McDonald’s CEO: No Plans To Replace Employees With Robots Yet

Stiletto said:
Sure, that's why burrito places like Qdoba are becoming more recognizable chains while Burger King is shutting down locations.
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Actually, believe it or not, BK is in a rebuilding phase at the moment. Most of the buildings housing BKs are more than 20 years old.

About a dozen locations have closed around me in the last 5 years. So far, three of them have been torn down, and are now being rebuilt as newer BKs, with more on the way.
 
If I have a business I should be able to set my starting wage based on what I think labor is worth, not be forced to pay what the corrupt asshole Government says I should pay.
If people don't like it they can work somewhere else. They have that freedom.
It is simple really. I can't understand why people don't get that.
 
HardUp4HardWare said:
If I have a business I should be able to set my starting wage based on what I think labor is worth, not be forced to pay what the corrupt asshole Government says I should pay.
If people don't like it they can work somewhere else. They have that freedom.
It is simple really. I can't understand why people don't get that.
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Because we are living in a strange mental breakdown state where the value of individual rights regarding property and speech are being forsaken in favor of new rights against being offended or feeling excluded from non-government entities.

Remember 'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me'? Yeah, that's gone. Now words not only break your bones, but they marginalize you and make you small. Rejection is now on par with murder. If you reject someone for any stupid reason, you're a criminal, not simply an asshole.
 
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HardUp4HardWare said:
If I have a business I should be able to set my starting wage based on what I think labor is worth, not be forced to pay what the corrupt asshole Government says I should pay.
If people don't like it they can work somewhere else. They have that freedom.
It is simple really. I can't understand why people don't get that.
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No man! Be a good little drone. Give the other good little drones all your money.
The money wants to be free man! You evil capitalist you!
 
OEM said:
The $15/hr wage will hasten the demise of the burger guy. McDonalds doesn't even flip burgers anymore, they have a hot plate that comes down on the top of the patty. I worked at McD's in highschool, starting at $5.15 an hour.
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They've had the clamshell grill since at least 1994, when I spent a single summer of my high school life working at a toll road McDs. That grill does a good job at preventing raw meat and pumping out those patties like there's no tomorrow.

I'd prefer if they automate...my order won't be fucked up as much.
 
Chas said:
No man! Be a good little drone. Give the other good little drones all your money.
The money wants to be free man! You evil capitalist you!
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Hey, whether you come peacefully or against your will it will happen either way. Companies can't keep taking jobs away and the government can't expect itself to be sustainable the way it's going so whether it's a universal income or some other solution something needs to happen. The whole "get a job" shit isn't going to last much longer...it barely is applicable now. So rant and rave all you want, in the end you won't get your way. The rich shareholders of this country are in for a big surprise.
 
Mut1ny said:
Hey, whether you come peacefully or against your will it will happen either way. Companies can't keep taking jobs away and the government can't expect itself to be sustainable the way it's going so whether it's a universal income or some other solution something needs to happen. The whole "get a job" shit isn't going to last much longer...it barely is applicable now. So rant and rave all you want, in the end you won't get your way. The rich shareholders of this country are in for a big surprise.
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I love that you think this crap isn't being parroted from the 60s and 70s.
 
Chas said:
Actually, believe it or not, BK is in a rebuilding phase at the moment. Most of the buildings housing BKs are more than 20 years old.

About a dozen locations have closed around me in the last 5 years. So far, three of them have been torn down, and are now being rebuilt as newer BKs, with more on the way.
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They should rebuild their menu too, I can't think of another major fast-food franchise that I wouldn't rather eat at than Burger King. In fact, I'd buy a loaf of plain bread before I'd eat there.
 
Mut1ny said:
Hey, whether you come peacefully or against your will it will happen either way. Companies can't keep taking jobs away and the government can't expect itself to be sustainable the way it's going so whether it's a universal income or some other solution something needs to happen. The whole "get a job" shit isn't going to last much longer...it barely is applicable now. So rant and rave all you want, in the end you won't get your way. The rich shareholders of this country are in for a big surprise.
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You are delusional. If you think that the entire world is just going to do away with capitalism within your lifetime you are crazy.
Look at China, or Gina as Trump calls it. They are inching toward capitalism and even if they weren't try just NOT WORKING in China and see where it gets you.

