Intel Xeon E5603 Westmere-EP 1.6GHz Socket 1366 Processors

You need to forget about how much you paid for them. It could have been the best thing since sliced bread at that time but that has no bearing on what it is currently worth. Looking at ebay prices you may be able to get $50 for the pair. $50 is better than $0 and a pair of chips you don't want. Now if you have some usage for them and their value to you is higher than $50 you should just keep it and put them to use.
 
Jinto said:
Now if you have some usage for them and their value to you is higher than $50 you should just keep it and put them to use.
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I couldn't agree more. I'm reminded of something a local used computer salesman said to me. He asked me how much I wanted for an old computer, and I said $80... and instead of coming back with a price, he just said, "Ehh... I don't want to insult you. Just take it home and use it until it dies, I can tell you put a lot of work into it."

I didn't really understand what he meant at the time, but seeing this thread has made it pretty clear. When someone values something more highly than what they can get for it, sometimes they can feel insulted by a significantly lower price.

People buying used generally just want a deal, and a lot of people just want to unload stuff as fast as possible because they don't value it anymore. But when you appreciate something in a way other people don't, sometimes you're better off just holding onto it and finding a use for it yourself. That often results in getting more value out of it than if you'd sold it.

That said, I do know how upsetting it can be to pay over $1000 for something new, then look again in 3 or 4 years and realize it's barely worth $200. Thing you have to remember is, computer hardware usually only goes down in value. Sometimes if you have something that's rare and in-demand, or something that's having supply problems, you can get lucky and make a profit. But most of the time, it's a losing business. Computers don't hold their value.
 
scharfshutze009 said:
Yes, but that offer is and I'm not going to see new 2011 Xeon anytime soon because Gigabyte said they have been discontined. I don't think these have depreciated as much as you want me to think just because they are slower discontinued chips. These are designed to be used in pairs, so two of these make 3.2 Ghz working for you and then if you mulitiply 1.6 Ghz times the number of cores that's 12.8 GHz working for you plus the 4.8 Giga transfers and 4M cache, so these are fine for anyone needing a server or who has the old hardware laying around as you stated and thank you.
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I don't think you understand this hardware. The E5603 chips are just low end Xeon server chips, power wise they are much slower than a I3-2120 (PassMark - CPU Performance Comparison).

ALL socket 1366 processors have been EOL (end of life) as have the 2011 V1 processors. 2011 V2,V3 and V4 are still in production. 2011 V2 boards usually are backwards compatible with V1's, but boards are getting harder to find. V3/V4 use the newer Socket 2011 revision that is not compatible with the V1/V2.

The E5-2670 V1 is 8 cores at 2.6ghz, meant to be used in pairs also (that is the E5-26xx the E5-16xx are singe only. That is 41.6Ghz for a pair not including hyperthreading, 51Ghz memory transfers and 20MB cache.

Server hardware prices drop like a rock as newer stuff gets decommissioned. You have to realize that Google/Facebook/Microsoft/etc cycle hardware out after a certain amount of time and when it is decommissioned it ends up going to recyclers that part it out. The current best deal is the E5-2670's as they were used in compute nodes all over so there is a glut of them on the market.

If you go look for a consumer chips, the prices are higher. I7-2600 (3.4ghz, 4 core, 8 thread) chips still go for near $200 regularly. I have a E5-1620 (3.6ghz, 4 core, 8 thread) that I paid $75 shipped for. If you compare older chips like the i7-920 vs a Xeon X3430 the i7 goes for twice as much.

This is the last I am going to say on this. Good luck with your sale.
 
TType85 said:
I don't think you understand this hardware. The E5603 chips are just low end Xeon server chips, power wise they are much slower than a I3-2120 (PassMark - CPU Performance Comparison).

ALL socket 1366 processors have been EOL (end of life) as have the 2011 V1 processors. 2011 V2,V3 and V4 are still in production. 2011 V2 boards usually are backwards compatible with V1's, but boards are getting harder to find. V3/V4 use the newer Socket 2011 revision that is not compatible with the V1/V2.

The E5-2670 V1 is 8 cores at 2.6ghz, meant to be used in pairs also (that is the E5-26xx the E5-16xx are singe only. That is 41.6Ghz for a pair not including hyperthreading, 51Ghz memory transfers and 20MB cache.

Server hardware prices drop like a rock as newer stuff gets decommissioned. You have to realize that Google/Facebook/Microsoft/etc cycle hardware out after a certain amount of time and when it is decommissioned it ends up going to recyclers that part it out. The current best deal is the E5-2670's as they were used in compute nodes all over so there is a glut of them on the market.

