The GTX 1080 Is Real

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collegeboy69us said:
If you wanted to retain as much value for the 980ti you should have sold it about 2 weeks ago when everyone knew nothing about where things were going. Not trying to be rude, but just how the economics of tech worked. I sold off my xfire 290 setup 1+ month ago for the very same reason. (backup gaming on 970m via display port)

Edit: On the flipside, if you don't need the bleeding edge, wait a few more weeks and pickup a 980ti for $100 less than what they are going for now. My guess is that a 980ti will fall at or below where the 1070 sits MSRP.
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Oh I know, but still could stem the flow. I'm esp interested in the sale value as I never bother with SLI anymore due to the amount of issues with games I had, so a better single card is very interesting. Don't have to be that bleeding edge anymore though, so might wait for next round of cards.
 
Selling right now up through next month is the worst time to sell your 980 Ti / TITAN X. Back when the Fury X dropped I bought a 290X for dirt and sold it for $100 more than that price about a month ago. It would have been better two weeks ago, sure...but you may as well just hang onto your card(s) and wait for benches on May 17.

Another thing to remember: 20-30% performance increase is great but it will not revolutionize your experience if you're coming from a 980 Ti / TITAN X. You will feel a bit of disappointment. Especially if you got $300/card for your old stuff.
 
wow
Price/ Performance just keeps getting better and better... thanks declining PC market!
 
700 for a card with air cooling is a bit rich for my blood. Going to keep my water cooled 980 Tis unless the performance is at least 30% higher than 980 Ti OC.
 
sk3tch said:
Selling right now up through next month is the worst time to sell your 980 Ti / TITAN X. Back when the Fury X dropped I bought a 290X for dirt and sold it for $100 more than that price about a month ago. It would have been better two weeks ago, sure...but you may as well just hang onto your card(s) and wait for benches on May 17.

Another thing to remember: 20-30% performance increase is great but it will not revolutionize your experience if you're coming from a 980 Ti / TITAN X. You will feel a bit of disappointment. Especially if you got $300/card for your old stuff.
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Thanks very much! I'll just swallow any loss I think, as you say probably better to wait and leave money in the bank until its more substantial an upgrade and also see how much the Ti is really worth after real benchmarks hit.

I'm excited for the benchmarks would like to see how it goes with DX12 stuff that was running better on AMD.
 
If I already had a 980ti in my rig, I'd be on the fence as well... I game at 1440 and from what I hear it would handle everything just fine. Since I was working with 290's --- ehhhh it's totally worth the wait and cash to get back under a solid single card solution. I anticipate the 1080 holding me over for a few years easy. Since I'm fully invested in 1440p with my monitor setup, the 1080 shall be my lasting crown jewel :)
 
sk3tch said:
Another thing to remember: 20-30% performance increase is great but it will not revolutionize your experience if you're coming from a 980 Ti / TITAN X. You will feel a bit of disappointment. Especially if you got $300/card for your old stuff.
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Definitely this, when you take into account that it's not unreasonable to assume that the card on display in the presser is the card referenced in the slides. If that's the case, then the slide are showing a 1080 with a 20%+ overclock already on it. That's what is actually 20-30% faster than a stock Titan X. So be prepared for your OC'd 1080 to only be 5-10% faster than your OC'd 980ti.
 
Blackfyre1987 said:
Thanks very much! I'll just swallow any loss I think, as you say probably better to wait and leave money in the bank until its more substantial an upgrade and also see how much the Ti is really worth after real benchmarks hit.

I'm excited for the benchmarks would like to see how it goes with DX12 stuff that was running better on AMD.
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Big Pascal is coming next year, jumping on every single new card is really not worth it.
 
I bought an Oculus Rift, and it's here.....can someone sum up for me the whole "VR Improvement" thing that is supposed to step on the 980 Ti's implementation (the card I'm currently using)...?? Or point me to a link plz??
 
HeadRusch said:
I bought an Oculus Rift, and it's here.....can someone sum up for me the whole "VR Improvement" thing that is supposed to step on the 980 Ti's implementation (the card I'm currently using)...?? Or point me to a link plz??
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It's pretty impressive looking. To put it simply it gives you the correct perspective at those large fovs.
 
jbc029 said:
Definitely this, when you take into account that it's not unreasonable to assume that the card on display in the presser is the card referenced in the slides. If that's the case, then the slide are showing a 1080 with a 20%+ overclock already on it. That's what is actually 20-30% faster than a stock Titan X. So be prepared for your OC'd 1080 to only be 5-10% faster than your OC'd 980ti.
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I dunno, if you pay 200 for a 1080 (after selling old hardware) at launch that's not bad. 30% performance jump for less than a 970/390. I won't argue that big Pascal and Vega would be way more worth it though.
I'm waiting on Polaris before deciding anything though. That might be the card to get when building pcs for friends and family if the price perf rumors end up being true. We've got an interesting 4 months ahead of us gents.
 
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Imhotep said:
LOL, You don't say...I find it extremely reassuring and comforting now that you are a staff member. How could they not be objective. Sarcasm aside. Something tells me that VR will go down the same path 3D Tv's have gone.
It is of course just my opinion, but I am willing to bet my left nut that changing peoples perception is very hard.
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There is a huge difference between 3D tv and VR. 3D TV was an OK effect, but not mind blowing. My TV supports it but I never use it. The content isn't good enough to warrant wearing uncomfortable glasses.
VR, on the other hand, is amazing and mind-blowing. The first time someone puts on the Oculus Rift and tries it out, you usually see a giant smile on their face.
The problem: not much content, hardware is too expensive, and can you get enough people to try it out to sustain the initial vendor wave?
 