"The whole "get a job" shit isn't going to last much longer"

Keep dreaming. Seriously you are so far out there it is hard not to laugh reading your rant.

I was going to try to reason with you but I think you and the other libs in this thread are beyond hope. So I will just give you this pic.

If you want to grow up and see the truth read Orwells 1984. You need it.


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But what if we refuse to hire millennials?
That is the way I am currently playing the averages.
 
Stiletto said:
You responded to a comment by talking about pure socialism and now you pretend it was just a random insight with no relation whatsoever to the comment you were responding to. Either you are so dense as to be classified autistic, or you're trolling. Either way, it's tedious.
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Your comment said NOTHING about Venezuela. Don't bitch at me for not reading your mind through a computer.
 
HardUp4HardWare said:
You are delusional. If you think that the entire world is just going to do away with capitalism within your lifetime you are crazy.
Look at China, or Gina as Trump calls it. They are inching toward capitalism and even if they weren't try just NOT WORKING in China and see where it gets you.

"The whole "get a job" shit isn't going to last much longer"

Keep dreaming. Seriously you are so far out there it is hard not to laugh reading your rant.
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I think you're misinterpreting him. He's saying there's not going to be enough jobs for everyone who needs one to "get a job." So of course people need jobs, that's not changing anytime soon. But saying "get a job" simply isn't going to be a solution for a lot of people who are trying to find one. That's only a solution for people sitting on their ass doing nothing, not people who are already out there actively trying to be part of the workforce.
 
Mut1ny said:
Hey, whether you come peacefully or against your will it will happen either way. Companies can't keep taking jobs away and the government can't expect itself to be sustainable the way it's going so whether it's a universal income or some other solution something needs to happen. The whole "get a job" shit isn't going to last much longer...it barely is applicable now. So rant and rave all you want, in the end you won't get your way. The rich shareholders of this country are in for a big surprise.
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Ah. The "our way is the future. Get onboard or get run over." argument.

Yeah. The hippies done good with Generation Wah.
 
No Tetris, there's not going to be enough stupid, grunt labor minimum wage jobs.

Meaning the bar to obtaining employment is going to be higher.
Meaning you need to stay in school, get occupational training and education wherever you can. Because the days of the "Just A Dumb Worker" are coming to an end.
 
We're quickly becoming a nation as was illustrated in the movie Idiocracy. We're moving in the exact opposite direction that a nation of information workers needs to. There's always going to be a need for low skilled jobs because our entire population can't have the skill set necessary for anything else. If they could, the jobs would only pay minimum wage.

We had a great manufacturing base in this country in the past that these people could thrive in but we've now outsourced it. We used illegal aliens for the lowest paying jobs like nannies and manual labor but now they also take the building trades jobs that used to pay a better union wage. We've also been importing legal foreign workers through the H1B Visa program during times of high unemployment just to keep wages flat or falling. The concepts of open trade and open borders is what's led to the current situation. These are both great for business but are horrible for workers. Your produced goods can be cheaper but wages are also going to be forever lowered and the diversity of the economy is now gone.

If you don't have a job, I'm sure a minimum wage jobs looks good. The problem is that the jobs that paid more than minimum wage have decreased in number. The answer isn't to increase the minimum wage but to increase the number of jobs that pay more than minimum wage. Increasing the minimum wage will just put more people on government assistance since the number of minimum wage jobs will now also decrease.

McDonalds will either decrease their labor force through automation and/or increase their product price of the minimum wage goes to $15/hr. The government should get out of the business of setting wages and setting rent pricing. Here's an idea, how about stopping section 8 housing in the most expensive places in the country and pay the moving expenses of people to go to less expensive places where there are move jobs? If you're making minimum wage and can't make it in California or NYC without government help, how about Arkansas or Kansas (just examples). If you have a smaller labor pool in an area, the labor price will go up so the minimum wage won't really be a factor. Stop the sanctuary state/city nonsense that adds illegals to the labor supply. Stop the H1B visa program that adds foreign workers to the labor supply. Stop the housing subsidies that allow those without jobs or poor paying jobs to exist in the most expensive areas of the country and it'll either become less expensive or wages will go up. Let the market decide what happens but make it the USA domestic market and not the global market. I'd rather pay more for a product because of tariffs if it meant a more diverse/healthy economy in this country. If it's consumed here, it should also be made here if possible.
 
