Steam Hardware Survey for July 2016

Zarathustra[H] said:
They still could have used Windows 10 to motivate hardware makers to stop issuing low end 32bit chips. The existing devices would have continued to work on 8.1
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But's that's already the case isn't it? Sides BayTrail Atoms not really sure what else isn't 32 bit new these days. 32 bit may not be entirely gone, but it's pretty irrelevant to modern PC gaming.
 
Terpfen said:
Has any OS release become the statistical leader faster than Win 10 64-bit? Judging by the average specs, there's no reason why developers shouldn't be using DX12 now.
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Statistical leader, no. Recheck the stats. 10 makes up about 45% while 7&8 make up 47%, and now that the free upgrade nagware has ended, uptake of 10 will fall off a cliff. Look beyond Steam stats at the rest of the world and 10 is only around 20% of PCs.

So it makes no financial sense for developers to narrowly target DX12 and ignore more than half the market - potentially tens or hundreds of millions in lost sales. For the next few years, they'll continue to target and design around DX11 - or even better, Vulkan - and best case bolt a few DX12 features on as an afterthought for the boxcover bulletpoints.
 
DPI said:
Statistical leader, no. Recheck the stats. 10 makes up about 45% while 7&8 make up 47%, and now that the free upgrade nagware has ended, uptake of 10 will fall off a cliff.
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Off a cliff? Sure it should slow down a good bit initially but all new hardware is going to be 10 and that's going to accelerate over time. And again, if you look at only x64, and that's where the new AAA games are getting targeted, 10 is ahead of 7&8 combined.

DPI said:
Look beyond Steam stats at the rest of the world and 10 is only around 20% of PCs.
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Which has nothing to with PC gaming really.

DPI said:
So it makes no financial sense for developers to narrowly target DX12 and ignore more than half the market. For the next few years, they'll continue to target and design around DX11 - or even better, Vulkan - and best case bolt a few DX12 features on as an afterthought for the boxcover bulletpoints.
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I don't think that Windows 7/8 users are buying games at the same level as Windows 10 users. The latest greatest folks buy more stuff. As those 7/8 age out and 10 systems get newer, that's only going to accelerate.
 
DPI said:
Statistical leader, no. Recheck the stats. 10 makes up about 45% while 7&8 make up 47%, and now that the free upgrade nagware has ended, uptake of 10 will fall off a cliff. Look beyond Steam stats at the rest of the world and 10 is only around 20% of PCs.

So it makes no financial sense for developers to narrowly target DX12 and ignore more than half the market - potentially tens or hundreds of millions in lost sales. For the next few years, they'll continue to target and design around DX11 - or even better, Vulkan - and best case bolt a few DX12 features on as an afterthought for the boxcover bulletpoints.
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But..but.. Async Compute!
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
...which is relevant to the 12 people who play Ashes of the Singularity.
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Sure. But still when people put down hard earned cash for new hardware they want to get everything out of it. Putting an old OS or one that doesn't have all of the latest and greatest games to do with it, it's just not typical consumer thinking.
 
heatlesssun said:
Sure. But still when people put down hard earned cash for new hardware they want to get everything out of it. Putting an old OS or one that doesn't have all of the latest and greatest games to do with it, it's just not typical consumer thinking.
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I guess my feeling when I bought my 980ti's was these GPU's will spend a year in my rig. By the time they come out, DX12 still likely won't have taken off, so I don't care.

I play today's games with today's GPU's. I'll play tomorrow's games with tomorrow's GPU's.
 
DPI said:
Statistical leader, no. Recheck the stats. 10 makes up about 45% while 7&8 make up 47%, and now that the free upgrade nagware has ended, uptake of 10 will fall off a cliff. Look beyond Steam stats at the rest of the world and 10 is only around 20% of PCs.

So it makes no financial sense for developers to narrowly target DX12 and ignore more than half the market - potentially tens or hundreds of millions in lost sales. For the next few years, they'll continue to target and design around DX11 - or even better, Vulkan - and best case bolt a few DX12 features on as an afterthought for the boxcover bulletpoints.
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It's like there are keywords to summon you from some abyss.
 
Beaflag VonRathburg said:
I have a main X99 / 290x desktop that I play games on, but I have found that my HP ZBook 15 with a miniscule k610m (mobile workstation GPU) can still play quite a few games on Steam.
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I've got a Dell ultrabook style laptop I use while traveling. If you're willing to run at 720p, you can play quite a few titles. Or 1080p with a lot of options set to low. I'm sure my actions are pulling down those Steam survey numbers!
 
I can't believe there are twice as many Nvidia Geforce 6600 cards being used over Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Ti cards.
 
PersonalJ said:
I can't believe there are twice as many Nvidia Geforce 6600 cards being used over Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Ti cards.
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What I can't believe is that there are almost as many 980Ti as there are 980.
 
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