NVIDIA Announces The New Titan X

Aireoth said:
There is a greater reality here that all of us will need to accept. The world has finite resources, and a booming human population, we all will have to deal with having less and less. This is reality, and the only way to change it is to reduce the population, or enslave a larger portion of it.
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And we have jumped the shark
 
I remember lurking on another forum somewhere a while back where some guy made a customer cooler and backplate for his Titan. I wonder if he is going to do the same thing for this one. Also not sure if he ever finished.
 
mgulbran said:
Can someone please explain to me why people logon to post this stuff? Someone somewhere did something I'm not aware of. True story!
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Because sometimes others seen it too and have a better memory than I. It took some searching, but I found it..
 
Maybe this has already been discussed several times in the thread but I didn't come across it. To me the $1200 is quite a lot but becomes approachable when you consider that in order to surpass it you are going to need to buy at least two 1070's which comes out past the $1000 threshold by themselves and then it's SLI vs single card even if the 1070's are quicker combined when properly supported.

I have two 290x's Crossfire's right now but kind of hate it. It could just be amds drivers that have soured me on multi-gpu, but I'm strongly considering trying to figure out a way to spend the $1200 to finally have a single card 4k solution.

Additionally, it seems like it's been a while since game graphics have made a sizable leap in the horsepower needed to run them so I would anticipate a Titan x (p) being able to keep above that magical 4k 60 Hz number for quite sometime.
 
Lmah2x said:
It's kind of interesting that it will only be available from Nvidia.com. It makes me think that either Nvidia is trying to really push their store. Or they just didn't have enough demand for Titan's in the past. I think the first one though.
I purchased my Titan X's from Nvidia's store last year but this year this is the only place you can actually get them. I'm not 100% certain with this, but EVGA Jacob did say "1. The new TITAN X will only be NVIDIA only and only available from NVIDIA.com."

Jen-Hsun introduces the new NVIDIA TITANX [Pascal] - EVGA Forums

Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in this thread.
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NVidia get quite a few advantages from selling direct only.
To start...

They get control of prices without breaking any laws. They can set a minimum price without challenge which boosts overall profit (assuming they can sell the inventory) and immediate launch sales improve.
They massively increase profit by removing the middle man.

They could piss off the retailers and lose a bit of favour but as long as they offer enough of the pie it shouldnt be a big issue.
 
I also think having the halo product under their direct brand makes their lower cards under their brand more attractive. For years now, both AMD and nVidia in house cards haven't been as attractive as the third party partners cards due to better coolers and over clocking.

They just need to make sure they don't make any mistakes like the 290's reference cooler designs.
 
Lmah2x said:
It's kind of interesting that it will only be available from Nvidia.com. It makes me think that either Nvidia is trying to really push their store. Or they just didn't have enough demand for Titan's in the past. I think the first one though.
I purchased my Titan X's from Nvidia's store last year but this year this is the only place you can actually get them. I'm not 100% certain with this, but EVGA Jacob did say "1. The new TITAN X will only be NVIDIA only and only available from NVIDIA.com."

Jen-Hsun introduces the new NVIDIA TITANX [Pascal] - EVGA Forums

Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in this thread.
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That actually becomes more of a deal breaker for me. We'll see how the reviews come out. I really like cards with hybrid coolers (quiet fans and low temperatures). I really wanted to get a Titan Hybrid. We'll see if they open the market later on. Otherwise I might get a Hybrid 1080 later in the year instead.
 
Yeah I'd rather deal with EVGA rma than NV rma, if my card took a bad turn. I'm familiar with the EVGA system.
 
kbrickley said:
That actually becomes more of a deal breaker for me. We'll see how the reviews come out. I really like cards with hybrid coolers (quiet fans and low temperatures). I really wanted to get a Titan Hybrid. We'll see if they open the market later on. Otherwise I might get a Hybrid 1080 later in the year instead.
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I'm going to try reaching out to NZXT to see if they know if the G10 bracket will work with Pitan X. They say it works with the 1080, so could mean a good chance it will work on Pitan X.
 
rezerekted said:
Bullshit, Jeep are not reliable vehicles, like I said go do the research. And the Imprezza is about the same price as a Mazda3, which is about the best bang for buck car you can buy.

The problem with video cards is that you need to buy a new Ferrari almost every year, they don't last a life time like a Ferrari car so your analogy is bullshit too.
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LOL. You're the one that needs to do your research. The 4.0 I6 is known as one of the most bulletproof reliable engines ever produced and if you're going to lump all Jeeps together you should think of all of the Subaru engines with the multitudes of headgasket and piston ring failures.

And I'm using a GTX670 in my main PC and a GTX280 in the other so tell me about how you need to buy a new video card every year......
 
Lmah2x said:
It's kind of interesting that it will only be available from Nvidia.com. It makes me think that either Nvidia is trying to really push their store. Or they just didn't have enough demand for Titan's in the past. I think the first one though.
I purchased my Titan X's from Nvidia's store last year but this year this is the only place you can actually get them. I'm not 100% certain with this, but EVGA Jacob did say "1. The new TITAN X will only be NVIDIA only and only available from NVIDIA.com."

