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The folks at VideoCardz have what they claim is a slide showing the specifications of the upcoming AMD Radeon RX 480. As always, you should take this image with a grain of salt but, it gives us something to talk about until we see something official from AMD.
 
There's a WSJ article floating around that prices it at $199USD too. If so, combined with the specs leak that puts RX480 performance at between a 970 and 980, that'd be pretty nice.
 
Comparing to nVidia outgoing technology does not make me feel good.

nVidia did much more than a "new revision number upgrade" this time. AMD cannot and will not get away with that shit this time. If they try, i predict it will be their undoing.

I think another 290 = 7970 horseshit release or 390x barely better than 290x horseshit release could sink them permanently. They are better off not releasing anything until they have beaten nVidia on both performance and price. They have to. They must. Or they are done IMHO.

And I'm an AMD fan. Right now, there is nothing compelling in their product line that impresses me. The nVidia 1070 is going to sell like fucking hotcakes, and I predict product shortages will cause prices in excess of list for a while. Possibly longer than we are used to.
 
TechLarry said:
Comparing to nVidia outgoing technology does not make me feel good.

nVidia did much more than a "new revision number upgrade" this time. AMD cannot and will not get away with that shit this time. If they try, i predict it will be their undoing.

I think another 290 = 7970 horseshit release or 390x barely better than 290x horseshit release could sink them permanently. They are better off not releasing anything until they have beaten nVidia on both performance and price. They have to. They must. Or they are done IMHO.

And I'm an AMD fan. Right now, there is nothing compelling in their product line that impresses me. The nVidia 1070 is going to sell like fucking hotcakes, and I predict product shortages will cause prices in excess of list for a while. Possibly longer than we are used to.
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I am right there with you, but if Lazz is right and this thing is only $199 that would be pretty killer.
 
Could increase sales a lot...

$200 = AMD 480 = Between 390/390x and 970/980 performance w/ 8gb
$250 = AMD 480x? = Between 390x/Fury and 980/980ti performance w/ 8gb

$380 = nVidia 1070 = Between FuryX and 980ti/TitanX performance w/ 8gb
$600 = nVidia 1080 = Beyond Titan X performance w/ 8gb

I'd say their prices line up well with what nVidia is releasing... Perhaps better, as im not expecting a 1060 to outperform a 980 $250, but I am expecting a 480x to..

At the end of the day, it is nice to see performance between 390/390x and 970/980 with 8gb vram starting at $200. This is a pretty solid generation jump imo, despite some having higher expectation.
 
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Seem to remember that 5.5 TFlops was what was supposed to be the 480x not the 480.
 
The price performance ratio could be a very big win for AMD. I hope so.
 
Nukester said:
The price performance ratio could be a very big win for AMD. I hope so.
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Yes. I wonder if we're getting into the realms of 'good enough' for many customers? If a card is good enough to handle gaming at 1080p at max settings with reduced power usage, why go for something more expensive?
 
jamesgalb said:
Could increase sales a lot...

$200 = AMD 480 = Between 390/390x and 970/980 performance
$250 = AMD 480x? = Between 390x/Fury and 980/980ti performance

$380 = nVidia 1070 = Between FuryX and 980ti/TitanX performance
$600 = nVidia 1080 = Beyond Titan X performance

I'd say their prices line up well with what nVidia is releasing... Perhaps better, as im not expecting a 1060 to outperform a 980 $250, but I am expecting a 480x to..

At the end of the day, it is nice to see performance between 390/390x and 970/980 with 8gb vram starting at $200. This is a pretty solid generation jump imo, despite some having higher expectation.
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I"m not video card expert and although I might buy a fast card from Nvidia for the hell of it, if I didn't have extra cash to burn, I'd totally consider these AMD cards at those prices. 8 months ago, a 4GB 960 sold in the range of a 480 to 480x.

And folks, that's where the money is. The vast majority of after market video cards sell for under 250. I don't think I've ever paid more than that for a card.
 
With the 480x likely falling just behind the Fury X/980ti, at Fury-ish levels.... It would be VERY close to the 1070 in terms of performance.

Marginally slower than a 1070x, lower TDP and $130+ less... potentially more OC headroom?

