Dell 43 Ultra HD 4K Multi Client Monitor – P4317Q

I got one of these delivered today at work. Swapped out my Samsung UN40JU6500 for it.
A few things to note:
- The black levels on the Samsung are better.
- The matte finish is MUCH nicer for a work environment.
- Colors looked good, but I didn't have much time to compare. What would folks like me to test? I have access to a color calibrator.
- There appeared to be some unevenness in the back lighting.
- Initially it would only do 30hz on my desktop. Connected it to my SP4 and got 4K @ 60Hz 4:4:4. Switched to a different display port on my desktop and disconnect the other displays I had connected and I was able to select 60Hz. I didn't have much time to debug the issue, but it could be related the fact I'm running a pre-release OS.
 
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What's the incentive for these when we already have 40"+ IPS displays with Freesync and HDMI 2.0 for much less than this Dell?
 
What's the incentive for these when we already have 40"+ IPS displays with Freesync and HDMI 2.0 for much less than this Dell?
At it's retail price it's not great. From a business perspective it's a non glossy display that will work with the business class GPUs (including Intel) for a reasonable price, we weren't going to even consider these until Dell offered them for much less than retai. I wouldn't recommend this for home users unless you really want to use it as 4 x 1080P monitors in a single panel.
 
At it's retail price it's not great. From a business perspective it's a non glossy display that will work with the business class GPUs (including Intel) for a reasonable price, we weren't going to even consider these until Dell offered them for much less than retai. I wouldn't recommend this for home users unless you really want to use it as 4 x 1080P monitors in a single panel.
Are you allowed to say on here what the corporate price was? If no, can you PM me?
 
What are the best 40" IPS alternatives to this monitor? I tried a 4K Samsung tv as a monitor and liked the size and resolution but the glossy screen and VA panel didn't work for me. I'm in the market for a large 4K monitor but will only do an IPS display. This looked tempting but I'd be interested to hear about solid alternatives until we get some legit reviews on this monitor
 
What's the incentive for these when we already have 40"+ IPS displays with Freesync and HDMI 2.0 for much less than this Dell?
Not eating up a bunch of space and power(not to mention the heat output in some places) when you want 4 displays that don't need features people would be interested in for graphic design or gaming. You would be better served with a different monitor if you just want a large single 4k display.
 
Wasabi mango or bust? Large 4k market is failing hard right now for the average [H] user.
 
Wow, my Dell 3007WFP is almost 10 years old... I'll wait to see some reviews to see if an upgrade is warranted.

Mind you, I am sooo used to the bezels of my PLP setup, I am not sure I want to give it up.
 
I think the only way to go is to not use the stand, let the base of the monitor sit on your desk, and use a VESA stand. Otherwise the non-height-adjustable stand gives an undesirable upward offset.

What's are some of the good VESA stand for desk? not those wall mounting VESA.
 
I got mine a few weeks ago.. been using it for about 10 days.. love it. Initially the enormous size was a bit off putting but I've gotten used to it and I think it's fantastic.. I've played DS 3 and Doom at 4K with great results.. also did some Xbox One and PS4 @ 1080P and was impressed how good 1080P looks on this screen. I settled on 200% Text size for Windows 10 (Windows defaulted to 300% which was too big). I thought the stand might have some height adjustment but it doesn't.. it's basically a fixed stand with minimal tilt adjustment.

So the screen is matte right? Not Glossy like the Philip one? So if you return this Dell monitor, do they charge you restocking fee? where did you buy it from?
 
So the screen is matte right? Not Glossy like the Philip one? So if you return this Dell monitor, do they charge you restocking fee? where did you buy it from?
Correct, it has an anti-glare coating. I had been using one of the Samsung 40" TVs in my office and had to keep the lights down because of the glare. One of the best things about the Dell I was able to turn the lights back up to full brightness. My eyes are much happier. I'll have some time tomorrow evening to post pictures and test for image retention, etc. I'll see if I can also get the Samsung 40 positioned next to it for a comparison.
 
So much for this monitor. It takes about 60 seconds for image retention. It fades after several minutes and you can kick off LCD conditioning in the menu to get rid of it, but who wants to deal with that.
 
So much for this monitor. It takes about 60 seconds for image retention. It fades after several minutes and you can kick off LCD conditioning in the menu to get rid of it, but who wants to deal with that.

seriously? able to get any images of it? the philips bdm4350uc appears to have been removed from their website right now (suspected for the sane image burn in issue) but these are different panels.
 
seriously? able to get any images of it? the philips bdm4350uc appears to have been removed from their website right now (suspected for the sane image burn in issue) but these are different panels.
Here you go. This is after a couple minutes of having Skype for Business up on a dark background at factory settings.
 