Jen-Hsun introduces the new NVIDIA TITANX [Pascal] - EVGA Forums

Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in this thread.
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What I wonder is if this will impact the availability of water blocks and other accessories. I get the impression that the large water block manufacturers, like EK and Alphacool, etc, work closely with the board partners to get all of the dimensions and samples they need in order to design a good fitting block.

I'd imagine that if this is Nvidia only, they may have to buy a board retail just to design a block, and that this might delay it.
 
x3sphere said:
When will reviews hit? Haven't seen any reviewers say they have the card yet.
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It's unclear if any reviewers will be receiving a card.

Nvidia isn't primarily targeting the new Titan X at gamers. Notice how they dropped the Geforce from it. It's no longer a Geforce GTX Titan X. It's just an Nvidia Titan X. It's targeted at Deep Learning applications (but it will also be a high end gaming card).

Because of this, it is unclear if they will be providing any gaming sites with review samples at all. If we get reviews it may be from sites who buy the card at retail, if they are able to get one.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
What I wonder is if this will impact the availability of water blocks and other accessories. I get the impression that the large water block manufacturers, like EK and Alphacool, etc, work closely with the board partners to get all of the dimensions and samples they need in order to design a good fitting block.

I'd imagine that if this is Nvidia only, they may have to buy a board retail just to design a block, and that this might delay it.
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The current Titan X is only one reference design and water blocks have never been an issue. If anything, the water block manufacturers only have one design to produce as opposed to a different layout for each individual card. So really, no different than the current Titan X scenario.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
What I wonder is if this will impact the availability of water blocks and other accessories. I get the impression that the large water block manufacturers, like EK and Alphacool, etc, work closely with the board partners to get all of the dimensions and samples they need in order to design a good fitting block.

I'd imagine that if this is Nvidia only, they may have to buy a board retail just to design a block, and that this might delay it.
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I don't think this will effect EK making a water block for it. But I have my doubts that EVGA will release an ACX cooler for it, I find it very unlikely.
 
Lmah2x said:
I don't think this will effect EK making a water block for it. But I have my doubts that EVGA will release an ACX cooler for it, I find it very unlikely.
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Well, yeah. They are not in the business of making aftermarket coolers.

Maybe someone like Arctic Cooling will?

Otherwise we are likely talking Corsair HG10 brackets, water blocks for custom loops or custom hacks.

EK will likely make a block, but I'm guessing it will take a bit, as they may have to buy a card retail in order to use it to develop their block, whereas with many of the board partners, o feel like they cooperate with them pre-launch.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
EK will likely make a block, but I'm guessing it will take a bit, as they may have to buy a card retail in order to use it to develop their block, whereas with many of the board partners, o feel like they cooperate with them pre-launch.
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Also, with this being said, I wonder how many blocks they will ahve to sell to reach breakeven on a $1200 card plus development costs.

As the GPU prices go up, and the volume of exclusive top end video cards go down (so, fewer potential customers), I wonder if at some point it is no longer worth it for them.

There arent THAT many people with custom loops, after all.
 
So since this is not a Geforce GTX card like its predecessors but just a "Nvidia Titan X" will it use Geforce drivers or Quadro or maybe able to use either like AMD's Radeon Pro Duo can run with both gaming and professional drivers?
 
Instead of getting 2 titans this time, I think im just going to get 2 1080..
 
JCrimson said:
Instead of getting 2 titans this time, I think im just going to get 2 1080..
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I'm going from two 980ti's to one new Titan.

My thoughts on SLI (and Crossfire)? Never again. I've never had so many annoying problems as when I've used multi-GPU.

When I first got my 30" 2560x1600 screen I had the problem that no single GPU was fast enough, so I went with dual Radeon HD6970's and the experience was miserable.

Made the same mistake when I went 4k. Did so too soon, and no single GPU was fast enough. Decided to try SLI this time as I heard it was better than Crossfire. It was better, but it was still terrible.

A single new Titan may still not be fast enough for me, but with custom water and a healthy overclock, I'm hoping it will be close.

At least I won't have to deal with SLI anymore...
 
JCrimson said:
Instead of getting 2 titans this time, I think im just going to get 2 1080..
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SLI has worse support than it did in the past, I think I only played 1-2 AAA games in the last year that had support for it. I'm going from 2 Titan X (2015) to 1 Titan X (2016).. I'll take the performance hit in those 1-2 games any day to get more performance in the rest.
 
Lmah2x said:
SLI has worse support than it did in the past, I think I only played 1-2 AAA games in the last year that had support for it. I'm going from 2 Titan X (2015) to 1 Titan X (2016).. I'll take the performance hit in those 1-2 games any day to get more performance in the rest.
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Weird. my experience was just the opposite. I found many games ran great with SLi, like overwatch.
 