AMD just WRECKED the 1070.
 
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Quartz-1 said:
Yes. I wonder if we're getting into the realms of 'good enough' for many customers? If a card is good enough to handle gaming at 1080p at max settings with reduced power usage, why go for something more expensive?
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If it delivers performance near or at 980 levels for $200-$250, I'll buy one no questions asked.
 
Everybody is trying to spit polish a turd here.
AMD has simply fallen off the grid in a number of ways, essentially knocked out by the 1080 AND 1070 release.

They got nothing, so they are going to try and sell on price.

Their software still stinks. I'm not going back to that. I still have a couple of 290X cards, held back in their day by crap software.

My 980 Ti cards have been very good, but also held back by a lack of SLi and multi-monitor support, but Ill run with NVidia from here.
 
TechLarry said:
Comparing to nVidia outgoing technology does not make me feel good.

nVidia did much more than a "new revision number upgrade" this time. AMD cannot and will not get away with that shit this time. If they try, i predict it will be their undoing.

I think another 290 = 7970 horseshit release or 390x barely better than 290x horseshit release could sink them permanently. They are better off not releasing anything until they have beaten nVidia on both performance and price. They have to. They must. Or they are done IMHO.

And I'm an AMD fan. Right now, there is nothing compelling in their product line that impresses me. The nVidia 1070 is going to sell like fucking hotcakes, and I predict product shortages will cause prices in excess of list for a while. Possibly longer than we are used to.
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Yes, because mid-range to low-high performance at low prices has always done terrible, doomed, doomed I tell you...:whistle:
 
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magoo said:
Everybody is trying to spit polish a turd here.
AMD has simply fallen off the grid in a number of ways, essentially knocked out by the 1080 AND 1070 release.

They got nothing, so they are going to try and sell on price.

Their software still stinks. I'm not going back to that. I still have a couple of 290X cards, held back in their day by crap software.

My 980 Ti cards have been very good, but also held back by a lack of SLi and multi-monitor support, but Ill run with NVidia from here.
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This post just reeks of fanboyism.
 
magoo said:
Everybody is trying to spit polish a turd here.
AMD has simply fallen off the grid in a number of ways, essentially knocked out by the 1080 AND 1070 release.

They got nothing, so they are going to try and sell on price.

Their software still stinks. I'm not going back to that. I still have a couple of 290X cards, held back in their day by crap software.

My 980 Ti cards have been very good, but also held back by a lack of SLi and multi-monitor support, but Ill run with NVidia from here.
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Fanboy Alert!
 
I have a system here with an R9 390, I can say I am very happy with how it performs @ 1080p in every game it has played. I really don't understand the bashing on the software/driver side for these, I have only had one issue with drivers and that was on install (I am sure others have had issues, just giving my experience). Windows automatic update was on when I put in the card and I spent about an hour trying to get it to work right (It was downloading IDK what driver but it just didn't work), then I disabled the automatic update and haven't had an issue since. I will admit I don't update the driver regularly, early adopter gunshy I guess.

With that said, if people can get the FPS (and more) for $200 as I have here without driver/software issues than I don't see how this is a flop. The only issue I can see is no Halo product and no Halo effect.

Note: My system runs a GTX 770, I am fanboy neutral, I have just been waiting for these new cards to show up before I upgraded.
 
jamesgalb said:
With the 480x likely falling just behind the Fury X/980ti, at Fury-ish levels.... It would be VERY close to the 1070 in terms of performance.

Marginally slower than a 1070x, lower TDP, $130+ less, gddr5x... potentially more OC headroom?

AMD just WRECKED the 1070.
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In what world is a 390x "marginally slower" than a 980ti/Titan X?
 
Phail said:
I have a system here with an R9 390, I can say I am very happy with how it performs @ 1080p in every game it has played. I really don't understand the bashing on the software/driver side for these, I have only had one issue with drivers and that was on install (I am sure others have had issues, just giving my experience). Windows automatic update was on when I put in the card and I spent like about an hour trying to get it to work right, then I disabled the automatic update and haven't had an issue since. I will admit I don't update the driver regularly, early adopter gunshy I guess.

