Gtx 1080 benchmarked

Roughly equal in performance to an overclocked 980ti
 
So about the same increase in performance from a 780 Ti to a 980 if this is true. Doesn't exactly blow one's socks off unless it's priced right. I'll be eagerly awaiting the HBM2 chips.
 
Armenius said:
So about the same increase in performance from a 780 Ti to a 980 if this is true. Doesn't exactly blow one's socks off. I'll be eagerly awaiting the HBM2 chips.
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Less than that, 780ti to 980 was a much bigger jump imo, power of 2 structure is intact I don't think you'll see the same delta at all.

Funny saying that and thinking that wasn't even a process change.
 
Ieldra said:
Less than that, 780ti to 980 was a much bigger jump imo, power of 2 structure is intact I don't think you'll see the same delta at all.

Funny saying that and thinking that wasn't even a process change.
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Considering the new architecture, that is exactly why I say it doesn't blow your socks off. It's still a decent generational jump, all things considering. Plus, it is getting better performance on a 300 mm² die area compared to 600 mm².
 
I definitely wouldn't expect much from the 10x0 cards. IMHO they are just a intermediary release while they wait for sufficient quantities of HBM2 memory to be available.
 
viscountalpha said:
Hopefully this pushes the price down some for a 980 or 980ti
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Only on the used market, both the 980 and 980TI are already discontinued and they're just selling off stock now. Most will likely be gone by the time the new cards hit.
 
Hmmmm. If that holds true, that's a big 'ol "nope" from me. At this point, my next card needs to be a 1-card 4K solution. I've already got 1080p more or less covered with my OC'd 980 GTX.
 
I've been really disappointed in the incremental steps in performance with GPUs lately. Going from a 7900gtx to an 8800gtx is still fresh in my mind, so seeing how little GPUs improve with each new release makes it hard to get excited about anything video card related anymore.
 
Domingo said:
Hmmmm. If that holds true, that's a big 'ol "nope" from me. At this point, my next card needs to be a 1-card 4K solution. I've already got 1080p more or less covered with my OC'd 980 GTX.
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breaking the 4k60hz wall requires at least 2x390/970 kind of perf, thats like 60-70% over 980Ti performance, if vega and next titan chips are ~450mm², we could have ourselves a single GPU 4k capable, one thing is sure it's not for this first line up,.
enthusiasts should just skip this line up for the next one, besides it wont be that far behind, around 6 months.
 
AltTabbins said:
I've been really disappointed in the incremental steps in performance with GPUs lately. Going from a 7900gtx to an 8800gtx is still fresh in my mind, so seeing how little GPUs improve with each new release makes it hard to get excited about anything video card related anymore.
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7900gtx 8800gtx is like 980/1080

Very big improvement
 
Ieldra said:
7900gtx 8800gtx is like 980/1080

Very big improvement
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The 8800gtx was 75-100% faster than the 7900gtx, I can all but guarantee that the 1080 wont be anywhere near that. Not to mention that the 7900gtx was the flagship model, the 980 is a step down from the Ti. So comparing the two would be like comparing the 7900gt and the 8800gtx.
 
AltTabbins said:
The 8800gtx was 75-100% faster than the 7900gtx, I can all but guarantee that the 1080 wont be anywhere near that. Not to mention that the 7900gtx was the flagship model, the 980 is a step down from the Ti. So comparing the two would be like comparing the 7900gt and the 8800gtx.
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Not sure I follow.

This replaces the 980.

A stock 980 is at 1200mhz boost

50% higher clocks
25% higher shader count
50% more bandwidth
 
Ieldra said:
Not sure I follow.

This replaces the 980.

A stock 980 is at 1200mhz boost

50% higher clocks
25% higher shader count
50% more bandwidth
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But that wont add up to 80-100% more performance. Higher clocks =/= better performance in all cases. Just looking at the early benchmarks, even if the 1080 is as fast as a highly overclocked 980ti, its still only going to be 40-50% faster (at best).
 
I posted this elsewhere, but I think people had their hopes too high for the 1080 =( They followed the same structure as they always have, 10-15% faster than a previous gen Ti, better efficiency and lower out of the gate cost. Probably a few added features. What I noticed was, they can produce twice as many GPU's this go around (300mm vs 600mm) which makes sense from Nvidia's end. Just wish they had pushed it a bit further and went for 25-30% increase. But let's wait and see what the mem comp and other items they release involve. Probably newer boost management as well. I'm guessing mobile is going to rebrand to 10xx series? That 980 mobile is cool, and I love my 970m!

Now, if the 480X is really close to a 980Ti at lower draw and that magical 299-329$ (probably not), then AMD is going to kick tail this go around.
 
So many levels of manure here. Where did the results come from? From the hedging about the clock speeds, doesn't sound like the site was reporting results from a card in hand.

Testing a 2016 card with 3DMark11? Relevance? Not my favorite game....

Their definition of "an OC'ed 980Ti" is at 1.8 GHz on LN2? Oh, sure--everybody runs that...

Even if this wasn't manufactured clickbait, it's pretty thin--pre-release card on pre-release drivers, no real games tested, etc., etc., etc....
 
Mugato said:
I posted this elsewhere, but I think people had their hopes too high for the 1080 =( They followed the same structure as they always have, 10-15% faster than a previous gen Ti, better efficiency and lower out of the gate cost. Probably a few added features. What I noticed was, they can produce twice as many GPU's this go around (300mm vs 600mm) which makes sense from Nvidia's end. Just wish they had pushed it a bit further and went for 25-30% increase. But let's wait and see what the mem comp and other items they release involve. Probably newer boost management as well. I'm guessing mobile is going to rebrand to 10xx series? That 980 mobile is cool, and I love my 970m!