I expect this card if it is around 30-35% faster to give a similar experience to two 1080s when overclocked. Also at the same frame rates, the frame times are always worse on multi GPU. 60 FPS often doesn't feel like 60 if you are just making it, with an mGPU setup. They've improved the frame pacing a lot over the years, but it's still nowhere near single GPU smoothness.

and yeah a bunch of games I've played this year had no SLI support. Rise of the Tomb Raider, Just Cause 3, Rainbow Six: Siege to name a few. Some games even suffer from negative scaling and it's annoying having to disable/reenable SLI. Fair play to those that have no issues, but I've went through like 3 different SLI setups, so I've given the tech more than enough of a chance.
 
Yeah - it's a tough call. Two cards or no. The main game that I play is ARK and it doesn't support SLI...but then again - Battlefield 1 is coming and it will surely support SLI very well.
 
If we reduce this to a question of shader output (which is a pretty good option as far as simplifications go) and consider two 1080s with 75% scaling and a Pitan X all at 2GHz then the SLI system will perform at 1.75x a single 1080, and a Pitan will perform 1.4x of a single 1080. A single Pitan is a much better option imo
 
Oh yeah, I wasn't comparing 2x1080 to 1xPITAN. I already have 2x1080. The debate for me, personally, is to continue on with SLI or not.

I would not recommend 1080 SLI over a single PITAN.
 
x3sphere said:
I expect this card if it is around 30-35% faster to give a similar experience to two 1080s when overclocked. Also at the same frame rates, the frame times are always worse on multi GPU. 60 FPS often doesn't feel like 60 if you are just making it, with an mGPU setup. They've improved the frame pacing a lot over the years, but it's still nowhere near single GPU smoothness...
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Yeah this was covered by one of the [H] crew a few weeks back, I think Dan but wouldnt bet my life on it.
He stated that an extra 20% or so extra fps was required to make dual card smooth enough to be worth using.
After the calculations are done to achieve 60fps min, remember to add another 20%+ to make the minimum at least 72fps.

I think you are close to the mark for the experience achieved.
 
Nenu said:
Yeah this was covered by one of the [H] crew a few weeks back, I think Dan but wouldnt bet my life on it.
He stated that an extra 20% or so extra fps was required to make dual card smooth enough to be worth using.
After the calculations are done to achieve 60fps min, remember to add another 20%+ to make the minimum at least 72fps.

I think you are close to the mark for the experience achieved.
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Sounds about right, although this varies greatly from setup to setup and game to game. I remember when the whole micro-stuttering fiasco came to light it could be as bad as 60fps on multi-GPU = 30 fps on single-GPU in some instances.
 
JCrimson said:
Weird. my experience was just the opposite. I found many games ran great with SLi, like overwatch.
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Outside of Tomb Raider I didn't notice any issues the past 2 years with my SLI 980's and Titans X's

Gonna stay with my 1080's SLI this round as it more than enough for 4k @60 & 21:9 100hz.


I am gonna assume 2x1080's HAS to beat a single Titan X?(when supported properly)
 
This card is so tempting. I mean, I don't have $1200 right now, but I will in a few months... when I will have a county tax bill in October that is gonna be just as much as this card. I have home improvements that need to be done, am getting married, and I have been meaning to buy a lathe so I can get started on a new hobby that is more fulfilling for me (and gets me off my ass) and potentially make me money down the road... but this card, man... fuck you, Nvidia. Trying to stray me from what's important in my life. (s)Maybe that's why I went AMD(/s).
 
Guys stop with calling this cards Pitan and Mitan sounds so retard to the point its funny, at least call it Titan XP sound much better or just plain Titan X 2016 or Titan Pascal.

Cant read this thread every time i see Mitan or Pitan its puke like...
Some went so far putting Mitan in there signature ROFL
 
gamingarena23 said:
Guys stop with calling this cards Pitan and Mitan sounds so retard to the point its funny, at least call it Titan XP sound much better or just plain Titan X 2016 or Titan Pascal.

Cant read this thread every time i see Mitan or Pitan its puke like...
Some went so far putting Mitan in there signature ROFL
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How about Titan :p and Titan :dead:.
 
gamingarena23 said:
Guys stop with calling this cards Pitan and Mitan sounds so retard to the point its funny, at least call it Titan XP sound much better or just plain Titan X 2016 or Titan Pascal.

Cant read this thread every time i see Mitan or Pitan its puke like...
Some went so far putting Mitan in there signature ROFL
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I don't know. I think it is simpler and more effective at providing clarity without having to type/read longer more complex things.

Besides, XP sounds like Windows to me.

Kitan/Mitan/Pitan are the simplest IMHO but typing out Kepler Titan, Maxwell Titan and Pascal Titan works too.

Of course there are three different Kepler titans, which complicates things.

Maybe going by the year is best after all.

Original Titan = 2013 Titan
Titan Black = 2014 Titan
Titan Z = 2014 dual Titan?
2015 Titan X = 2015 Titan
2016 Titan X = 2016 Titan


Maybe?

A standard uniform way of referring to these without having to explain what you mean every time would be nice. I'm not too beholden to Nvidia marketing names, especially when they are stupid and reuse names.
 
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