With that said, if people can get the FPS (and more) for $200 as I have here without driver/software issues than I don't see how this is a flop. The only issue I can see is no Halo product and no Halo effect.

Note: My system runs a GTX 770, I am fanboy neutral, I have just been waiting for these new cards to show up before I upgraded.
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My current R9 390 is my first AMD card since the HD 5870 (and 3rd AMD/ATI card ever). I've been using the Crimson drivers and have had zero issues. RTG has been very quick to release game ready drivers and driver updates to address any issues (within a day usually). AMD's drivers have drastically improved in my experience.
 
I'm hoping that those rumored prices are the real deal (or even possibly better): I'd be very happy to buy a 480x in, say, the $200-229 range as a nice backup card if it indeed is the price/performance leader. Now, what does the GTX 1060 have up it's sleeve?
 
exlink said:
My current R9 390 is my first AMD card since the HD 5870 (and 3rd AMD/ATI card ever). I've been using the Crimson drivers and have had zero issues. RTG has been very quick to release game ready drivers and driver updates to address any issues (within a day usually). AMD's drivers have drastically improved in my experience.
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I have had

ATI/AMD 9800XT, 5750, 6850, 280X and 390. 390 was the only card I remember having issues with on install, or any issue at all.

I have also had Nvidia 6800GT, 8800GTS (SLI also) and GTX 770. I can't remember having an issue with any of these.
 
magoo said:
Everybody is trying to spit polish a turd here.
AMD has simply fallen off the grid in a number of ways, essentially knocked out by the 1080 AND 1070 release.

They got nothing, so they are going to try and sell on price.

Their software still stinks. I'm not going back to that. I still have a couple of 290X cards, held back in their day by crap software.

My 980 Ti cards have been very good, but also held back by a lack of SLi and multi-monitor support, but Ill run with NVidia from here.
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The reported size difference between Polaris 10 and GP204 doesn't show that they were ever intended to be competitors, plus regardless of Kyle's claims, AMD has been talking about these as Mid-range cards at Mid-range prices as long as they've been giving out information.

As far as drivers? Well, I guess that's subjective, but I've had nothing but good things to say ever since the Crimson release. To be fair, I had very few issues even before that. But they've been on their A game with new releases and fixes. If you still have those 290X's, and you're not using a newer set of drivers, then you should really give them a try, and do it with an open mind. I think you'll be surprised.

If you're held back on your 980ti's in regards to SLI AND mutli-monitor, then it seems like you're pretty forgiving as far as software support, I'm not sure what issues you've had with the AMD drivers, but they're solid right now.
 
TurboGLH said:
AMD has been talking about these as Mid-range cards at Mid-range prices as long as they've been giving out information.
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Right because when you design a new product, you don't aim for the top, you aim for the middle. :ROFLMAO:

Building a new midsize car, you shoot for the middle of the pack. Don't use the top model as your benchmark / standard.
 
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TurboGLH said:
The reported size difference between Polaris 10 and GP204 doesn't show that they were ever intended to be competitors, plus regardless of Kyle's claims, AMD has been talking about these as Mid-range cards at Mid-range prices as long as they've been giving out information.
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Indeed they have.
 
Anyone comparing the Polaris-based cards with the 1070 / 1080 has no understanding of the wider GPU market. A large majority of buyers have never spent and will never spend more than $200-$250 on a graphics card. That's why ATI's 4800 series brought them back from the brink despite being significantly slower than NVidia's GTX 2x0 series. The 4850 could be had for around 200 bucks and came within spitting distance of the much more expensive GTX 260.

At $380, the 1070 is a completely different price category and the 1060 is nowhere in sight. In the <$250 category the only options are a used 970 or 390, or a new 960 which has nowhere near the same performance. If AMD can deliver GTX 970-level performance for $200 they will leave NVidia's sales in the dust this year, halo or no halo. Having said that, the reports of bad management, vindictive PR behavior, and lack of press from AMD are signs of an inferior product, so it might not be the second coming of the 4800 series. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
TurboGLH said:
regardless of Kyle's claims, AMD has been talking about these as Mid-range cards at Mid-range prices as long as they've been giving out information.
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Uh huh....


back·ped·al
ˈbakˌpedl/
verb
  1. move the pedals of a bicycle backward in order to brake.
    • move hastily backward.
      "backpedaling furiously, he flipped a perfect pass"
 
Stereodude said:
Right because when you design a new product, you don't aim for the top, you aim for the middle. :ROFLMAO:

Building a new midsize car, you shoot for the middle of the pack. Don't use the top model as your benchmark / standard.
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This analogy is moronic. You can't compare products. It would only make sense if the Polaris was slower than theirs or their competition's earlier mid range cards.

