HTC 10

By "how that went" do you mean that every major flagship started adopting larger pixels sizes?

No, more like how they took a beating from the press/public for their camera results. I thought the idea had some merit and some definite upsides but my old M7 was never a great camera phone, so obviously something could have been done better.
 
No, more like how they took a beating from the press/public for their camera results. I thought the idea had some merit and some definite upsides but my old M7 was never a great camera phone, so obviously something could have been done better.


The HTC One Review

When I heard that HTC was taking their camera this direction, I was incredibly excited. Not only is this completely bucking the camera trend that just about every other OEM seems satisfied with marching down just for marketability reasons, it’s actually sound science and possibly the best way to end the megapixel myth in the smartphone space.

It wasn't all bad.

Most people probably never crop their photos or zoom to any degree.

Granted the purple tint issue was bullshit.
 
Luckily I'm on JoD T-Mobile, but that $699 price is crazy IMO, compared to the Nexus 6P can be had brand new for $449. I would never pay $600+ for a smartphone, that's absurd. When the Nexus phone is almost every bit as good hardware wise, and better software wise. But with the 6P being 1/3rd cheaper, I would still recommend that over any new flagship today, price being a main reason.

Or the S7 Edge being what $750, that's insane, and the iPhone 6S Plus being like $800 LOL, who the F would pay those crazy price for a smartphone ? When the Nexus 6P is so much cheaper, and really near as good.

Way too many god damn idiots. They did the financing bit and people are running around financing cell phones like they are god damn cars or houses. Bring back the locked in carrier subsidization and give me top tier cell phones for $150-$200 again. Ugggh. I'm going to probably use my broken-ass G4 for another year before I give into this crap. $350 is even too much. Get at me when there's decent smart phones for $200 again.
 
Way too many god damn idiots. They did the financing bit and people are running around financing cell phones like they are god damn cars or houses. Bring back the locked in carrier subsidization and give me top tier cell phones for $150-$200 again. Ugggh. I'm going to probably use my broken-ass G4 for another year before I give into this crap. $350 is even too much. Get at me when there's decent smart phones for $200 again.
But then you pay more monthly on your bill for the same plan. Its basically a wash in the end..
 
Yeah, that's the thing -- the subsidized plans were illusory. You were paying for the phone through your bill the entire time, even if you held on to your phone for more than 2 years. So long as your carrier actually drops the monthly rate accordingly, you're not paying more than you were before. And if you were already a fan of unlocked phones, you're finally saving money.
 
I'm struggling with that as well. I know I can wait a month or two and pick one up from Swappa for under $500 but I can get a gently used Nexus 6P 64gb right now from Swappa for under $450 and is the 10 worth the premium over the 6P.

Not that I need another phone, but new releases always make me think about it. I think I'll just keep the 6s Plus until the fall.

What if the LG G5 is $470 right now, T-Mobile?
 
I will most likely do the T-Mobile JoD for the 10, and trade back my Note 5
 
One of the big bonuses of the HTC is the touch screen's responsiveness. My chief complaint with my S7 Edge is the quirky, hypersensitivity of its screen, especially the edges. Drives me nuts when I constantly open apps or resize widgets by accident. I hope it's not an issue with the 10.
 
One of the big bonuses of the HTC is the touch screen's responsiveness. My chief complaint with my S7 Edge is the quirky, hypersensitivity of its screen, especially the edges. Drives me nuts when I constantly open apps or resize widgets by accident. I hope it's not an issue with the 10.

That really is a big deal, makes the everyday use just that much smoother and better.

Plus I'm sure the Developer support and ROM's should really turn this into an even better device.
 
That really is a big deal, makes the everyday use just that much smoother and better.

Plus I'm sure the Developer support and ROM's should really turn this into an even better device.
Hope you're right. I plan on JUMPing to the 10, too, unless the Note 6 just blows away all expectations. Root/ROM is cool, but not a deal-breaker for me. Nova Launcher and Package Disabler Pro kills the wretched Samsung bloatware and other crap that gets in the way.
 
One of the big bonuses of the HTC is the touch screen's responsiveness. My chief complaint with my S7 Edge is the quirky, hypersensitivity of its screen, especially the edges. Drives me nuts when I constantly open apps or resize widgets by accident. I hope it's not an issue with the 10.
This was fixed on my T-Mo S7 edge, been working fine for me since the update. Then again, it was working pretty well before the update for me, so... Take it for what it's worth.
 
This was fixed on my T-Mo S7 edge, been working fine for me since the update. Then again, it was working pretty well before the update for me, so... Take it for what it's worth.
When did you get that update? I'm with T-mo, to, but nuthin' for me so far.
 
