AMD Radeon RX 480 Video Card Review @ [H]

NemesisX said:
They're a reputable site. I was waiting to see actual benchmarks for the 1080 compared to the 480 in CrossFire and the 1080 beats it in almost every test ... or it's a little above equal. It's still impressive for the 480, but AMD's claims didn't hold true.
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I know ars technica haha, i just find their name doubly amusing because ars is also a rude word in arabic, heh. ars.

Usual mgpu deal; when it scales life is good, provided frame pacing doesn't go to shit, when it doesn't you have a useless second card. mGPU only at the top imo
 
UnrealCpu said:
yes they are . but one card is about fast as a GTX 980 when not overclocked.

GTX 1080 is the best card for single non crossfire/sli gaming
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No they aren't. That was the entire point of the article. Did you even click it?
 
I am still scratching my head.

AMD should be doing the following right now.

Drop Fury Nano to 329.99 and Fury to 349.99 and Fury X to 399.99

Seriously if they did that they could seriously make some noise. Even I would consider the those cards at those price points. Nano would have been interesting to me for my mini itx build at that price but I already bought a 1070. I am sure there are plenty of people like me here. Those cards still frickin compete especially in dx12 titles even with the newer nvidia cards.

I seriously don't believe those cards are costing them arm and leg to make still. Even then sell them to get some market share instead of waiting for vega to come out. Well its AMD I find a way to stay behind the curve.
 
NKD said:
I am still scratching my head.

AMD should be doing the following right now.

Drop Fury Nano to 329.99 and Fury to 349.99 and Fury X to 399.99

Seriously if they did that they could seriously make some noise. Even I would consider the those cards at those price points. Nano would have been interesting to me for my mini itx build at that price but I already bought a 1070. I am sure there are plenty of people like me here. Those cards still frickin compete especially in dx12 titles even with the newer nvidia cards.

I seriously don't believe those cards are costing them arm and leg to make still. Even then sell them to get some market share instead of waiting for vega to come out. Well its AMD I find a way to stay behind the curve.
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I completely agree. Maybe they're waiting to drop prices for the 490 reveal.
 
NemesisX said:
I completely agree. Maybe they're waiting to drop prices for the 490 reveal.
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thats the whole issue. I really don't think they are coming out with 490 until vega comes out. All those three cards should be sold below the gtx 1070 founders edition price. that price range will make them much more attractive.
 
NemesisX said:
No they aren't. That was the entire point of the article. Did you even click it?
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Hmm I dunno, I think I trust this man right here over TechPowerUp and ArsTechnica (I mean pfft..ARSE technica):

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Look at that man, is that the face of a complete and total liar? I don't think so! All hail AyyyMD! Team Shanghai is the best GPU team on earth, they clearly know how to make power efficient GPUs that don't kill motherboards.
 
5150Joker said:
Hmm I dunno, I think I trust this man right here over TechPowerUp and ArsTechnica (I mean pfft..ARSE technica):

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Look at that man, is that the face of a complete and total liar? I don't think so! All hail AyyyMD!
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Both AMD and NVIDIA's promotional marketing are always exaggerated. NVIDIA's exaggerations were quite a lot worse this time around, though.


NKD said:
thats the whole issue. I really don't think they are coming out with 490 until vega comes out. All those three cards should be sold below the gtx 1070 founders edition price. that price range will make them much more attractive.
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I'm really worried about AMD. They really need to step up their game.
 
NemesisX said:
Both AMD and NVIDIA's promotional marketing are always exaggerated. NVIDIA's exaggerations were quite a lot worse this time around, though.
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I'm assuming you mean the 1060 leaked slides? Because those 1060 slides aren't NVIDIAs, there's never been any proof they were nor does NVIDIA make amateurish looking slides like that.
 
5150Joker said:
I'm assuming you mean the 1060 leaked slides? Because those 1060 slides aren't NVIDIAs, there's never been any proof they were nor does NVIDIA make amateurish looking slides like that.
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Bro they all make slides like that. Seen em done before from both camps. They both hype their product. That's just how it is, I never get butt hurt over either or thats just how the game is played. I laugh and move on.
 
5150Joker said:
I'm assuming you mean the 1060 leaked slides? Because those 1060 slides aren't NVIDIAs, there's never been any proof they were nor does NVIDIA make amateurish looking slides like that.
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No, I'm referring to NVIDIA's initial promotional marketing for the 1080.
 
NemesisX said:
No, I'm referring to NVIDIA's initial promotional marketing for the 1080.
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I'm not sure which specific marketing bullet point you're referring to. Is it the 2100 MHz OC at 67 C? If so then yeah that was a bit of a screw up on their end but they did own up to it very quickly and truth be told, the 1080s are capable of peaking at 2.1 ghz even w/an FE.