It will be on the top of the mid range market.
 
Stereodude said:
Right because when you design a new product, you don't aim for the top, you aim for the middle. :ROFLMAO:

Building a new midsize car, you shoot for the middle of the pack. Don't use the top model as your benchmark / standard.
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Based on that solid piece of logic, nobody would ever build a mid priced sedan, we would only ever drive new sports cars. They're shooting for mid-range, I'm not sure whats hard about that. They have high end gpu coming out, waiting on HBM2 it seems like.

DPI said:
Uh huh....


back·ped·al
ˈbakˌpedl/
verb
  1. move the pedals of a bicycle backward in order to brake.
    • move hastily backward.
      "backpedaling furiously, he flipped a perfect pass"
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In order to back pedal you need to have made a claim and then try to distance yourself from it. It's possible I missed that, so I'm open to you showing me a claim AMD made where they put polaris 11/10 up against GP204. It's been on the roadmap since, idk....the roadmap came out, that Vega/Greenland is Q1-2017.
 
TurboGLH said:
Based on that solid piece of logic, nobody would ever build a mid priced sedan, we would only ever drive new sports cars. They're shooting for mid-range, I'm not sure whats hard about that. They have high end gpu coming out, waiting on HBM2 it seems like.
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No, that's not the logic at all. It would be like building a car to beat the Chrysler 200 in every way when the Corolla is the market leader in the segment.
 
I am amazed people find a way to stay ignorant and refuse to understand the simple logic. If this card at 200 comes out to be faster than 980 and matches fury level performance. WTF about it you don't understand. Matching a current 500 dollar card and bringing it down to mainstream. Leave yourself out of this for a little bit understand that everything may not apply to you or me. But it may apply to 80% of the crowd out there that don't want to deal with spending 500 bucks, for some thats mobo and cpu for xtra 300. Now if you just simply hate AMD I understand and you are more than welcome to spend 450 on 1070 and 699 for the 1080. I know its 379 and 599, but let me know when they are available. Nvidia's pathetic way to rip people off for the first month, lol.
 
TechLarry said:
Comparing to nVidia outgoing technology does not make me feel good.

nVidia did much more than a "new revision number upgrade" this time. AMD cannot and will not get away with that shit this time. If they try, i predict it will be their undoing.

I think another 290 = 7970 horseshit release or 390x barely better than 290x horseshit release could sink them permanently. They are better off not releasing anything until they have beaten nVidia on both performance and price. They have to. They must. Or they are done IMHO.

And I'm an AMD fan. Right now, there is nothing compelling in their product line that impresses me. The nVidia 1070 is going to sell like fucking hotcakes, and I predict product shortages will cause prices in excess of list for a while. Possibly longer than we are used to.
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So assuming this is accurate, GTX 970 or better performance at $200 doesn't cut it as a price/performance win for you? K....

People seem to forget, most people (myself included) are not going to spend $1000 on a video card. I don't really care who has the best of the best at the top end. I want to see who's releasing an affordable solution that performs well. I don't know what happened a few years ago, but video card pricing has become absolutely absurd, and if AMD releases something in the GTX 970 range for $200, then I fail to see how this isn't positive for the consumer and how it won't result in a market share gain for AMD. I'm sorry, but I just don't.

Again, this assumes that the rumours are accurate.
 
Again! level of ignorance is pathetic here. Language in the posts crys out fanboy. LOL I am gonna grab popcorn and I will enjoy this.
 
arthur_tuxedo said:
Anyone comparing the Polaris-based cards with the 1070 / 1080 has no understanding of the wider GPU market. A large majority of buyers have never spent and will never spend more than $200-$250 on a graphics card. That's why ATI's 4800 series brought them back from the brink despite being significantly slower than NVidia's GTX 2x0 series. The 4850 could be had for around 200 bucks and came within spitting distance of the much more expensive GTX 260.