If you go look for a consumer chips, the prices are higher. I7-2600 (3.4ghz, 4 core, 8 thread) chips still go for near $200 regularly. I have a E5-1620 (3.6ghz, 4 core, 8 thread) that I paid $75 shipped for. If you compare older chips like the i7-920 vs a Xeon X3430 the i7 goes for twice as much.

This is the last I am going to say on this. Good luck with your sale.
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I do understand that these are low end Xeons, but I'm not asking much for them. Therefore they should be in someones price range if they need an affordable Xeon processor and as for the i3-2120 can it be used in pairs or more, so it can't really compete because it's only a dual-core instead of quad-core and can a i3-2120 or any i3 for that matter support upto 288 GB of RAM with each processor or however that works of course not and the i3 advantage is only clockspeed or maybe some newer features. If someone overlooks my processor because of performance or clockspeed then they obviously didn't need my processor or don't already have 1366 hardware to take advantage of these and the benefits associated with using a Westmere-EP even if these are low end and EOL. If End of life is the problem I guess I can understand that, but being to my price is to high and that I should sell them for next to nothing is what I don't agree with.

I don't these are worth a fortune either, but I'm hoping to get a little more than almost nothing and I'm disappointed that they didn't sell sooner when there was more of a need for them before they were surpassed as many times as they have been now. After all I put alot of effort into giving my customers what I think they should have with their purchase including the RMA made on these before the warranty ran out, so that the buyer would have fully working memory controllers, so when people make it seem as though I should sell something for next to nothing I'm irritated because they expect me to take huge losses I can't really afford to take. As I said before I'm selling these for fair market value and as my brother said who studied accounting stated "if you depreciate something it will be worth almost nothing" and that's what I'm expected to do now, but never had to before and it's frustrating because nothing seems to be holding it's value anymore especially for something that's not that old except in the age of computers.

I agree with you about the E5-2370v1, but can't compete with the offer your seeing.

As for what else your saying I think I've already said it and also don't think I'm asking to much to have to lower my price to the point that I'm practically giving these or actually are giving them away.
 
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That is actually a good idea. Why don't just give it away to charity, and claim it as a tax deduction. If the IRS audits you on the processor deduction, you already have the justification of "Why" its worth what you want. You already held on to the processor for this long, so its obvious you don't need the money.
 
scharfshutze009 said:
As I said before I'm selling these for fair market value and as my brother said who studied accounting stated "if you depreciate something it will be worth almost nothing" and that's what I'm expected to do now, but never had to before and it's frustrating because nothing seems to be holding it's value anymore especially for something that's not that old except in the age of computers.
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That's definitely a fair point. Computer hardware really doesn't hold its value over time, it's largely viewed as disposable or temporary. However, if your hardware ever gets to a point where it could be viewed as "vintage," then it goes back up in value.

I recently wanted a Pentium II machine to run an old program that was giving me problems on newer hardware... I found that the cheapest ones were $200, and a lot of them were $300 or more. And they're all listed as vintage now.

If Intel ever goes out of business or they stop making x86 processors, your Xeons might skyrocket in value.
 
athenian200 said:
That's definitely a fair point. Computer hardware really doesn't hold its value over time, it's largely viewed as disposable or temporary. However, if your hardware ever gets to a point where it could be viewed as "vintage," then it goes back up in value.

I recently wanted a Pentium II machine to run an old program that was giving me problems on newer hardware... I found that the cheapest ones were $200, and a lot of them were $300 or more. And they're all listed as vintage now.

If Intel ever goes out of business or they stop making x86 processors, your Xeons might skyrocket in value.
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If that's the case my Pentium II overdrives for the Dual socket 8 system ought to be worth a fortune, if not my Pentium overdrive for socket 3 486 system along with my Pentium 233 system and Pentium Pro's, which aren't being used.
 
athenian200 said:
That's definitely a fair point. Computer hardware really doesn't hold its value over time, it's largely viewed as disposable or temporary. However, if your hardware ever gets to a point where it could be viewed as "vintage," then it goes back up in value.

I recently wanted a Pentium II machine to run an old program that was giving me problems on newer hardware... I found that the cheapest ones were $200, and a lot of them were $300 or more. And they're all listed as vintage now.

If Intel ever goes out of business or they stop making x86 processors, your Xeons might skyrocket in value.
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Yea to bad it costs a fortune though, which is why I get frustrated when things won't sell for something that's not to close to almost nothing.
 
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