Bad Time to Buy? Gsync

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I'm not seeing much movement in the monitor market, quality, selection or price.

Looking mainly at 27+, IPS/PLS, 4k, with gsync. I might drop down to 1440 though. Seems like there are still QC issues, and not really a lot of selection with the above specs. I'm assuming with the GPU revolution happening, no one is going to be dropping prices soon on monitors either. Probably a lot of demand soon to come.

Do I REALLY need to stick with gsync? I'd rather, but if/when gpu power can run 4k at high refresh, will it matter?
 
Computex is going on right now, in the next 24 hrs we will see more monitor announcements. Asus has already announced a 180hz and 240hz monitor today with GSync. Going by past experiences with Asus, these may not be available until late this year.

Gsync IMHO is worth it, it allows you to turn off vsync and enjoy tearing free images with significantly less lag.

From what your looking for, 4k with gsync there is only three options right now, the Benq 32 inch 4k gsync, Asus Rog 4k gsync and the acer 4k ( tn panel ) with gsync.

Having used the Benq one myself I would say go for the Asus between the three of those or wait and see what is announced at Computex today.
 
I doubt prices will drop much, and would expect better products to replace the old at similar prices.
Asus just demonstrated 1080p180, 1080p240, and 2160p144 Hz G-Sync displays, so if you're planning on getting a 10-series GPU from NVIDIA it might be worth waiting.
G-Sync is essential. Any time your framerate drops below your refresh rate - which is more common as resolutions increase - you get awful stuttering on a fixed refresh-rate display.
 
For what you're looking for, the LG Arcline series (see separate thread) may meet your needs. 4k, 27", IPS, FreeSync, $400 currently on sale. It's literally $400 cheaper than the closest GSync equivalent. It's also apparently not a panel lottery .

The monitor plus an AMD GPU may actually cost less than the GSync monitor alone.
 
Used to be a Radeon guy, but been Nvidia for awhile now. With the 10xx performance, pretty sure I'll go that route.
 
Well I returned 3 27" Dell G-sync monitors. Basically TN monitors should be left in the in pre-2012. Honestly to me these days amazing color they try to market to you is just how high can you hike your brightness. G-sync was honestly pretty great I enjoyed that feature. However 1440 is brutal, I could not imagine how terrible gaming with a 4k monitor would be. Basically 1440 scales like shit in 90% of everything except supported games. So Windows sucks, browsing mediocre, programs like steam oh great all the buttons and text is the WAAAAAAAAY too small and does not scale well. But at least you can see the fine details of an Orcs ass all the while you need a high end graphics card to push the resolution Woop de doo. I'm going to stick with a 24" 1080p for my next monitor, a 1060/1070 can destroy anything that comes at it and everything will actually look good. So honestly if you need 4k for things like image editing or whatever go for it, but if you actually enjoy sitting at your computer I really can't say it was a great time. I doubt they'll release one but I would take a 24" IPS with 120-144hz G-sync any day. Anyone know if one exists?

Just make sure you spend some time with a 1440p or 4k before you buy one.
 
coolhandm3 said:
From what your looking for, 4k with gsync there is only three options right now, the Benq 32 inch 4k gsync, Asus Rog 4k gsync and the acer 4k ( tn panel ) with gsync.
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Acer also has a 32" 4k IPS panel with gsync but it is very expensive and only 60Hz.

Within a year from now we will have 4k 120/144Hz options with gsync or freesync. So I'd wait personally.
 
zone74 said:
I doubt prices will drop much, and would expect better products to replace the old at similar prices.
Asus just demonstrated 1080p180, 1080p240, and 2160p144 Hz G-Sync displays, so if you're planning on getting a 10-series GPU from NVIDIA it might be worth waiting.
G-Sync is essential. Any time your framerate drops below your refresh rate - which is more common as resolutions increase - you get awful stuttering on a fixed refresh-rate display.
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OHHH, finally it is happening, I've been waiting for this high refresh 1080p ROG monitor to come out forever (first appeared on CES in January), I didn't expect quite 180 or well 240Hz though (it was then talk about maybe supporting 165Hz at the time, guess they changed their mind as Acer released their 180Hz) xD Oh well it doesn't hurt to have the capability I guess, can always lower it to more "sane" levels for more demanding games. Guess I will need that GTX 1070 after all.
 
