NVIDIA Announces The New Titan X

polonyc2 said:
Titans are never worth it...there's always another card released shortly afterwards that can give you almost as much power for much less cost
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Why don't we stop trying to decide what the fuck is worth it for everyone else on a forum where we come to buy the MOST EXPENSIVE SHIT ANYWAY.
 
Admiral Equinox said:
Why don't we stop trying to decide what the fuck is worth it for everyone else on a forum where we come to buy the MOST EXPENSIVE SHIT ANYWAY.
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I'll say it again, Titans are never worth it...most Titan owners get buyers remorse when they see the next card for half the price with 70%+ of the performance
 
Rvenger said:
We don't know exactly how this will react at 4k. I always thiught HBM2 would take 4k as a single solution. GDDR5x is basically a stop gap solution and is marginally faster than GDDR5 imo.
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Depends how fast it is ? GDDR5 caps out at 8GT/s, G5X will go up to 14GT/s. Pitan uses 10GT/s, if you overclock it just 10% you'll get theoretical bandwidth (not accounting for compression) above what the Fury X offered
 
Ieldra said:
Depends how fast it is ? GDDR5 caps out at 8GT/s, G5X will go up to 14GT/s. Pitan uses 10GT/s, if you overclock it just 10% you'll get theoretical bandwidth (not accounting for compression) above what the Fury X offered
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Yeah I did some testing on Pascal and leldra is correct. I OC'd about 10% and got 4% gain on GP104. As leldra noted elsewhere GP102 has more bandwidth per core so it's even less constrained.

Besides... It's nVidia. You can bet they did their homework to figure out where the memory has diminishing returns.
 
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Dayaks said:
Yeah I did some testing on Pascal and leldra is correct. I OC'd 19% and got 4% gain on GP104. As leldra noted elsewhere GP102 has more bandwidth per core so it's even less constrained.

Besides... It's nVidia. You can bet they did their homework to figure out where the memory has diminishing returns.
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6.5Ghz memory:
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Expensive card, but what other choice is there if you want the fastest 1440p single gpu? I'm going to push the monitor in my sig and I just refuse to do mGPU anymore. I drew the line with my Mitan X SLI. Can't wait to see how this card games for me @144HZ, 1440p.
 
DooKey said:
Expensive card, but what other choice is there if you want the fastest 1440p single gpu? I'm going to push the monitor in my sig and I just refuse to do mGPU anymore. I drew the line with my Mitan X SLI. Can't wait to see how this card games for me @144HZ, 1440p.
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The 1080 does 1440 no problem
 
DooKey said:
Expensive card, but what other choice is there if you want the fastest 1440p single gpu? I'm going to push the monitor in my sig and I just refuse to do mGPU anymore. I drew the line with my Mitan X SLI. Can't wait to see how this card games for me @144HZ, 1440p.
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Yea as of now I'm done with SLI. Far too many games I played in the last year didn't have proper SLI support so half the time I wasn't even using it anyways. Been debating SLI the last few days since this announcement and have decided against it.
 
I don't blame you, SLI is terrible. If I were planning to spend $1200 on a new GPU, I'd go for the new Titan X versus 2x GTX 1080s. Even when it works and scales well, if the frame pacing is bad, then the single GPU ends up feeling better despite putting up lower frame rates.
 
Admiral Equinox said:
Why don't we stop trying to decide what the fuck is worth it for everyone else on a forum where we come to buy the MOST EXPENSIVE SHIT ANYWAY.
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Thats not entirely the whole point of [H] but I also agree that we should stop trying to say if its worth it. I mean in passing ok fine but berating others over it is where it gets so old.
So I guess yeah I agree with you haha.

Also sign me up for 3 x Nvidia Pitan Xs please. 1 for the Ncase and 2 for the Main Tower, since its more of a bench machine lately.
 
Odellus said:
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lower framerate is lower framerate, gsync or not.
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Gsync helps with inconsistent frame rates being unoticable between 60-144, so when it drops you are less likely to notice it. Variable refresh rate is great, thus probably the one time I'll bash nvidia for not taking a universal standard.
 