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Found this built into the menu - It will run through single colors until you tell it to stop to clear image retention.
 

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thanks, this is a total let down!

im very tempted to pick up a cheap no-name from a local store that also has a no-quibble returns policy. see if it satisfies my requirments for a year or two whilst technology at this size rights itself.
 
Could anyone who received this already, answer a couple questions about it?
- Is it linux friendly to run the '4 monitor' setup?
- Does one video input power all 4 split monitors, or do you need a 1:1 ratio for different inputs?

Looking to set this up with my laptop if possible, but I'm limited on my outputs.
 
Could anyone who received this already, answer a couple questions about it?
- Is it linux friendly to run the '4 monitor' setup?
- Does one video input power all 4 split monitors, or do you need a 1:1 ratio for different inputs?

Looking to set this up with my laptop if possible, but I'm limited on my outputs.
I don't have a Linux machine handy to test, but I'll try to answer you questions.

When not in Picture By Picture mode the monitor will appear to be a single 4K display on any of the HDMI and DP inputs. When in any of the Picture By Picture modes each input will appear to be a 1080p display to the host computer.
Do you have a DP or Mini DP port on your laptop? If so it may work as a single display. Though when I connected a Mac Mini to it using Mini DP I could only select 4K @ 24Hz or 30Hz.
 
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Here is a pic of the Picture By Picture menu.
For some reason you can even set all of the inputs to the same source for 4 identical sub screens.
 

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Thank you so much!

I have a mini do on my XPS 13. Currently using a nice curved monitor, but if i have the option to split it to all 4 monitors it's a done deal!

When you connect your Mac does it let you split it into all 4 sections?
 
Thank you so much!

I have a mini do on my XPS 13. Currently using a nice curved monitor, but if i have the option to split it to all 4 monitors it's a done deal!

When you connect your Mac does it let you split it into all 4 sections?
To be clear you can only split if you make multiple connections from the same PC, (or multiple PCs). If you connect a single cable it's only a single monitor, either 4K or 1080P.

With the Mac Mini I tested with I could only make two connections. Even though I connection two inputs over Mini DP and one over HMDI, the Mac only saw two monitors.

Also, just in case you didn't see it above. This monitor has serious image retention issues. Everyone in the office was ready to buy one until we discovered the issue.
 
This monitor has serious image retention issues. Everyone in the office was ready to buy one until we discovered the issue.

I don't understand how we are having image retention/burn in issues with these so called "monitors". How can they honestly be pushing hardware targeted at desktop computer users that have that? So many things in the desktop world would cause these problems. The Dell is directly targeting the professional too. Just crazy imo.
 
I don't understand how we are having image retention/burn in issues with these so called "monitors". How can they honestly be pushing hardware targeted at desktop computer users that have that? So many things in the desktop world would cause these problems. The Dell is directly targeting the professional too. Just crazy imo.
I had no idea. It's baffling. If I bought this to watch stocks and dropped $1350 on it I'd be pissed, thankfully this is just an evaluation unit.
 
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Holy fuck. Dell targets multi panel users with a screen that suffers from burn in!? More TP Vision shit? No wonder they priced it high, so we wouldn't find out so quickly. That Phillips lemon being pulled is hilarious.
Sounds like both Dell and Phillips fucked up big time.

So really, the only remotely suitable 4k 40"+ monitor on the market at the moment is a budget Korean Wasabi Mango? Input lag aside it's not 'displaying' these issues of the Dell/Phillips. Uniformity is okay also.
 
I have another one on the way. I'll post an update once I have it. I'm really hoping the next one doesn't have the issue as I really liked the monitor otherwise.
 
Very troubling that the LG and Dell have the same awful retention problem being reported, while the panels may differ on the coatings they are probably coming out of the same process/plant, there are no other 42.5" out there...

Fuck, my work really needs monitor upgrades soon and other than this theres nothing but the same old shit we could've bought 3+ years ago. (buying tvs for desks or gamer monitors ain't gonna happen)
 
So let me get this straight. The business case is connect 4 inputs/clients because you are too stupid to size 4 app windows on your desktop?
 
So let me get this straight. The business case is connect 4 inputs/clients because you are too stupid to size 4 app windows on your desktop?
Well you could connect a Mac to 2 inputs and a PC to the other two or some mixture of the two.
Or connect 4 inputs to one PC and dock dashboards to each quadrant of all of the quadrants.
Personally I would just use it as a single 4K display. For that the price is high if you pay retail, but who pays retail?
 