Now, if the 480X is really close to a 980Ti at lower draw and that magical 299-329$ (probably not), then AMD is going to kick tail this go around.
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That would be nothing short of a miracle... Similar performance at 2/3 the die size after years of amd pushing 540mm chips to compete with 400mm
 
Ieldra said:
Not sure I follow.

This replaces the 980.

A stock 980 is at 1200mhz boost

50% higher clocks
25% higher shader count
50% more bandwidth
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IMO, no one cares which card this will "replace" 1 year from now, people want the latest and greatest, and that will be the 1080, so it has to compete with the likes of the 980ti and TitanX
 
Not really surprised at all by the low performance.

You guys have to understand, it's not in their best interest to give you guys 2x the performance of say the 980 or 980ti, hell, even giving you guys the sudden performance of 2 x 970's would hurt them. They aren't going to allow that.

The new business model for anyone selling goods in this day and age has become, charge a lot, give a little ... and repeat ... charge a lot ... give a little. That's what's going to happen with the 1070 and 1080. I think anyone is delusional if they were expecting huge gains.

For anyone with a 980 ti ( like myself ) the only upgrade path that would make sense would be to a HBM2 8 / 16GB 1080ti with 3rd party fan solution / factory OC. At least that's the way I see it. If a 980 ti owner buys a 1070 ..... then they mostly likely aren't the smartest of people.
 
I really don't understand the disappointment, I don't.

If this is how you react to Pascal I can't wait to see the reaction to Polaris
 
SixFootDuo said:
Not really surprised at all by the low performance.

You guys have to understand, it's not in their best interest to give you guys 2x the performance of say the 980 or 980ti, hell, even giving you guys the sudden performance of 2 x 970's would hurt them. They aren't going to allow that.

The new business model for anyone selling goods in this day and age has become, charge a lot, give a little ... and repeat ... charge a lot ... give a little. That's what's going to happen with the 1070 and 1080. I think anyone is delusional if they were expecting huge gains.

For anyone with a 980 ti ( like myself ) the only upgrade path that would make sense would be to a HBM2 8 / 16GB 1080ti with 3rd party fan solution / factory OC. At least that's the way I see it. If a 980 ti owner buys a 1070 ..... then they mostly likely aren't the smartest of people.
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If a 980ti owner sells his card for 550 and buys a 1070 for 400?
 
Is it just me or does that shroud in the picture looks like a really beat up version of the 980/Titan shroud?
 
Honestly not dissapointed if they can deliver on price, which I doubt Nvidia will do knowing past price history.
 
Rvenger said:
Is it just me or does that shroud in the picture looks like a really beat up version of the 980/Titan shroud?
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I think that's the new shroud design. I personally preferred the older one.
 
Ieldra said:
If a 980ti owner sells his card for 550 and buys a 1070 for 400?
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If any owner can get $550 for a 980 ti ... they should run not walk to that buyer. That's full retail nearly.

Hell, I would do that then turn right around and get a 3rd party Triple Fan 980 ti lol. I have a stock 980 ti that came directly from Nvidia.

Also, I don't want less performance for a little money in my pocket. Assuming the 980 ti is faster than the 1070. I already have a little money in my pocket. I want more performance.
 
SixFootDuo said:
If any owner can get $550 for a 980 ti ... they should run not walk to that buyer. That's full retail nearly.

Hell, I would do that then turn right around and get a 3rd party Triple Fan 980 ti lol. I have a stock 980 ti that came directly from Nvidia.

Also, I don't want less performance for a little money in my pocket. Assuming the 980 ti is faster than the 1070. I already have a little money in my pocket. I want more performance.
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I got a 560 euro offer this morning
 
It will have to do to replace my 780 which won't run wow on 1440 without crashing due to temps, strangely enough it runs fallout4 fine at 1440
 
{NG}Fidel said:
Honestly not dissapointed if they can deliver on price, which I doubt Nvidia will do knowing past price history.
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Sadly accurate. Will still hold out to see what they say tomorrow, but may be looking for a marked down/used 980 TI very soon ...

It'd be nice if the 1070 showed some strength in the RAM size/general speed as an upgrade for my secondary/kids computer, but those aren't supposed to be coming out until months from now, correct?
 
I have friends in Oslo, he tells me video cards over there are VERY expensive. I assumed you were in the US. $550 euro for a 2nd hand 980 ti might be a very common price, a good price actually.

I think in Oslo, a 980 ti might cost $700+ new
 
windianrecords said:
Sadly accurate. Will still hold out to see what they say tomorrow, but may be looking for a marked down/used 980 TI very soon ...

It'd be nice if the 1070 showed some strength in the RAM size/general speed as an upgrade for my secondary/kids computer, but those aren't supposed to be coming out until months from now, correct?
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Rumor outs 1080 and 1070 releasing together then 1060ti following a month later or so
 
I sold a 980ti EVGA SC+ card for 565 USD yesterday.It is amazing what people will pay for Nvidia cards.No matter I will be buying the next AMD and Nvidia card that comes out.
 
Ieldra said:
I really don't understand the disappointment, I don't.

If this is how you react to Pascal I can't wait to see the reaction to Polaris
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I don't understand it either, do people actually buy every new generation of card? I just wait until I can't play the games I want at the detail level I want. Let's see, "recently" I've had 8800 GTS -> GTX 460->GTX 460 SLI->Radeon 7950 Crossfire (only sold due to Bitcoin mining making the cards worth MORE on the used market than what I bought them for)->Radeon 280x Crossfire (sold again).

I'm going to be buying either one of these new generation cards or a used 970/980/290x/390x either way, but I'm hopeing for a half decent GTX 1080 or 1070 to buy, and if there isn't a big difference I'll buy the 1070 with the idea of possibly picking up another down the road.
 
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