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So this is how to understand the difference between the titan series and the performance series.
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Basically electric travels in a sine wave. The higher the peak the lower the trough the more energy is used. The faster
the frequency the closer the peaks are to each other. When using a multimeter you have to tune it to get the sine wave
to fit in the display and artificially change the scale to be able to understand the depth and shape of the waveform.
mean electricity tends to look like a flat line because it pulses so fast and the depth on most current is not very high
at 1:1 scale. House hold electric in the US is 50 hertz or fifty pulses per second meaning every second there is fifty pulses of a sine wave along one milimeter.

In a videocard that distance is measured in nanometers of the width of piece of paper and the bandwidth is how wide the electrical path is how wide since each trace at this point is based on a mkg level, pascal is 16nm so the smallest element is 16nanometers wide. So the path between the gpu and the memory bank is traces 16nm wide cut next to each other every other space. Then the odd spaces between are cut away. This gives a path that when the eletric sprials around the outside of the metal it is long enough to hold enough points that deviate up or down based on ionic charge, along the curve that is so many bits wide. The actual spiral is a jagged line much like an aliased line. If the bits are positive they are down off the curve and if they are negative they are up off the curve.

Think of it as a foot ball spiral that gets pushed back and forth by the wind. It lands in roughly the same place each time but the little pushes that are not really visible unless you are close to it and have something to show perspective like two people throwing spirals and filming from above the spiral really hard to see.

The processor simply processes the charge as it goes through the end gate one by one. In the the 1080 the processor can get data buckets so to speak every sec in lumps of 320 GB. The new Titan X gets buckets of 480 GB. The the dsp which is what a processor is, performs math, this is the current being supplied. The juice so to speak is the data being moved backward and forward. It ends up in your room as light. Because it also is heat and the closer the traces are the more heat is lost as bad data the cores in the titan lose more data so the titan x completes 14,000,000 cycles per second.

That 480 and 320 is 480,000,000,000 and 320,000,000,000 bits of deviation on the those sine waves. You can then figure out that the math takes longer but if the data slows down too much no data is processed while is waiting for data.
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Hi, I just went through all the trouble of registering an account so I could post a reply to your post:

Please get out of your Mom's basement and read some real book. Your post does not make any sense whatsoever. I got so confused reading it that I soon lied down to have some sleep: thank you for curing my insomnia.
 
When you play along with a 640GB sine wave, you must interpolate the data bus with more watts.
You risk metallic aliasing of the nanometer paths if the dielectric constant isnt a wide enough spiral, so go careful.
But of course if you fill buckets with nanobits before rendering, you can artificially scale the waveforms and not suffer DSP anti processing.

I'd create a picture but I cant match your talent.
Thats some kind of special.
 
>>Basically electric travels in a sine wave.

Nope. (and I presume you mean "electricity" ?)

A sine wave is a specific wave form and is not how electricity travels.
What about DC? There is no waveform or frequency on the 12vdc in your computer.

>>When using a multimeter you have to tune it to get the sine wave

Nope. Multimeters are not used to look at wave forms. Try an oscilloscope.

>>House hold electric in the US is 50 hertz or fifty pulses per second

Nope. 60 hertz is the US standard for household electric service.
Europe is 50 hertz.

>>The processor simply processes the charge as it goes through the end gate one by one.

Uhh...... Nope.


Thanks for trying to educate us though. (y)


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I always forget the 60/50 grin. oscilloscope looks like a grid and has a wave form on it, but is an oscillating view of the current. multi meter tells you how far the trough and crest is. ums or use the greek letter. your ac is alternateing current that pulses which is not a sine wave it period or duration between polarity, direct current is two seperate lines that one goes up one goes back.

Clearly your couch scientists but go pick up a text book the electriciaty travels around the outside of surface area from ainoton to canto and back. or vice verse it is the same chemical reaction. eletric is stored in a chemical state then there is a reaction where excessive eltrons are drawn to areas with less eltrons. They sprila because the orbits are strenched like a slinkly. that is the sprila or sine wave. The rest you can find someone else to bother teaching you through they will charge you for it.
 
Nope. 60 hertz is the US standard for household electric service.

>>Basically electric travels in a sine wave.

Nope. (and I presume you mean "electricity" ?)

A sine wave is a specific wave form and is not how electricity travels.
What about DC? There is no waveform or frequency on the 12vdc in your computer.

>>When using a multimeter you have to tune it to get the sine wave

Nope. Multimeters are not used to look at wave forms. Try an oscilloscope.

>>House hold electric in the US is 50 hertz or fifty pulses per second

Nope. 60 hertz is the US standard for household electric service.
Europe is 50 hertz.

>>The processor simply processes the charge as it goes through the end gate one by one.

Uhh...... Nope.


Thanks for trying to educate us though. (y)


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Dude.. WTF, you actually read that post??
 