SpongeBob said:
I doubt they'll release one but I would take a 24" IPS with 120-144hz G-sync any day. Anyone know if one exists?
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Asus already announced PG248Q, 24" 1080p180hz TN, so if that proves popular enough, there may be a chance they'd follow up with a IPS model, just like they did with PG278Q and PG279Q

SpongeBob said:
Just make sure you spend some time with a 1440p or 4k before you buy one.
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Here is the catch 22...

How do you spend time with a 1440p or 4k without buying one?

For the OP: for a 24" 1080p screen, a 1440p screen would have to be around 31.2" to maintain the PPI (closest being 32" 1440p) or 48" for 4k. 32" G-Sync only comes in 4k, and I am not sure if 32" 1440p has any FreeSync models.
 
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What you guys expect the pricing will be like, my bet is $499 for the 180Hz one and $549 for 240Hz and I bet many of you will be screaming YIKES! for a 1080p. The Acer 180Hz is $449. This is probably the reason there isn't existing an IPS alternative right now as that will push up the price yet another 50 - $100 which I guess the manufacturers will seem like they will have a hard time selling due to what the pricing of 27" / 1440p are like these days.

Might be hard to get 24" 1080p IPS 144Hz(+) GSYNC sold for $599, drop GSYNC and we could see it at $499 though.
 
If you can maintain 60 FPS, using a frame limiter or adaptive Vsync is just fine at 4K. I played DOOM at 4K between 45-60 FPS with adaptive Vsync and it was fine. Then again, I'm not a super hardcore twitch mega-gamer. Doom on nightmare was just about my skill limit.
 
Well it's not only about having a competitive edge, for me it's not the biggest selling point, it's more how I percieve/experience smooth motion really making it feel much more enjoyable as it's so buttery smooth and fluid, it gives a more realistic feel. 60Hz certainly won't give you the experience of focusing your eye sight on your hand when moving it in real life in front of your eyes, it's not just feeling realistic (which you will notice particularly well the first time you experience 100Hz+ compared to 60Hz. But not everyone are smooth motion freaks either so then a lower refresh rate will do fine.

It's a bit the same principle as to why some audiophiles don't mind spending like over $1000 on a headphone and amp, just to hear that little bit more detail.

Seems these monitors are primarily targeted towards eSports scene which makes sense, 24"-24.5"/1080p/TN/blazing fast response times & refresh rate, for this these will be perfect and e-Sports have grown exponentially and I bet it makes for some great marketing to have your monitors featured in the events as these e-Sposts events have a large following these days too.
 
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I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more G-Sync equipped 4K monitors out on the market. You'd figure that adaptive sync technology would be the perfect marriage to a demanding resolution like that. With DP 1.4 on the newest NVIDIA cards hopefully we'll start to see 120 Hz 4K panels with G-Sync emerging.
 
KazeoHin said:
If you can maintain 60 FPS, using a frame limiter or adaptive Vsync is just fine at 4K. I played DOOM at 4K between 45-60 FPS with adaptive Vsync and it was fine. Then again, I'm not a super hardcore twitch mega-gamer. Doom on nightmare was just about my skill limit.
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And there is no hardware which can sustain a constant 60 FPS in every game at 1440p or 2160p. Some games won't even hold 60 FPS at 1080p.
V-Sync adds a high amount of latency to eliminate tearing. When your framerate drops below the refresh rate, you get very bad stuttering on a fixed refresh rate display.
G-Sync eliminates tearing, stuttering, and latency.
 
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