Google Is The World's Largest Censor And Must Be Regulated

tgom222 said:
For all the people who are ok with Google doing this, are you ok with Comcast slowing down Netflix?

Seems to me that this is very close to net neutrality.

Free and open web means good and bad.
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If you are a Comcast customer and Comcast slows down Netflix, you won't be able to watch Netflix as much as you want to, or how you want to, or at all.
If you are a Comcast customer and Google removes Netflix from its search results, this neither effects your ability to access Netflix nor its performance.
If you are a Google customer... oh wait, you're confused. You are Google's product, not their customer. This analogy isn't working.
 
My question is how much government regulation, both here in the US and around the world, force Google to "Censor" things
 
DrLobotomy said:
Outlaw censorship and kill all those who oppose. That is how you get shit done. I so miss Russian and Chinese websites popping up in my searches like the good old days.
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Ironically, that's censorship in itself.

You are censoring censors.
 
tangoseal said:
The 1st Amendment, at least in the United States since it is our law, and google being a US company, does NOT have the right to infringe our bill of rights. The Bill of Rights does not stop at the private sector.
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Yes, it absolutely DOES stop at the private sector.

The Constitution places limits on government, not private citizens. Full stop.
 
tangoseal said:
The problem is that Google code is literally EVERYWHERE and they have complete dominance over the flow of all searches for information period. They have too much farkin power and they must be regulated to allow free speech. The 1st Amendment, at least in the United States since it is our law, and google being a US company, does NOT have the right to infringe our bill of rights. The Bill of Rights does not stop at the private sector. Anyone can infringe your rights regardless of private or government and the Constitution prevents this and makes it illegal and there can be penalty of law for violating said rights. This is not about emotion or "I think". This is about black and white Rule by Law.
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Um ... have you actually read the Bill of Rights ... the first amendment states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." ... it is there in the first word, Congress (aka, The Government) is prohibited but no private organizations or individuals are restricted.
 
tangoseal said:
The problem is that Google code is literally EVERYWHERE and they have complete dominance over the flow of all searches for information period. They have too much farkin power and they must be regulated to allow free speech. The 1st Amendment, at least in the United States since it is our law, and google being a US company, does NOT have the right to infringe our bill of rights. The Bill of Rights does not stop at the private sector. Anyone can infringe your rights regardless of private or government and the Constitution prevents this and makes it illegal and there can be penalty of law for violating said rights. This is not about emotion or "I think". This is about black and white Rule by Law.
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[H] is a private US company. Do you think that they would hesitate for a second before deleting a post you made and ban you in the process if it broke the rules? No 1st Amendment protection in a private forum.
 
Funny that 4 years ago, we were heralding Google as the non-censorship company.

 
Dullard said:
[H] is a private US company. Do you think that they would hesitate for a second before deleting a post you made and ban you in the process if it broke the rules? No 1st Amendment protection in a private forum.
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Correct, but our rules are cut and dried. You don't call names and you don't get banned. On top of that, if you come into our forums and suggest that we are bribed or take payoff to write reviews, yes, we will ban you for that too. To this day, I have never found all the cash that others have told me that I have gotten for all those "good" reviews. Let me know if you find the checks so I can cash those.
 
I've got information I don't want you to have and places I won't let you take pictures of or enter for your own safety (or mine ... I have my reasons)! Oh! I forgot that sense of entitlement so many people get from receiving a free service. Yeah, I'm here to tell you that you're entitled to leave and find someone else to mooch from if you're using my infrastructure and can't abide by my rules and restrictions. Better yet, pay for and offer your own!

It's the biggest perk of living in a free society!

If you don't like something well enough, you're free to move on OR stay and put up with it. I'm free to not have to listen to your complaints. Especially, if you're not paying me for the service! And even if you did, I have the right to offer you some amount of refund, or none depending on our agreement, and cut you loose. Never to be concerned about you again- right of association works both ways:)
 
tetris42 said:
Pretty much. People here are acting like a multi-billion dollar global corporation that controls roughly 75% of the search engine market (an effective monopoly) controlling the flow of information (which literally affects billions of people) is the same thing as their local restaurant not serving BLT sandwiches.
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I've loved hearing the gripes, almost since the day Google search went live! Various people and groups not liking one thing or another about the search engine alone.

Yet, when it was pointed out they had Yahoo, Microsoft, AOL, Webcrawler and a dozen other free alternatives available, that their use, or lack thereof, of any service determined it's potential and profitability, that they might guide Google to change by going elsewhere; they'd say, "But, I like Google better!" And the same would occur for purveyors of the other search engines, as well, as each had their fanboys.

Your representation of Google having 75% of the search engine market is really a relationship to a majority of that usage being driven by people or businesses who LIKE using that service and what it provides.

That doesn't mean there still aren't other offerings or workarounds available or that it's too late to boycott using their products en masse to drive fundamental change by the loss of advertiser (click traffic) revenues. If the masses are too ignorant or unwilling to try or find alternatives, or to lazy to organize for change, then their minders need to be more creative in how they package and monitor access for them!

Google controls its OWN data feeds and your access to it. They don't control your decision to access or use it.

The internet has made hypocrites of almost all of its citizens. And, so many fail to see it! LOL
 
Dullard said:
[H] is a private US company. Do you think that they would hesitate for a second before deleting a post you made and ban you in the process if it broke the rules? No 1st Amendment protection in a private forum.
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Sigh... I refuse to go in circles with you over this.
 
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