Presbytier said:
Gsync helps with inconsistent frame rates being unoticable between 60-144, so when it drops you are less likely to notice it. Variable refresh rate is great, thus probably the one time I'll bash nvidia for not taking a universal standard.
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G sync is amazing so far in my use but i wish nvidia would opt for an open standard. Buying my monitor was a tough choice. I wanted the best i could get for my setup but i wish it had compatibility with AMD free sync down the line in case i went AMD again.
 
polonyc2 said:
I'll say it again, Titans are never worth it...most Titan owners get buyers remorse when they see the next card for half the price with 70%+ of the performance
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I mean that will always happen. It's just the way things go.
 
polonyc2 said:
I'll say it again, Titans are never worth it...most Titan owners get buyers remorse when they see the next card for half the price with 70%+ of the performance
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I think you're confusing x80 Ti owners with TITAN owners...
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
So enough with the crying. No one owes you a GPU at any particular price. The whole reason GPU's exist is to make the GPU manufacturers shareholders as much money as possible, and it is not only their job, but their legal responsibility to do so.
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In case you haven't noticed, espousing capitalist greed mantra these days just makes people angry. I bet you would even defend sending all the jobs overseas to take advantage of poor people too.
 
heatlesssun said:
I've hear the phrase "using our wallets" on this forum and other places virtually every day. It's one thing to not buy a product because it's not good, it's another when it's the best at what it is and there's no alternative. All you're telling people is to not buy the best because you think it's too expensive. Ok, got that. Ok, it's too expensive. Now what? By cheaper and much slower cards? Ok, got that. Vote your wallet and buy a 480 instead of the new Titan X.

Except no one that has $1200 dollars to spend on a GPU is going to by a 480. And that's the problem with what you're saying.
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I can afford to buy one no problem but some of us have principles. Just like I don't need Win10 I don't need a new GPU either. I will just make sure any game I buy runs well on my GTX780.
 
polonyc2 said:
I'll say it again, Titans are never worth it...most Titan owners get buyers remorse when they see the next card for half the price with 70%+ of the performance
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My original 2013 Titan was a fantastic buy. I got it because I was sick of Crossfire and no other single GPU fast enough for my 2560x1600 screen. It lasted me longer than any other GPU I've ever owned. Only took it out if my main rig in August last year. I had a little buyers remorse right after picking it up, but not for very long.

It's still running in my stepsons rig, and doing a damned fine job at 1080p even in modern titles.
 
i might have to skip this time around...i'm not spending $1200 on gpu w/o good warranty
 
rezerekted said:
I can afford to buy one no problem but some of us have principles. Just like I don't need Win10 I don't need a new GPU either. I will just make sure any game I buy runs well on my GTX780.
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What the fuck do your principles mean in relation to running the latest and greatest games at maximum settings, resolution and performance? And why would those principles mean anything to anyone else that doesn't care about these things? I have three 1080P 3D monitors that I bought 6 years ago, when Windows 7 was awesome and a single GTX 780 cannot run new games at the Surround resolution on these monitors in any way shape or form. Who the fuck cares about a GTX 780 in 2016? I'm not trying to be mean or insulting it's just that your point is pointless in a thread about the latest and greatest GPU.

If you're not going to buy a Titan X, why the fuck should I care? It's not a problem that you don't, but you seem to like to make a problem of people liking things you don't.
 
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I am a huge free market guy but I want to ask a philosophical question. At what price, if any, would people say the new Titan was a foolish buy for someone using it only for gaming?
 
rinaldo00 said:
I am a huge free market guy but I want to ask a philosophical question. At what price, if any, would people say the new Titan was a foolish buy for someone using it only for gaming?
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At what point does a new car cost if it's only for transportation? Or a new house if it's only for decent place to live? Or new anything if it's only for what it is?
 
I think a lot of people still do not understand what the TITAN is. It *is* ridiculous. It *is* absolute top end. Why discuss pricing? Is it worth it or not to you?

If not - NVIDIA (as well as AMD) have many offerings down the line at lower price points.

Next do we bring up Quadro and FirePro pricing?

It just gets tiresome. xx80 card gets release - "paper launch", "mid-range chip", etc. TITAN gets launched - "price is insane". The same complaints and excuses.

Go buy integrated graphics and enjoy Minecraft. Or buy a slightly better GPU and play at 1080p. TITAN is for those that want the very, very best in extreme configurations.
 
Zarathustra[H] said:
At the price where they don't think it's worth it. :p
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Why is this so hard to get for some? nVidia is making technology that is the best at what it does and no one else is competing currently. The only way to see lower prices is with more competition with products of similar capabilities. It's kind of the same thing with Windows 10, I wasn't going there but someone else did so I did.