NKD said:
Bro they all make slides like that. Seen em done before from both camps. They both hype their product. That's just how it is, I never get butt hurt over either or thats just how the game is played. I laugh and move on.
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I haven't seen official NVIDIA slides like those leaked ones. Regardless, I'm obviously poking fun at Raja and Team Shanghai for their very notable screw ups :D I've called JHH out several times so it was Raja's turn this time.
 
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5150Joker said:
I'm not sure which specific marketing bullet point you're referring to. Is it the 2100 MHz OC at 61 C? If so then yeah that was a bit of a screw up on their end but they did own up to it very quickly and truth be told, the 1080s are capable of peaking at 2.1 ghz even w/an FE.
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I'm talking NVIDIA's exaggerated claims regarding its performance when they first announced the card.


I haven't seen official NVIDIA slides like those leaked ones. Regardless, I'm obviously poking fun at Raja and Team Shanghai for their very notable screw ups :D I've called JHH out several times so it was Raja's turn this time.
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There weren't slides, it was just fluff NVIDIA was spewing about the 1080. One of the original claims was that it was more powerful than two 980s in SLI, which has been proven to be false.
 
Pretty sure NVIDIA was referring to VR when they made that claim against the 980 SLI and Titan X. I
 
NemesisX said:
I'm talking NVIDIA's exaggerated claims regarding its performance when they first announced the card.



There weren't slides, it was just fluff NVIDIA was spewing about the 1080. One of the original claims was that it was more powerful than two 980s in SLI, which has been proven to be false.
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All those outrageous performance claims were disclaimed with "VR" if you pay attention. Well, except 980 SLI maybe, but a single 1080 is 71% faster than 980 in 4k, so it checks out.
 
5150Joker said:
Pretty sure NVIDIA was referring to VR when they made that claim against the 980 SLI and Titan X. I
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It was just referring to non-VR performance. The claim for VR was actually much higher. Wasn't referring to that claim since these cards were specifically designed to take advantage of VR.


lolfail9001 said:
All those outrageous performance claims were disclaimed with "VR" if you pay attention. Well, except 980 SLI maybe, but a single 1080 is 71% faster than 980 in 4k, so it checks out.
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The "maybe" you just spoke of is the only thing I was talking about.. I'm referring to SLI, not a single 980. Obviously it demolishes a single 980.
 
NemesisX said:
It was just referring to non-VR performance. The claim for VR was actually much higher. Wasn't referring to that claim since these cards were specifically designed to take advantage of VR.



The "maybe" you just spoke of is the only thing I was talking about.. I'm referring to SLI, not a single 980. Obviously it demolishes a single 980.
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The point is that SLI scaling is about that mark as far as i remember.
 
NemesisX said:
No they aren't. That was the entire point of the article. Did you even click it?
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looks like to me the 480x is faster than a 970 and almost as fast as a 980
about 2-3% slower than a reference 980 when overclocked

8gb vram, games are changing and vram matters

so yeah the RX480 is a better deal than the 980 and 970 . Wait for the 1060 is my recommendation if you have a 970 and want to stay in the 200.00 range
and yeah i am looking forward to the RX 480 non reference plus when overclocked. we might see a 249.00 non reference card from AMD overclock and be quite capable of beating a stock 980 in a few months .



 
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That has nothing to do with what I said. I said two 480s aren't faster than a 1080, which was AMD's original claim. I said nothing about the 480 being a good deal or not. The 480 is a VERY good deal and has impressive results in XFire, but not quite as good as AMD wanted us to believe during their initial presentation when compared to the 1080. The 480 has an amazing price to performance ratio. That wasn't what I was saying. I wasn't bashing AMD. There's nothing on the market right now that competes with the 480s price/performance.
 
UnrealCpu said:
looks like to me the 480x is faster than a 970 and almost as fast as a 980
about 2-3% slower than a reference 980 when overclocked

8gb vram, games are changing and vram matters

so yeah the RX480 is a better deal than the 980 and 970
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Just what that horde of 970 owners were looking forward to upgrading to.
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My guess is that the 480 will be forgotten soon and the 1070 will sell like hotcakes. The majority of gamers have been proven to be willing to spend ~$350USD on a video card in the 970's case. And its highly likely the 1060 is going to take that 2nd place medal from the 480 when it arrives this month. There's really no hope for AMD here and I thought it was clear once we found out it was only 980 performance. But now it's not even 980 performance, it's 970 give or take.
Which means for the single largest group of video card buyers, it's not an upgrade at all.