Yeah, that's the thing -- the subsidized plans were illusory. You were paying for the phone through your bill the entire time, even if you held on to your phone for more than 2 years. So long as your carrier actually drops the monthly rate accordingly, you're not paying more than you were before. And if you were already a fan of unlocked phones, you're finally saving money.

This. I cannot imagine why anyone would defend the carrier subsidy model. It's parasitic to the consumer and does not result in any savings.
 
Interadasting.. the 10's NAND gets a bit slower reads, but considerably faster writes than Samsung's UFS 2.0 storage. Their battery life tests are kinda confusing though; they have two different web browsing tests for WiFi, where the 10 wins and loses one (to the S7 - its main competitor), but it loses on their "last generation web browsing test". Is that relevant or as accurate than their current one? If not, then why include it? Seems like it's pretty much the same, if not a bit better than the S7 in real-world use and from what I've gathered from other reviews.

Also, TWRP is already out for the 10 before it has launched. I wonder if all the XDA devs will pretty much be migrating to this and the Nexus phones now since all the other SD820 phones are on lock down now.
 
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The last generation test basically didn't involve scrolling. So it favors faster collapse to low power phones but that's generally not realistic. The next generation test is definitely more accurate to real life.

The UFS thing was expected to me. Everyone seemed to make a big deal out of it but the limitation is usually the NAND itself for high end phones. It's like trumpeting SATA 3 over SATA 1 in the age of physical HDD's; it simply isn't a significant bottleneck in many scenarios.
 
I have the T-Mobile Note 5, still on Lollipop, which has a 3,000mAh and I get routinely 5.5h Screen On time daily, sometimes 6h. I know the processor is vastly different, but I think the SD820 is somewhat maybe similar to the Exynos 7420 in terms of efficiency ? The HTC 10 has a 3,000mAh battery, can I say they may get close to similar battery life ?
 
I really like my HTC m8, except for un-installable junkware. I guess most phones/carriers have this problem, but my co-worker has me convinced the Nexus will be my next choice.
 
I really like my HTC m8, except for un-installable junkware. I guess most phones/carriers have this problem, but my co-worker has me convinced the Nexus will be my next choice.
Don't forget rooting, and using Custom Roms. I would wait to see if the HTC 10 gets rooted. But the new version on sense looks to be close to stock 6.0.1 MM you will get besides Motorola aka Lenvo now..
 
What if the LG G5 is $470 right now, T-Mobile?

I have zero interest in he G5. I appreciate the fact that they are going outside the box but it appears that they rushed it and released the G5 before they were ready.

HTC 10 looks very nice but in the end does it or S7, G5, 6P, etc. give me any noticeable improvements in day-to-day use over my 6s Plus? From what I have experienced with the 6P and S7, that would be a no.

If you are upgrading to a current flagship from something like an S4 then it's a huge improvement.

For me though, I was always chasing the next big thing. Very similar to my PC habit I the past. I used to build anew rig every year, just because. Then I went to every other year with the Intel tick/tock. Then I upgraded one machine with an SSD and realized that was the single largest upgrade I ever made on my PC and the single largest improvement in day-to-day use on my PC.

The current batch of Amat phones are excellent in most every aspect so much so that it comes down to what you like and feel most comfortable with.

If I find a used phone for a great price, I'll buy it and try it but in most cases just end up flipping it as it is not a remarkably better experience.

I guess I am just getting complacent with most things as (in my case at least) you get older your needs and wants kind of mesh as you can afford your wants now but you find out what you want is not necessarily what you need.
 
For much of what radeon962 said, I kind of would like to see how Android N does multi-window support before I switch back to Android. But maybe next version of iOS would expand multiwindow support to phones too.

Cause what I REALLY need is a dual sim phone... Cause then I wouldn't have to carry two phones for international travel. I'm glad that TMo has free international data roaming but the speeds sometimes are simply too slow. Sometimes I do need to make voice calls, and voice chat/VoIP services like Line, etc, are dependent on the data speeds.

On another note, I heard that the HTC's "10" is actually meant to be read in binary as in "Two"
 
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If I find a used phone for a great price, I'll buy it and try it but in most cases just end up flipping it as it is not a remarkably better experience.

I agree the full price G5 is a non-starter. But for $200 less it is kind of interesting. There are businesses selling the sealed G5 for cheap, like their store shelves are in the sale pics. New 32GB (with SD expandability) ones actually going under the Nexus 6P price and some people don't want a 5.7" phone.
I'm not sure what their source is and the margin, but they have their reputation systems.

But this is the HTC thread and the 10 is definitely not rushed, it's more polished in software, audio, and literally smoother, unpainted metal.

I think a Snapdragon 652 4.7" HTC would also do really well for a lower cost. Get it close to stock like 2013 Moto X or G.

Some Android news junkies are intrigued with a Xiaomi Mi 5 for $410 and importing it, bands, etc. are a big mess.
 