It is so sad to see that we indeed have people who believes in socialism and argues passionately for it. It is very eye opening. I have always believed that name calling democrats as socialists were done more in jest but not anymore.

Demanding others to pitch in to support you smacks of entitlement. Even having that thought alone shows how weak you are. It's like you have never grown up and want mommy and daddy to take care of you forever. People like that should be terminated because they have no redeeming value to society.

At the very least, I like what my friend suggested: if you accept universal income for support, you have to sign an agreement to not have kids. To insure that happens, both man and woman will be sterilized and no adoptions allowed either.
 
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snowcrash said:
It is so sad to see that we indeed have people who believes in socialism and argues passionately for it. It is very eye opening. I have always believed that name calling democrats as socialists were done more in jest but not anymore.

Demanding others to pitch in to support you smacks of entitlement. Even having that thought alone shows how weak you are. It's like you have never grown up and want mommy and daddy to take care of you forever. People like that should be terminated because they have no redeeming value to society.

At the worst, I like what my friend suggested. If you accept universal income for support, you have to sign an agreement to not have kids. To insure that happens, both man and woman will be sterilized.
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This entire post is the definition of entitlement.
 
Yes, yes he is entitled to the fruits of his labors, his works of intelligence. Those begging for handouts should be prepared to trade something for it. Trading their ability to create more like themselves seems a fair trade for a free ride.
 
Chas said:
No Tetris, there's not going to be enough stupid, grunt labor minimum wage jobs.

Meaning the bar to obtaining employment is going to be higher.
Meaning you need to stay in school, get occupational training and education wherever you can. Because the days of the "Just A Dumb Worker" are coming to an end.
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I don't know if this is his point or not, but eventually most jobs will be automated. This isn't a liberal/conservative argument or even a socialist vs libertarian. It's just what's going to happen. Now maybe there will be new jobs, but those jobs will almost certainly require a college degree and probably an advanced degree.

There's already AI to perform legal research. I'm sure it's not as good as a top legal researcher, but we're at version 1.0 (at best). Maybe it's 50 or 100 years off, but it's going to happen. As I said earlier, even my right wing libertarian friend agrees that this is inevitable (which was a shock, since we rarely agree on anything).
 
snowcrash said:
It is so sad to see that we indeed have people who believes in socialism and argues passionately for it. It is very eye opening. I have always believed that name calling democrats as socialists were done more in jest but not anymore.

Demanding others to pitch in to support you smacks of entitlement. Even having that thought alone shows how weak you are. It's like you have never grown up and want mommy and daddy to take care of you forever. People like that should be terminated because they have no redeeming value to society.

At the very least, I like what my friend suggested: if you accept universal income for support, you have to sign an agreement to not have kids. To insure that happens, both man and woman will be sterilized and no adoptions allowed either.
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the Democratic party has a very wide umbrella of voters (as does the the Republican party). Most of the socialists are millennials and the probably 5% of older democrats. That's not to say that Democrats don't support a lot of social programs that conservatives consider socialism (though very few of them want to give up their SS or medicare), but almost all of the ones that want a revolution are under 30.