Nihilus1 said:
GDDR5x seems very immature right now. Some expected it to double GDDR5 performance out of the gate but most knew better. Still, I am suprised that the 256 bit GDDR5x on the 1080 can't match the bandwidth of the 384 bit GDDR5 on the 980ti.

These cards look amazing. I still think it is funny that an HD 7970 has the best dual precision performance to date. What's up with that?
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At first, I was surprised too but then it made sense since they were primarily comparing it to the 980. A Ti version of the 1080 will probably come out that has the 384bit memory bus or better.
 
N4CR said:
It's almost a paper launch for the 1070 + 1080, with the 'I'm an idiot paying for a reference $100 blower cooler edition' being the only card immediately available next month. I can hear the cream churning from here.
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It's not "almost" a paper launch. It is absolutely a paper launch, because I can't buy a card today.
 
jwcalla said:
If the 1080 Ti / Titan Whatever is based on GP100 and comes out late this year / early next year then it will probably have HBM2.
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Forgot about that. I thought it was proposed that the next gen would already have HBM2 but I suppose something happened which is why they announced the 1080 with GDDR5X. Regardless, I'm looking forward to the flagship.
 
Quix said:
Big Pascal is coming next year, jumping on every single new card is really not worth it.
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There will be those who will as some people always want the next best thing and if they have the money, why not. (y)
 
schizo said:
It's not "almost" a paper launch. It is absolutely a paper launch, because I can't buy a card today.
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Fair call! I said 'almost' to avoid the semantics brigade - some say it's a 'release' where product is confirmed available at a later date, paper launch is e.g. the early pro duo board shots we saw last year with the end of year launch BS...

That said, I personally consider anything paper launch, until it lands on shelves.
 
Figure it's likely sometime away before the Ti drops so I'm all in for 1080 as soon as I can get one. Bump from 970 should be pretty damn sweet.
 
We've been hearing all about AMD's "death knell/nail" with every new Nvidia release for a decade now. And it was ATi's "death knell/nail" prior to that. Yet they're still around and still putting out good hardware.
 
amd isn't going anywhere any time soon. they've diversified enough to keep going. I say death to the rumor of AMD's death!
 
If Jen-Hsun really wants to impress me what he'll do is get up there on that stage one day and explain to us all what Nvidia is doing to make PC gaming no longer the red-headed bastard stepchild of developers.

Some times I get excited about these GPUs until I remember that practically every game shipping is a half-broken pile of consolitis crap.
 
jwcalla said:
If Jen-Hsun really wants to impress me what he'll do is get up there on that stage one day and explain to us all what Nvidia is doing to make PC gaming no longer the red-headed bastard stepchild of developers.

Some times I get excited about these GPUs until I remember that practically every game shipping is a half-broken pile of consolitis crap.
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I think PC players just need to be smarter about what they buy. For every half-broken pile of crap, there is an amazing, well crafted PC optimized game. People just keep buying the latest EA-Ubi-clones expecting things to be "different this time". There's a lot of good shit to play on the PC.

On the actual topic here... I'm definitely picking up a 1070. Looks like a perfect upgrade for my 970. I play at 1080 right now, and the 1070 looks perfect for that. (I'm more of a crank up all available options at a lower screen resolution with higher frame rates sort of person...)
 
While I am very hyped for the release of this card I'm going to wait for third party gaming benchmarks as I've been hearing claims of outrageous speed increases, for both new CPUs and GPUs which then turn outs be really be only 10-15% difference once it's actually released and tested, by [H] and others.
 
J3RK said:
I think PC players just need to be smarter about what they buy. For every half-broken pile of crap, there is an amazing, well crafted PC optimized game.
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Close.
For every FIVE half-broken piles of crap, there is an amazing, well crafted PC optimized game.
 
rinaldo00 said:
Close.
For every FIVE half-broken piles of crap, there is an amazing, well crafted PC optimized game.
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Ok, ok... point is though that there are still plenty to play, especially for the last few, and next few months it seems.
 
J3RK said:
I think PC players just need to be smarter about what they buy. For every half-broken pile of crap, there is an amazing, well crafted PC optimized game. People just keep buying the latest EA-Ubi-clones expecting things to be "different this time". There's a lot of good shit to play on the PC.

On the actual topic here... I'm definitely picking up a 1070. Looks like a perfect upgrade for my 970. I play at 1080 right now, and the 1070 looks perfect for that. (I'm more of a crank up all available options at a lower screen resolution with higher frame rates sort of person...)
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I have to agree, there are plenty of great games on PC whose graphics and control are great on the PC, but people tend to forget the good ones but always remember the screwed up games.
 
Quix said:
Big Pascal is coming next year, jumping on every single new card is really not worth it.
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Really? I thought big Pascal was the GP100 non-consumer chip? Is there going to be a better Pascal based card next year? If so I may as well wait until then to look to upgrade my 980Ti
 
Big pascal we don't know if its GP100 (p100) or they removing the DP units, and creating a new chip, but that will come out in end of 2016, early 2017
 
razor1 said:
Big pascal we don't know if its GP100 (p100) or they removing the DP units, and creating a new chip, but that will come out in end of 2016, early 2017
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Hmmm I wouldn't have thought it would have been out that soon after these first Pascal chips? TBH I would have expected 12-18 months before the next round of cards from Nvidia (aside from 1080Ti).
 
well last full chip launch was 6 months after the performance chip (gm204 to gm200), this time the mass production of HBM 2 is set for end of this year so it seems likely they will keep to the same schedule.
 
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