I really think AMD is on their last leg. No one tries to beat the competition without a halo product. They've further damaged the brand with this "we got cheaps n' fast goods ya'll!!!" marketing pitch with Polaris. AMD was already viewed as the GPU vendor from quarter-machines.
AMD's big moment of triumph over Nvidia was supposed to be Fiji, not Vega. Fiji was what they put everything into and it got crushed. I say this as a Fiji admirer. I bet when we look back in some years, we'll identify it as AMD's last stand and the point that their back was broken.

Hate to break the bad news, but Vega doesn't have a chance in the world against the 1080Ti. Calling it now. By the time we see Vega, we'll be at the point where a completely exhausted and defeated AMD can no longer be propped up with TAM excuses and "next year secret sauce" claims.
I have nothing against AMD but at this point the idea that AMD is going to overtake Nvidia is seriously a joke.

The market will be healthier with someone other than AMD in the market competing against NV. Things will improve when AMD dies.

Right now, AMD doesn't push Intel or NV forward at all.
 
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housecat said:
Just what that horde of 970 owners were looking forward to upgrading to.
Steam Hardware & Software Survey

My guess is that the 480 will be forgotten soon and the 1070 will sell like hotcakes. The majority of gamers have been proven to be willing to spend ~$350USD on a video card in the 970's case. And its highly likely the 1060 is going to take that 2nd place medal from the 480 when it arrives this month. There's really no hope for AMD here and I thought it was clear once we found out it was only 980 performance. But now it's not even 980 performance, it's 970 give or take.
Which means for the single largest group of video card buyers, it's not an upgrade at all.

I really think AMD is on their last leg. No one tries to beat the competition without a halo product. They've further damaged the brand with this "we got cheaps n' fast goods ya'll!!!" marketing pitch with Polaris. AMD was already viewed as the GPU vendor from quarter-machines.
AMD's big moment of triumph over Nvidia was supposed to be Fiji, not Vega. Fiji was what they put everything into and it got crushed. I bet when we look back in some years, we'll identify it as AMD's last stand and the point that their back was broken.

Hate to break the bad news, but Vega doesn't have a chance in the world against the 1080Ti. Calling it now. By the time we see Vega, we'll be at the point where a completely exhausted and defeated AMD can no longer be propped up with TAM excuses and "next year secret sauce" claims.
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That all remains to be seen. AMD is hemorrhaging money right now, but it would be terrible for consumers if they left the game. That's probably not going to happen anytime soon due to their Xbox/PlayStation involvement, but they really need to step it up a few notches.
 
Maybe but its sad to see them whoring out for IP licenses. May as well shut the damn door IMO if that's your new business model, which only lasts as long as there's still value in the IP.
 
UnrealCpu said:
looks like to me the 480x is faster than a 970 and almost as fast as a 980
about 2-3% slower than a reference 980 when overclocked

8gb vram, games are changing and vram matters

so yeah the RX480 is a better deal than the 980 and 970 . Wait for the 1060 is my recommendation if you have a 970 and want to stay in the 200.00 range
and yeah i am looking forward to the RX 480 non reference plus when overclocked. we might see a 249.00 non reference card from AMD overclock and be quite capable of beating a stock 980 in a few months .



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The 970/980 are obsolete cards that do not perform well in DX 12. They both should be sold less than $200 on clearance. If the 1060 performs around the 980 in DX 11 and a little bit better in DX 12 vice worst like the 970/980 in everything it will be a nice card. I will be more interested in the AIB 480 vs AIB 1060 DX 12 game tests - the RX 480 maybe the clear winner there.
 
5150Joker said:
This is pretty much true, most of the most vocal one's I've seen on forums and reddit tend to never buy new cards from either company, they just howl about it loudly. There's this really active guy on Anandtech named RussianSensation or something and all he does is constantly defend AMD and his last card was a 7970.
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There's no point in shelling out a ton of money for a new top end card when it fails to double performance. Quite frankly the 7970 was a great card for 1080p and some 1440p. BUT the next res up is 4K. And you need some serious hardware for that which AMD (And nvidia) has failed to provide at a reasonable price (<$500)
 
UnrealCpu said:
looks like to me the 480x is faster than a 970 and almost as fast as a 980
about 2-3% slower than a reference 980 when overclocked

8gb vram, games are changing and vram matters
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Yes but what happens when you overclock the 980 and compare it? That and the 980 won't violate spec on the PEG when it's overclocked.
 
noko said:
The 970/980 are obsolete cards that do not perform well in DX 12. They both should be sold less than $200 on clearance. If the 1060 performs around the 980 in DX 11 and a little bit better in DX 12 vice worst like the 970/980 in everything it will be a nice card. I will be more interested in the AIB 480 vs AIB 1060 DX 12 game tests - the RX 480 maybe the clear winner there.
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Plan on the future lol, and don't forget the present, that is the problem with AMD thus far. And look where it got them. We don't know what will happen in the future, and thus far, AOTS if not using the in game benchmark, nV cards do just fine they line up where they should be.

