here.

If you really want to do it the crappy way, start up in safe mode and uninstall absolutely every single driver through device manager.

Then reboot in regular mode and let it re-detect everything.
 
DrLobotomy said:
New board with new architecture and new cpu ALWAYS gets a new re-install of Windows in my book.
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cyclone3d said:
This right here.

If you really want to do it the crappy way, start up in safe mode and uninstall absolutely every single driver through device manager.

Then reboot in regular mode and let it re-detect everything.
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You're right. I was in a bit of a crunch situation, combined with a bit of laziness. Sooner or later, I'll take a Saturday or day off and do a fresh install. I'm really tempted to go back to Windows 7, so it may be sooner.
 
TripleAgent77 said:
You're right. I was in a bit of a crunch situation, combined with a bit of laziness. Sooner or later, I'll take a Saturday or day off and do a fresh install. I'm really tempted to go back to Windows 7, so it may be sooner.
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Just to forewarn you, If you do go for an M.2 drive you'll probably have to find a driver to let the windows 7 setup see the drive for installation. I don't know if SATA M.2's are different but when I was having issues partitioning mine for Windows 10 using a USB stick, I tried my Windows 7 retail disk to get it started and the drive didn't even show up.

(Don't let my problem put you off though, the partitioning issue was an unrelated problem caused by trying to use a 3g dongle with a MicroSD slot to install windows after my MicroSD USB adapter broke, it went away after using a proper USB stick)

That said, a PCIE M.2 drive is soooo nice. 30-35 seconds from power to desktop including typing the password even with encryption turned on. (Edit: That also includes a UEFI GFX card and fast start enabled so YMMV)
 
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Raxiel said:
Just to forewarn you, If you do go for an M.2 drive you'll probably have to find a driver to let the windows 7 setup see the drive for installation. I don't know if SATA M.2's are different but when I was having issues partitioning mine for Windows 10 using a USB stick, I tried my Windows 7 retail disk to get it started and the drive didn't even show up.

(Don't let my problem put you off though, the partitioning issue was an unrelated problem caused by trying to use a 3g dongle with a MicroSD slot to install windows after my MicroSD USB adapter broke, it went away after using a proper USB stick)

That said, a PCIE M.2 drive is soooo nice. 30-35 seconds from power to desktop including typing the password even with encryption turned on. (Edit: That also includes a UEFI GFX card and fast start enabled so YMMV)
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I took the plunge and picked up a Samsung 950 Pro M.2 SSD. Good lord, this thing is insane! Never going back to mechanical OS drives. I'm tempted to let it be, but I think I'll still do a reinstall soon. Just for cleanliness, and a chance it may get a hair faster. I get usable desktop in under 30 seconds now, from cold boot. I actually look forward to some of my work now that I should be able to churn through it way more conveniently. Fighting the temptation to get a real GPU and install Steam...
 
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