I always forget the 60/50 grin. oscilloscope looks like a grid and has a wave form on it, but is an oscillating view of the current. multi meter tells you how far the trough and crest is. ums or use the greek letter. your ac is alternateing current that pulses which is not a sine wave it period or duration between polarity, direct current is two seperate lines that one goes up one goes back.

Clearly your couch scientists but go pick up a text book the electriciaty travels around the outside of surface area from ainoton to canto and back. or vice verse it is the same chemical reaction. eletric is stored in a chemical state then there is a reaction where excessive eltrons are drawn to areas with less eltrons. They sprila because the orbits are strenched like a slinkly. that is the sprila or sine wave. The rest you can find someone else to bother teaching you through they will charge you for it.

When your grinning Hertz, you create Ums, this can make your scientists alternateing waves crest.
If your electriciaty is on the outside, vice is involved until it becomes eletric.
Versa, the slinkly strenched orbits tainted by periodic sprila teach you by couch flavour books.
Meter your ainoton state multi letters for best chemical effect.
Watch for Eltrons, modern Elvis is Greek among elite botherers.
 
I always forget the 60/50 grin. oscilloscope looks like a grid and has a wave form on it, but is an oscillating view of the current. multi meter tells you how far the trough and crest is. ums or use the greek letter. your ac is alternateing current that pulses which is not a sine wave it period or duration between polarity, direct current is two seperate lines that one goes up one goes back.

Unless you're looking at DC on an oscope--in that case it's a flat line above or below 0VDC reference (typically ground, but could be an input voltage from another component, especially in digital electronics).

I know, I worked on the stuff (though I dealt more with RF than digital signals).

Also, multimeters can read voltage (V, mV, current (A, mA), resistance (ohms), and maybe frequency (I usually used other instruments for anything other than voltage and resistance, so I'm not too familiar with the other settings).
 
When your grinning Hertz, you create Ums, this can make your scientists alternateing waves crest.
If your electriciaty is on the outside, vice is involved until it becomes eletric.
Versa, the slinkly strenched orbits tainted by periodic sprila teach you by couch flavour books.
Meter your ainoton state multi letters for best chemical effect.
Watch for Eltrons, modern Elvis is Greek among elite botherers.

lol... wtf :)
 
>House hold electric in the US is 50 hertz or fifty pulses per second meaning every second there is fifty pulses of a sine wave along one milimeter.

No.
 
The term "bit bucket" has been a valid computer term for a long time, really just slang for lost data.
But this dude thinks there is a whole "bucket brigade" going on in there some place.

It looks like he has studied electronics, but maybe from one of those "Electronics for Dummies"
books. He's leaning too heavily on analogies without really understanding the concepts.

Now he's saying, "your ac is alternateing current that pulses which is not a sine wave".

Nope. AC household electricity (in the US) is indeed a sine wave at a 60 hertz frequency
and at 120vac (measured peak to peak).

If you were to put a scope on different signals on a video card, you would not see any wave forms
that look like sine waves. They would all be square waves and complex wave forms.

I'm really not sure what the AC household voltage has to do with comparing video cards anyway.
His original tutorial is all over the place logically and is factually inaccurate.

To put it politely, he's getting confused on a lot of the concepts he's addressing.

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I always forget the 60/50 grin. oscilloscope looks like a grid and has a wave form on it, but is an oscillating view of the current. multi meter tells you how far the trough and crest is. ums or use the greek letter. your ac is alternateing current that pulses which is not a sine wave it period or duration between polarity, direct current is two seperate lines that one goes up one goes back.

Clearly your couch scientists but go pick up a text book the electriciaty travels around the outside of surface area from ainoton to canto and back. or vice verse it is the same chemical reaction. eletric is stored in a chemical state then there is a reaction where excessive eltrons are drawn to areas with less eltrons. They sprila because the orbits are strenched like a slinkly. that is the sprila or sine wave. The rest you can find someone else to bother teaching you through they will charge you for it.

>>electriciaty travels around the outside of surface area from ainoton to canto and back.


Ok, I think I'm finally starting to understand all of this.... I Googled your "ainoton to canto" term and the closest Google has to that
term is "xeno-canto" which relates to Indian peafowl birds, which of course must be what you are speaking of.

So there are Indian peafowl birds (ainoton to canto) who pick up the bits and put them in the buckets in sine wave spiral patterns?

If you spend more money on the Titan series, then you get more birds moving more bits to the buckets?
Do you get more birds, or just bigger birds with bigger beaks who can move more bits to the buckets?

Please draw us a diagram of the birds moving the bits to the buckets so we can understand.



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Now that I read it again, it actually sounds more like broken Latin.
 
What the shit, buckets can go to 480GB now? Fuck balls, that shifts my whole paradigm. I was operating under the assumption that buckets only went to 11.

Well has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 
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