AMD Radeon RX480 Announcement Live From Computex

shad0w4life said:
I'd argue that Quantum Break showcases AMD very very well vs Nvidia. The driver crashes that haven't been resolved, massive performance drops etc. AOTS at least runs both without issue
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We didn't see benchmarks for Quantum Break or DOOM did we? Lets throw in some Hitman, or CARS, or GTA, Rise of the tomb raider, etc...
 
Sounds like an HD 4850 move to me :)

A 4850 was my last AMD card!

I may have to go bat for the other team now. Once my GTX 960 hits limits in newer games, I'll definitely give this a look first. By that time there should be tons of quality 3rd-party cooler cards available.

Thanks AMD for being competitive in both performance/dollar and performance/watt once again!
 
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Actually, performance/watt isn't great. Both the RX-480 and the GTX1070 are 150w, but the 1070 is markedly higher performance. Not that anyone really cares about perf/watt.

Performance/dollar is stellar though.
 
schizo said:
Actually, performance/watt isn't great. Both the RX-480 and the GTX1070 are 150w, but the 1070 is markedly higher performance. Not that anyone really cares about perf/watt.

Performance/dollar is stellar though.
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Ahh yeah, I thought the rumors were pointing to 120w. That would have made this a fantastic card. That's what I was assuming when I made my post.

150w though? Yeah, nothing special long-term. They'll have to cut it too damn close to the GTX 960's performance to get it down to 110w.

Kyle was right, the card is hotter than they would have liked. The trip would have been a waste of time anyway :D

Also, if this is any indicator, Polaris 11's "GTX 950 performance at 50w" is looking suspect.
 
Same performance as a 390x/980 at $100+ cheaper, it's still a hell of a deal. Who cares if it uses 150w or 120w?
 
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schizo said:
Same performance as a 390x/980 at $100+ cheaper, it's still a hell of a deal. Who cares if it uses 150w or 120w?
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No, you're right. It should be a whole lot more manageable than the more massive 380 versus 960 75w gap. And the price is right :D

It will have more trouble making sales in notebooks (perf/watt and all), but desktops will welcome it.
 
defaultluser said:
Also, if this is any indicator, Polaris 11's "GTX 950 performance at 50w" is looking suspect.
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Not necessarily. Remember this is FinFET we are talking about which does GREAT at lower voltages in terms of efficiency. That 150W figure might be the result of AMD cranking the voltage to eek out as much performance as possible. When you do that waste heat exponentially grows...and I'm guessing it will have LITTLE in terms of o/c headroom.
 
Sweet. I saw this story around midnight last night and immediately posted my both of my 7950's on ebay and they sold overnight (for almost exactly what I paid for them about 18 months ago).

Can't predict the future, but even thought the RX480 can't keep up with the team green, I suspect the price cut is going to completely devour the used market (for AMD cards at least). I still haven't decided whether to go for the 1070 or the RX480 for my next upgrade but I have to figure it out soon or get used to integrated graphics.
 
Compwiz said:
I still haven't decided whether to go for the 1070 or the RX480 for my next upgrade but I have to figure it out soon or get used to integrated graphics.
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If you plan to stick with 1080p gaming for awhile, then the $80 saved with a 480 might be the most logical choice. But if you have plans for 1440p gaming at ultra settings at higher than 60hz, then a 1070 would be the obvious choice. Just my opinion anyway.......
 
Singularity_Survivor said:
If you plan to stick with 1080p gaming for awhile, then the $80 saved with a 480 might be the most logical choice. But if you have plans for 1440p gaming at ultra settings at higher than 60hz, then a 1070 would be the obvious choice. Just my opinion anyway.......
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390X does 1440 gaming quite well. The 8GB card will do that quite well and with lower heat/power than a 390X.

I won't be moving to a 480, but I am curious where the 490 and 500 series will place and at what price.
 
It will do 1440 gaming at medium/high settings and >30fps, sure. It won't do ultra/max settings at 60fps in many modern games. I mean, think of a 970. You know how a 970 performs.
 
So many people in this forum are so into anal as long as it comes from nVidia and Intel and unlubricated.

I swear half the corporate cocksuckers in here think that Intel and nVidia's price gouging is a good thing.
 
There are irrational fanboys for both red and green here, for sure. What's your point?
 
Thread seemed pretty rational to me without fanboism, until rat showed up and shat on the thread.
 
schizo said:
Actually, performance/watt isn't great. Both the RX-480 and the GTX1070 are 150w, but the 1070 is markedly higher performance. Not that anyone really cares about perf/watt.

Performance/dollar is stellar though.
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Do we really know if it actually uses 150W though? RX 480 is 1x6-pin while 1070 is 1x8-pin. The 970 was 2x6-pin as well.
 
Raja put 150w on the slide. Don't know how much clearer you can get than that.
 
schizo said:
Raja put 150w on the slide. Don't know how much clearer you can get than that.
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Honestly, that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot. Truth be told, we just have to wait until [H] has them in their hands and runs them through the paces.
 