It's a huge change, IMO. Until last year, I considered my self a left winger (by U.S. standards) or center left by every other measure, but the younger voters are way too my left on fiscal issues...and it remains to be seen if they're going to compromise or if they're left wing tea baggers.
 
nilepez said:
the Democratic party has a very wide umbrella of voters (as does the the Republican party). Most of the socialists are millennials and the probably 5% of older democrats. That's not to say that Democrats don't support a lot of social programs that conservatives consider socialism (though very few of them want to give up their SS or medicare), but almost all of the ones that want a revolution are under 30.
It's a huge change, IMO. Until last year, I considered my self a left winger (by U.S. standards) or center left by every other measure, but the younger voters are way too my left on fiscal issues...and it remains to be seen if they're going to compromise or if they're left wing tea baggers.
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Same here. I'm still a registered democrat but according to most of my conservative friends, my yardstick has moved quite a bit now that I have a good job and income. I'm still extremely liberal in social issues (like I see racism everywhere and have no problem saying so) but when it comes to pretty much anything in regards to money, I have changed quite a bit. As my friends like to say, when you're young, you're idealistic and liberal. Once you start to grow older and make more money, the values change. They're quite right in that respect.
 
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Mut1ny said:
This entire post is the definition of entitlement.
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Hey. I busted my ass to get where I am.
I still bust my ass working every day.

So tell me why I'm supposed to help someone who isn't willing to work their ass off too.

And you want to talk about entitlement?
 
nilepez said:
I don't know if this is his point or not, but eventually most jobs will be automated. This isn't a liberal/conservative argument or even a socialist vs libertarian. It's just what's going to happen. Now maybe there will be new jobs, but those jobs will almost certainly require a college degree and probably an advanced degree.

There's already AI to perform legal research. I'm sure it's not as good as a top legal researcher, but we're at version 1.0 (at best). Maybe it's 50 or 100 years off, but it's going to happen. As I said earlier, even my right wing libertarian friend agrees that this is inevitable (which was a shock, since we rarely agree on anything).
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Maybe. And, maybe, at that point, we can look into some sort of default income.
But screaming "it's gonna happen EVENTUALLY so capitulate NOW" is a crappy argument.

Right now the job landscape is changing. Won't argue that.
But artificially overpaying people for unskilled jobs simply throws the economy out of whack and hastens job loss to automation before society is ready for it.
 
nilepez said:
and it remains to be seen if they're going to compromise or if they're left wing tea baggers.
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Given the way they've gone after other issues, I'm voting for "left wing tea baggers".
 
Chas said:
So "I want", get told no once, and quit.

Yeah. I can see why the job market is so terrible for ya!
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Do you take everything in your life so literally? Lighten up.

Chas said:
So tell me why I'm supposed to help someone who isn't willing to work their ass off too.
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What if people want to work but can't because there is no where to work? Why do all of you people think that everyone that isn't working are just some bum motherfuckers. This is America. We're supposed to care for one another and help each other out. That's what made this country what it is.
 
You know, when I was starting out with nothing, no degree, no experience, nothing....It was hard. I had to pay my dues and every job I got I learned and grew and matured.
I targeted what I thought was lucrative and decided I was going to try my best, respect my bosses and take nothing for granted. If I had a sucky low paying job I did it while I looked for something better.
And all along the way I thanked God for every job, promotion, raise and skill I learned. I paid my dues.

If I felt I wan't making enough money for what I did I asked for more or moved on.

I never expected to make a "living wage" whatever the hell that is. I made a fair market wage.

Welfare is a cultural cancer. I say abolish it and foodstamps. privatize SS and let people pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

If people want welfare we could open camps to house and feed them somewhere out in the dessert.
 
The simple fact is that eugenics works either passively or actively. I prefer the former because it doesn't numb us to killing.
 
HardUp4HardWare said:
If I have a business I should be able to set my starting wage based on what I think labor is worth, not be forced to pay what the corrupt asshole Government says I should pay.
If people don't like it they can work somewhere else. They have that freedom.
It is simple really. I can't understand why people don't get that.
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If people don't like a mandated wage floor they can run their business somewhere else. They have that freedom.

It is simple really. So simple that I hope you realize how childishly simple minded this argument is.
 
swimming pool said:
If people don't like a mandated wage floor they can run their business somewhere else. They have that freedom.

It is simple really. So simple that I hope you realize how childishly simple minded this argument is.
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Or, summarized: "Love it or leave it." How quaint.
 
Chas said:
Maybe. And, maybe, at that point, we can look into some sort of default income.
But screaming "it's gonna happen EVENTUALLY so capitulate NOW" is a crappy argument.