So all we have is really Hitman, and depending on the reviewer and what portion of the game he/she reviewed, both AMD and nV have advantages.

Then we have Quantum Break and ROTR, both are yeah right lol.

Then ya got Forza and GOW, again yeah right lol.
 
Woops nevermind, found my answer. Still want this card lol
 
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Well they must had hit the silicon jackpot lottery looking at some of those results, and that is just comparing it to AMD cards because their results are better than a lot of others I have read.
Cheers
 
Ronin said:
I'll be damned... not bad for a $239 card that some say it's a failure...

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Yup, the RX 480 is a great miraculous card, it even trade blows with the Fury and Fury X at 2K and 4K.. nobody can't say the contrary, even all the major sites on the web including this one are all wrong, so sorry for you Brent and Kyle, you are both so biased that even with all your bias and tactics to cripple the RX 480 and show in a bad way versus other cards you can't hide the truth from the world and how the RX 480 truly perform.

So everyone take note, the RX 480 perform at Fury and Fury X levels even at 4K!!!.. we have a winner here no matter what everyone can say..
 
razor1 said:
Plan on the future lol, and don't forget the present, that is the problem with AMD thus far. And look where it got them. We don't know what will happen in the future, and thus far, AOTS if not using the in game benchmark, nV cards do just fine they line up where they should be.

So all we have is really Hitman, and depending on the reviewer and what portion of the game he/she reviewed, both AMD and nV have advantages.

Then we have Quantum Break and ROTR, both are yeah right lol.

Then ya got Forza and GOW, again yeah right lol.
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AMD has over over again shown future performance that overtakes Nvidia. As for Dx 12 another title that does well for AMD is Warhammer. It just a matter of perf/price combined with availability.

Looking at last generation the 960 sucked compared to the 380, same price category even the supposedly better maxwell design which really was not better.

I do look forward to the 1060 and see if Nvidia actually gives something decent this time.
 
Araxie said:
So everyone take note, the RX 480 perform at Fury and Fury X levels even at 4K!!!.. we have a winner here no matter what everyone can say..
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Too bad that none of those cards are capable of delivering an acceptable gaming experience at 4K. Turning down all the IQ settings and the setting the cards to 4K resolution does not a "4K card" make. Now before you rail on a bit more about "HardOCP bias," I would draw your attention to the fact that we had that opinion of the 980, 980 Ti, and Titan X as well. If 1440p cripples the RX 480 card, which our testing shows, then think how great the gaming is going to be at 4K.

Araxie said:
so sorry for you Brent and Kyle, you are both so biased that even with all your bias and tactics to cripple the RX 480 and show in a bad way versus other cards you can't hide the truth from the world and how the RX 480 truly perform
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The only thing that has crippled the RX 480 is AMD and GloFlo. If realworld gaming tests that we do "cripple the RX 480," that is not a HardOCP problem, that is an AMD problem.
 
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noko said:
AMD has over over again shown future performance that overtakes Nvidia. As for Dx 12 another title that does well for AMD is Warhammer. It just a matter of perf/price combined with availability.

Looking at last generation the 960 sucked compared to the 380, same price category even the supposedly better maxwell design which really was not better.

I do look forward to the 1060 and see if Nvidia actually gives something decent this time.
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err nV has too, when AMD has failed to make a compelling product.... Its all view of how you see things. Plus if the reviews don't show the card doing well in CURRENT games when the card is lunched its tends to not sell as well as the cards that do. The question the buyer has to ask is am I keeping this card for two or three gens and then they are will to take the gamble if that card will last that long.
 
razor1 said:
err nV has too, when AMD has failed to make a compelling product.... Its all view of how you see things. Plus if the reviews don't show the card doing well in CURRENT games when the card is lunched its tends to not sell as well as the cards that do. The question the buyer has to ask is am I keeping this card for two or three gens and then they are will to take the gamble if that card will last that long.
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Ah current games like? Warhammer, AoTs, Hitman, Farcry Primal, Battlefront . . .? Doom with Vulkan? Dues Ex? BF 1? Plenty of games that AMD does better and still some unknowns with upcoming big titles. Still Nvidia has GP 104 out unless AMD cuts some prices pretty low Nvidia will dominate on the high end.
 
I should refine my last statement. Nvidia will dominate even more on the high end unless AMD do some major cuts to Fiji cards
 
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