Guys... AMD's TDPs have always been more honest than Nvidia's. There is no universally accepted way to scientifically measure TDP, its consistent within the company's methodology, but not comparable against other brands. For all we know, '150 Nvidia watts' are much hotter than '150 AMD watts', dispite the measurement being identical across the two.
 
Yeah, I'd be surprised if they shipped a card that actually consumes 150w stock with a singe 6-pin. It would be telling consumers that you can't overclock, not even a little bit :D

There are some exceptions, like the bus-powered GTX 950, but most cards are built with overclock headroom.

That's why I was so convinced the card is 120w, because every leak showed that single 6-pin. It may just be the spec for "maximum available power."
 
schizo said:
Raja put 150w on the slide. Don't know how much clearer you can get than that.
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It would be 150w with power target +50 on Furmark. If you listened to the webcast Raja said less than 150w.

150w would be a worst case scenario in graphics/compute situations. I have a feeling overclocking will be a bust until we see custom boards though.
 
If it is maxing out on the available power in the slot+6-pin, then that could help to explain the low GPU utilization numbers?
 
Rvenger said:
It would be 150w with power target +50 on Furmark. If you listened to the webcast Raja said less than 150w.

150w would be a worst case scenario in graphics/compute situations. I have a feeling overclocking will be a bust until we see custom boards though.
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You think they purposefully made the card look bad in the written slides? That's pretty funny. But no.
 
How does this compare to a single 290x, 1070 and 1080. That's what I want to know.

I want single card performance numbers. I don't have time to mommy SLI or Crossfire setups.
 
We won't know for sure until review units go out of course, but all indications are that the 480 is equivalent to a 390x/980, which makes it substantially slower than a 1070/titan X/980ti and much, much slower than a 1080.
 
So, I guess the 490x will tell the real story here then.
 
TechLarry said:
So, I guess the 490x will tell the real story here then.
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This is what I find confusing. We know the 480 and maybe a 480x(?) are coming, but I keep reading about this 490x. Where is info this coming from? Will there be a 480/480x and 490/490x? Or is the assumption a 490x will follow the 480 while completely skipping a 480x/490 nomenclature?
 
KazeoHin said:
Guys... AMD's TDPs have always been more honest than Nvidia's. There is no universally accepted way to scientifically measure TDP, its consistent within the company's methodology, but not comparable against other brands. For all we know, '150 Nvidia watts' are much hotter than '150 AMD watts', dispite the measurement being identical across the two.
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Blah ha ha. Obviously you forgot your high school chemistry where you stuck a chemical reaction inside a Styrofoam box with a thermometer to calculate the number of Joules released. Divide that by time and you got watts.

Anyways, other than fans and LEDs in the computer, computers are one of the most efficient electrical heat sources there is. Just about every bit gets turned into heat.
 
KazeoHin said:
Guys... AMD's TDPs have always been more honest than Nvidia's. There is no universally accepted way to scientifically measure TDP, its consistent within the company's methodology, but not comparable against other brands. For all we know, '150 Nvidia watts' are much hotter than '150 AMD watts', dispite the measurement being identical across the two.
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LOL no 150 watts means 150 watts of heat outputted into the room, doesn't matter who makes the card are not

That's why when ya measure the cards wattage, you can ignore the TDP. Cause AMD's current line up they go way above the advertised TDP.
 
schizo said:
You think they purposefully made the card look bad in the written slides? That's pretty funny. But no.
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Remember Nano? They compared it to the GTX 980 which it soundly beat. I don't think they exaggerate like they used to. 150w will be the board power and worst case scenario. You can rub it in my face if its not the case later.

If I am wrong then Vega is fucked big time.
 
Look max power consumption on the rx480 is 150 watts, I'm sure its lower than that, it has to be, how much lower I'm thinking its around 130 watts. If the used more than 150 watts, they would have had to put another 6 pin connector or replace the 6 pin connector with an 8 pin.
 
Nvidia is opposite. GTX 1070 150w TDP on 8 pin which can peak at 175w. Still good power consumption though.
 
The connector doesn't tell you the TDP, TDP is what the cooler is rated to dissipate the heat at at certain RPMs of the fan. So the power consumption has nothing to do with the TDP. The 1070 from what have seen the board doesn't use more than 150 watts at load.
 
razor1 said:
Look max power consumption on the rx480 is 150 watts, I'm sure its lower than that, it has to be, how much lower I'm thinking its around 130 watts. If the used more than 150 watts, they would have had to put another 6 pin connector or replace the 6 pin connector with an 8 pin.
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This!

Let me build on this. the slide said greater than 5 tflops.

so anything above that will have to fit in the same wattage up to 150w.

So in simple terms that board power is 150 and none of the cards in the series will consume more than 150w. Get it everyone?

so if card A is 5Tflops and Card B is 5.5, and TDP is 150W max for both, card a must fucking consume less damn it! lol
 
How many people actually care about power? Is it really that many? I mean yeah if the thing is drawing gianormous amounts of juice then it's a problem but are the amounts these cards are at now a big deal? And is it the end of the world if one is making 150 watts? There was a post in one of these threads saying literally AMD is doomed because the 480 is a 150 watt card. Seems like some are getting carried away worrying about efficiency.
 
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