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I agree the full price G5 is a non-starter. But for $200 less it is kind of interesting. There are businesses selling the sealed G5 for cheap, like their store shelves are in the sale pics. New 32GB (with SD expandability) ones actually going under the Nexus 6P price and some people don't want a 5.7" phone.
I'm not sure what their source is and the margin, but they have their reputation systems.

But this is the HTC thread and the 10 is definitely not rushed, it's more polished in software, audio, and literally smoother, unpainted metal.

I think a Snapdragon 652 4.7" HTC would also do really well for a lower cost. Get it close to stock like 2013 Moto X or G.

Some Android news junkies are intrigued with a Xiaomi Mi 5 for $410 and importing it, bands, etc. are a big mess.

I honestly don't know whats good about Xiaomi phones, they are cheap, and problematic. Why even bother? The software is bloated and slow, and camera if not one of the worst for its price, overheating issues, then LTE band support to none existence outside of China.
 
I wonder what the price will be for this on T-Mo, normally the carriers are at least a tad cheaper than the unlocked/full retail versions, I think. I'm thinking about just getting the 6P now when I switch over. If I can catch them on a sale or something like they have been recently, a 64GB 6P at $500 seems like a bit better value to me, esp. when I can get 6 months interest free financing through Best Buy and make it easier to pay off over a few months instead of swallowing the $500 pill at once. Or actually I just checked Swappa and there's tons of mint 64GB 6Ps going for $400-$450 right now.

Reviews are saying the speakers aren't as good as most other's stereo speakers now and I think I'll miss that a lot coming from my M8. I'm already giving up my IR blaster since no other OEM besides LG is using them anymore, I don't want to lose my speakers too. Hmm..
 
HTC store accepts PayPal. Which depending on whether you use the coupon you could pay off interest free in 3 months or 6 months.
 
I have a Droid Turbo v1. 1.5 yo now.. feels a bit long in the tooth. On Verizon. its either HTC 10.. or a S7 I guess... are there Nexus Phones for VZ. a vanilla phone would be optimal..
 
Just picked up the 10 with VZW

Something is off with the screen has that slight rainbow red/green shimmer. Almost like old Motorola phones maybe? Bionic and old flip phones comes to mind.

What kills me, store display model, to my eyes has a different panel. Has a purer white level and virtually no shimmer except at steep viewing angles.

Anyone else pick one up and have same thoughts?
 
I almost bought a VZW htc 10... Let me know how your situation goes please
 
I'm looking for any user reviews of the HTC 10. I've had enough of my S7 edge's quirky screen and ID scanner.
 
What's up with the screen on your edge?
It's been problematic since I bought it. First one developed a bright green line from top to bottom. The replacement is way too sensitive. I'm constantly launching apps or resizing widgets by accident.
 
Just picked up the 10 with VZW

Something is off with the screen has that slight rainbow red/green shimmer. Almost like old Motorola phones maybe? Bionic and old flip phones comes to mind.

What kills me, store display model, to my eyes has a different panel. Has a purer white level and virtually no shimmer except at steep viewing angles.

Anyone else pick one up and have same thoughts?

I've seen some reviews and comments about this as well. Apparently it has something to do with the adhesive/glue on the display or something and the color shift goes away as it cures. I also read that if you keep the display on max brightness, it will help it cure faster, which might explain why the store's display model looked better.
 
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I've seen since reviews and comments about this as well. Apparently it has something to do with the adhesive/glue on the display or something and the color shift goes away as it cures. I also read that if you keep the display on max brightness, it will help it cure faster, which might explain why the store's display model looked better.
Thanks for this I somehow didn't catch it in reviews. I was so impressed last week when I saw the store display I didn't even bother digging into display details in the reviews.
 
I've seen some reviews and comments about this as well. Apparently it has something to do with the adhesive/glue on the display or something and the color shift goes away as it cures. I also read that if you keep the display on max brightness, it will help it cure faster, which might explain why the store's display model looked better.
Place the phone between your thighs when you lay down for bed. That should really speed things along.
 
Place the phone between your thighs when you lay down for bed. That should really speed things along.
The way I feel bout this thing at the moment. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

In all honesty what's this BS come to where you have to burn in your screen now?
 
Place the phone between your thighs when you lay down for bed. That should really speed things along.

The way I feel bout this thing at the moment. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

In all honesty what's this BS come to where you have to burn in your screen now?

He's actually right. Because the heat from maxing the brightness out on the phone is what helps cure the glue, not the light itself.

Here's an XDA post explaining it.
 
We also get this when new iPhones are launched with all the people going "OMG QA ISSUES!" and then nothing comes of it because after some use, the glue cures and nothing is wrong.
 
Is it not troubling that glue must cure on a newly purchased phone before its screen is fully functional?
 
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