Make something better and all the world will be there. Don't make something half-ass you think is better.
 
haste. said:
And don't get me wrong the 970's were by far the best sli experience I have had - there were still a few things that irked me (ex: playing bf and thinking I had lag but it was massive momentary frame drops when monitored).
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I was noticing the massive framedrops, till I realized that it was foxnews.com and nytimes.com refreshing in Chrome tabs in the background :D
 
sk3tch said:
It just gets tiresome. xx80 card gets release - "paper launch", "mid-range chip", etc. TITAN gets launched - "price is insane". The same complaints and excuses.
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It's fair to say that nVidia is increasing prices. The reason is obvious, they don't have any competition. Same can be said of Intel at the high end. My problem is that those that seem to be riding a high horse are saying stuff like "I will just make sure any game I buy runs well on my GTX780." What the fuck does that even mean? What settings, resolution and framerate does someone with the morals of a god game at? So from now on, I MUST but games that conform to this persons judgment as running well on a GTX780? That if I buy game that doesn't run well on a GTX 780 that I've broken his rules as some false god? What the fuck is that nonsense?

And what the fuck did all of that bullshit have to do with Windows 10? Did NVidia force an upgrade of his GTX 780 to a Pascal Titan X? Is he complaining about nVidia a near worthless GPU to top line version worth $1200. What the fuck?
 
rinaldo00 said:
I am a huge free market guy but I want to ask a philosophical question. At what price, if any, would people say the new Titan was a foolish buy for someone using it only for gaming?
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Titan is for the people in a very small niche that want the absolute best, can afford it, don't care about value, and have a lot of disposable income. For some people, like me for instance, an enthusiast that computer building and gaming has been a 30 year hobby, has a lot of disposable income at this point in my life, not a lot of bills, married with no kids and the wife also pays half the bills, so who the fuck cares? If I drop $1200 on a Titan or $1300 on a pair of SLI 1080s, and do the same thing every couple years, what's it to me? Absolutely nothing. It's not like I'm running around blowing money on everything I see. I pick and choose what I spend my money on, and this is one of those things.

If that's soul crushing to you, you're either not at the same point in your life as me, or have other priorities (kids/school/travel/etc), or other things in life that take priority. Me, I enjoy gaming. It takes my mind off a stressful, but well paying job, that I've worked my ass off to get to where I am. I spend 40-50 hours a week doing IT and probably another 20-30 on the computer at home gaming or surfing. If $1200 makes my life that much better, or is fun for me, and I know I'm going to get a lot of use out of it. I'll do it. And I won't be sad for those who can't. Because I couldn't for a long, long time, but now I can.
 
Astral Abyss said:
Titan is for the people in a very small niche that want the absolute best, can afford it, don't care about value, and have a lot of disposable income. For some people, like me for instance, an enthusiast that computer building and gaming has been a 30 year hobby, has a lot of disposable income at this point in my life, not a lot of bills, married with no kids and the wife also pays half the bills, so who the fuck cares? If I drop $1200 on a Titan or $1300 on a pair of SLI 1080s, and do the same thing every couple years, what's it to me? Absolutely nothing. It's not like I'm running around blowing money on everything I see. I pick and choose what I spend my money on, and this is one of those things.

If that's soul crushing to you, you're either not at the same point in your life as me, or have other priorities (kids/school/travel/etc), or other things in life that take priority. Me, I enjoy gaming. It takes my mind off a stressful, but well paying job, that I've worked my ass off to get to where I am. I spend 40-50 hours a week doing IT and probably another 20-30 on the computer at home gaming or surfing. If $1200 makes my life that much better, or is fun for me, and I know I'm going to get a lot of use out of it. I'll do it. And I won't be sad for those who can't. Because I couldn't for a long, long time, but now I can.
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It isn't soul crushing to me at all, I have a ton of disposable income. I am asking a hypothetical question. Are people really claiming there are no foolish buys in history just because someone was willing to buy it?
 
rinaldo00 said:
Right, so give me some numbers.
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How in the world does one "give" numbers for the values of a billion others to a single individual? I don't have kids, I don't drive fancy cars, live in a simple house. I live cheap when it comes to the world on the big matters. That doesn't make me some moralist.

Don't preach to me on something that's 1000s of times less expensive.
 
heatlesssun said:
How in the world does one "give" numbers for the values of a billion others to a single individual? I don't have kids, I don't drive fancy cars, live in a simple house. I live cheap when it comes to the world on the big matters. That doesn't make me some moralist.

Don't preach to me on something that's 1000s of times less expensive.
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Well, would you say the Titan X would be a foolish buy if it were priced at 1 million dollars?
 
heatlesssun said:
Almost anything at that price would be foolish as in few could afford it. Irrelevant example.
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It is a PERFECT example. LOTS of things cost over $1,000,000. We have now established that at $1,200 the Titan X is not a foolish buy but at $1,000,000 it IS foolish. So we know that at some point the Titan X would be a foolish buy, we are just now haggling over the price ;)
 
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