Holy fuck. Dell targets multi panel users with a screen that suffers from burn in!? More TP Vision shit? No wonder they priced it high, so we wouldn't find out so quickly. That Phillips lemon being pulled is hilarious.
Sounds like both Dell and Phillips fucked up big time.

So really, the only remotely suitable 4k 40"+ monitor on the market at the moment is a budget Korean Wasabi Mango? Input lag aside it's not 'displaying' these issues of the Dell/Phillips. Uniformity is okay also.
What about the Seiki SM40UNP? It sounded average to above average when it originally came out, but compared to the newer releases we have been seeing in this size class it could very well be the best out there right now.

Seiki Pro SM40UNP 40"/ SM32UNP 30"4K LED Monitors
Amazon.com: Seiki Pro SM40UNP 40.0-Inch 4K LED-Lit Monitor: Computers & Accessories
 
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What about the Seiki SM40UNP? It sounded average to above average when it originally came out, but compared to the newer releases we have been seeing in this size class it could very well be the best out there right now.

Seiki Pro SM40UNP 40"/ SM32UNP 30"4K LED Monitors
Amazon.com: Seiki Pro SM40UNP 40.0-Inch 4K LED-Lit Monitor: Computers & Accessories


That's probably a much better way to go for most users Dell targets...
But 6 bit for content creation is pushing it though. I'd have to see one in person to see if the dithering tricks make up for it. Side by side is the ultimate truth. IPS vs competitor..
 
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That's probably a much better way to go for most users Dell targets...
But 6 bit for content creation is pushing it though. I'd have to see one in person to see if the dithering tricks make up for it. Side by side is the ultimate truth. IPS vs competitor..
The spec sheet on the manufacturer website says it is 1.07 billion colors, which is either 8-bit+FRC or 10-bit.
http://seiki.com/sites/default/files/product-files/SM40UNP_PROD_SHEET.PDF

It is an S-MVA panel, though, meaning you'll have to deal with contrast shift.
 
It is an S-MVA panel, though, meaning you'll have to deal with contrast shift.

Interesting but really have to see it in person, which is hard in my tiny country, hopefully in EU/US soon can look then. Phillips 40" was okay for contrast but in a bright shop at high brightness.. just not a huge fan of contrast shift after IPS and oled spoilt me.
 
I was wondering if it is possible that someone write a program that runs a small circle of colors that would sweep through the screen, left to right, top to bottom, it would be a small circle so it would not be too distracting or get in the way of work, but it would run continuously. That would prevent a static image from staying in any one part of the screen for too long. And then voila, no more burn-in and problem is solved.
 
I was wondering if it is possible that someone write a program that runs a small circle of colors that would sweep through the screen, left to right, top to bottom, it would be a small circle so it would not be too distracting or get in the way of work, but it would run continuously. That would prevent a static image from staying in any one part of the screen for too long. And then voila, no more burn-in and problem is solved.
It would be like a constantly moving stuck pixel. It would be rather annoying. It would be easier to set a screen saver on a 1 minute delay :)
BTW I'm 2 for 2 on image retention with these monitors. The second one Dell sent me is slightly less obvious, but still has the issue. So far the image retention is just temporary. Depending on how you use your monitor it can be difficult to notice. I set it up to mirror my Samsung today and used it for a half hour and had to really look to find image retention... until I hid the task bar.

Here is an example of what having a window open for 10 minutes will do.
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Dell is at least being awesome trying to resolve this. They overnighted a replacement, they are capturing the first monitor for engineering to take a look at, and will stop by and take a look at the second monitor in person.
 
Slightly off the topic. But a 43 inch 4K monitor for just 1300$? I hope this is not a joke. What kind of gaming experience will one feel in this display?
 
Slightly off the topic. But a 43 inch 4K monitor for just 1300$? I hope this is not a joke. What kind of gaming experience will one feel in this display?
Who pays full retail for Dell monitors? Both my U3011's were under a grand when I bought them even though retail was $1599 at the time.

Let's assume they resolve the issue. Just wait till there is a coupon or Newegg sale and pick one up for less than $900. Though this isn't really a gaming monitor.
 
That's much worse than the Philips 43" (at least my one). That's just crazy.
Yeah it's disappointing. I was so happy when I first set it up too. I'm hoping Dell will figure out a fix for these as this is a perfect productivity monitor if they do.
 
So let me get this straight. The business case is connect 4 inputs/clients because you are too stupid to size 4 app windows on your desktop?

If you are so simple that you cannot imagine more than your own personal computer setup, yes it might seem that way. :rolleyes:

For places with multiple segregated networks and tons of computers/thin clients/etc, it could be pretty nice. Nobody buying this will be paying full price either, but it definitely cannot have the awful image retention.
 
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