At $380, the 1070 is a completely different price category and the 1060 is nowhere in sight. In the <$250 category the only options are a used 970 or 390, or a new 960 which has nowhere near the same performance. If AMD can deliver GTX 970-level performance for $200 they will leave NVidia's sales in the dust this year, halo or no halo. Having said that, the reports of bad management, vindictive PR behavior, and lack of press from AMD are signs of an inferior product, so it might not be the second coming of the 4800 series. We'll just have to wait and see.
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It's not just hobbiests you have to consider. System OEMs are going to favour a $200 solution all day. If you're Dell and can advertise a VR ready "gaming PC" with a $200 video card, are you going to try to sell $700 GTX 1080s? Probably not, and consumers shopping for GTX 1080 power aren't phoning Dell right now either.

People who are calling this a bad idea have no idea how the video card market actually works.
 
Quartz-1 said:
Yes. I wonder if we're getting into the realms of 'good enough' for many customers? If a card is good enough to handle gaming at 1080p at max settings with reduced power usage, why go for something more expensive?
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Or if you're an OEM like Dell building hundreds of thousands of computers, does a $200 video card you can advertise as "VR Ready" sound like a good idea, or are they going to spring an extra $400+ per system so they can show HP their e-peen?
 
arthur_tuxedo said:
Anyone comparing the Polaris-based cards with the 1070 / 1080 has no understanding of the wider GPU market. A large majority of buyers have never spent and will never spend more than $200-$250 on a graphics card. That's why ATI's 4800 series brought them back from the brink despite being significantly slower than NVidia's GTX 2x0 series. The 4850 could be had for around 200 bucks and came within spitting distance of the much more expensive GTX 260.

At $380, the 1070 is a completely different price category and the 1060 is nowhere in sight. In the <$250 category the only options are a used 970 or 390, or a new 960 which has nowhere near the same performance. If AMD can deliver GTX 970-level performance for $200 they will leave NVidia's sales in the dust this year, halo or no halo. Having said that, the reports of bad management, vindictive PR behavior, and lack of press from AMD are signs of an inferior product, so it might not be the second coming of the 4800 series. We'll just have to wait and see.
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A large majority yes, but there is an undeniable amount of sale that does occur in the mid upper tier. Taken from a quick google search.

"NVIDIA has sold over 1 million GeForce GTX 970 and GTX 980 video cards since their release and so far there doesn't appear to be a real-world scenario that shows detrimental performance as a result of the GeForce GTX 970 video cards complex memory solution.Jan 29, 2015"

1 million cards by january 2015, so over 15 months ago, when they were averaging $349 per 970 and 549 per 980. That's a pretty significant chunk.
 
They sold over a million 970s in the first two months. The number was mentioned when the VRAM issue happened.

45-60 million AIB a year... and looking at Steam a decent percentage are higher cost cards. I wish we could get real numbers... kinda curious.
 
Dayaks said:
They sold over a million 970s in the first two months. The number was mentioned when the VRAM issue happened.

45-60 million AIB a year... and looking at Steam a decent percentage are higher cost cards. I wish we could get real numbers... kinda curious.
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bingo, was gonna mention that. the 970 right now takes the reign with a 5.14% total market share of current cards from the pool size (Wish I could find out what the pool size was). The closest ati is ranked 13th with 1.2% share of the marketplace.

Which is weird since I thought it easily would of been an AMD onboard video up there for games like dota or league.
 
HockeyJon said:
Or if you're an OEM like Dell building hundreds of thousands of computers, does a $200 video card you can advertise as "VR Ready" sound like a good idea, or are they going to spring an extra $400+ per system so they can show HP their e-peen?
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The man has spoken! People think from their feelings and can't leave personal bias outside. I think you couldn't have said it better.
 
Twiddling my thumbs with an old 9600GT. I was hoping for something quiet, decently fast, and efficient in the $100-175 range on the new 14/16nm processes. I'll consider the AMD $200 card if it's hitting that high of a performance level and is still efficient. Though I'm curious to see tonight if they mention their step down model (assuming the $200 card rumors are true).
 
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