Right now the job landscape is changing. Won't argue that.
But artificially overpaying people for unskilled jobs simply throws the economy out of whack and hastens job loss to automation before society is ready for it.
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I don't think anyone was saying it's that way right now. Nevertheless, I don't see any reason why 12-15 bucks an hour (and $15.00/hour is typically brought in over several years) is not a big deal. It is roughly same wage that your parents or grand parents (depending on your age) were making 45-50 years ago if they got minimum wage. It sounds like a lot now, because Minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation for decades. A buck sixty in 1968 is 11 bucks today.

Walmart is now paying a bit more, but for decades, they underpaid employees and told them to get food stamps. That goes back at least 20 years, and maybe your cashiers were different than mine, but I rarely had high school students checking me out.
 
Chas said:
Given the way they've gone after other issues, I'm voting for "left wing tea baggers".
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If so, then we'll have Trump for POTUS. That's the only way he gets elected. I really won't know before August...maybe even September.
 
HardUp4HardWare said:
You know, when I was starting out with nothing, no degree, no experience, nothing....It was hard. I had to pay my dues and every job I got I learned and grew and matured.
I targeted what I thought was lucrative and decided I was going to try my best, respect my bosses and take nothing for granted. If I had a sucky low paying job I did it while I looked for something better.
And all along the way I thanked God for every job, promotion, raise and skill I learned. I paid my dues.

If I felt I wan't making enough money for what I did I asked for more or moved on.

I never expected to make a "living wage" whatever the hell that is. I made a fair market wage.

Welfare is a cultural cancer. I say abolish it and foodstamps. privatize SS and let people pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

If people want welfare we could open camps to house and feed them somewhere out in the dessert.
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Interesting, because when I was roughly 20, I made a living wage on Minimum. No roommate...just me in an apartment.
 
snowcrash said:
Same here. I'm still a registered democrat but according to most of my conservative friends, my yardstick has moved quite a bit now that I have a good job and income. I'm still extremely liberal in social issues (like I see racism everywhere and have no problem saying so) but when it comes to pretty much anything in regards to money, I have changed quite a bit. As my friends like to say, when you're young, you're idealistic and liberal. Once you start to grow older and make more money, the values change. They're quite right in that respect.
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I'm not sure if my values have changed. i'm just more pragmatic about what can happen right now. The fact that the left actually thinks Clinton is a conservative is laughable. They love to point to Europe (and I do that when dorks say Obama is a Socialist), but we're not Europe. Maybe we will be someday, but it doesn't matter. If you want to change things, you make incremental changes. It's how the system was designed 200+ years ago and it works, because it provides time for the middle to move in whatever direction. This country will move to the left over the next 30 years. It's inevitable. Millennials are on the left and they are the biggest generation, but it's not going to move over night. If they were pragmatic, they'd take what they get this election, vote in off year elections and local election and move the bar. They're just not there yet. For them, anything that goes against their beliefs, which right now means anything that's not pro-Bernie is bias, but the reality is Bernie ain't close to the middle. He's not far from me on a lot of issues, but I'm under no illusion that I'm in the mainstream and I don't care about getting everything I want. Frankly, I'd prefer a lefty that can work with those on the right. Of course that requires republicans to compromise and they've largely been unwilling to do that for the last 7 years.
 
snowcrash said:
Same here. I'm still a registered democrat but according to most of my conservative friends, my yardstick has moved quite a bit now that I have a good job and income. I'm still extremely liberal in social issues (like I see racism everywhere and have no problem saying so) but when it comes to pretty much anything in regards to money, I have changed quite a bit. As my friends like to say, when you're young, you're idealistic and liberal. Once you start to grow older and make more money, the values change. They're quite right in that respect.
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Evil Scooter said:
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Millennials like socialism — until they get jobs

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Consider yourself a libertarian.

Also, in general, Democrats are more racist - they're the ones constantly reminding people of their ethnicity and using it to manipulate voters. History backs this up (Lincoln, Civil Rights Act, etc.). As the great philosopher Snoop Dogg pointed out, "let's create our own @#$% that's based on today." Quit living in the past.
 
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