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I am building a nas
Some requirements : Low power ( non energy hog), low heat, very quiet

Components inside
n3700 cpu
8gb ram
4 x 3 tb dred drives
2x 140mm fans

What power supplies would fit that build?
 
I personally like corsair psu. I have a cx600m in my windows pc and never hear the fans, the case or psu unless I'm right next to it. I've heard good things about seasonic and evga. If it was my nas I would get a corsair 430-500 watt. More than is currently needed but you have room to add more drives. Ps:I've got four 3tb reds in my nas running 24/7 for almost a year but newegg reviews give them a 50/50 survival rating. Backblaze (I know) shows their reliability falling over the quarter or so since their last update to the chart
 
Many Corsairs PSU use Seasonic "inside", so sooner Seasonic but its a bit more pricey
 
Hmm. I was not aware of that. Seems like maybe between those two options pick the one that fits the budget?
 
I've been using Antec PSU's for a long time myself, but the ones I have are either Delta or Seasonic built.

Have never tried a Corsair PSU personally, I had just been leery of things I had heard about a few in the past, on the low priced ones at any rate.

The newer EVGA PSU's seem to have gotten pretty rave reviews, if I were building a system today I'd probably try one out.
 
CX430 would be only model I would ever consider out of the CX line, and that's because of their absurdly low prices when on sale (recently $10 AR). No other CX PSU is worth it IMO.

XFX 550w PSUs sometime go on sale for ~$25, and they are all Seasonic made.

The high end EVGAs have been getting rave reviews, but the lower models, not so much. They're a lot more meh, especially in terms of price/performance.
 
Tsumi said:
CX430 would be only model I would ever consider out of the CX line, and that's because of their absurdly low prices when on sale (recently $10 AR). No other CX PSU is worth it IMO.

XFX 550w PSUs sometime go on sale for ~$25, and they are all Seasonic made.

The high end EVGAs have been getting rave reviews, but the lower models, not so much. They're a lot more meh, especially in terms of price/performance.
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I'll trust you on the lower end EVGA's, I've never personally used one myself.

I never buy a PSU more or less for a computer that usually runs under $80 bucks without a rebate to begin with I guess, in a long time.

You can usually find a good one about half off these days if you really look around.
 
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revival said:
I am building a nas
Some requirements : Low power ( non energy hog), low heat, very quiet

Components inside
n3700 cpu
8gb ram
4 x 3 tb dred drives
2x 140mm fans

What power supplies would fit that build?
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I wish that there were more low wattage power supplies that didn't suck. So, anything recommended here will be absolutely overkill.

If up-front budget isn't a concern, I recommend this:
SeaSonic X series SS-400FL Active PFC F3 400W ATX12V Fanless 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com

Reviews:
Seasonic X-400FL Platinum - Seasonic X-400FL Platinum 400W Power Supply Review
JonnyGURU - Seasonic X-400 V2 Fanless 400W

It's highly efficient (Platinum, rated and real world), low heat due to the efficiency, and fanless. Meets your criteria better than anything else out there. If budget is a concern, here's the budget wonders that are more than adequate, and typically $10-$20 after MIR on rotation (so wait for one to hit that magic number). These are all reliable PSUs that will power any budget gaming rig, so your system will be more than fine:

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EVGA 100-W1-0430-KR 430W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Continuous Power Supply Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready - Newegg.com

Reviews:
EVGA 430W Power Supply - EVGA 430W Power Supply Review
EVGA 430W Review

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CORSAIR CX series CX430M 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC CP-9020058-NA Power Supply - Newegg.com

Reviews:
Corsair CX430M Modular Power Supply Review - What $25 Can Buy - Legit Reviews

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Antec Basiq BP430 ATX12V Version 2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com

Reviews:
Limited reviews, but overall positive on Newegg, well respected PSU within the community, and a teardown here showing a low-end but quality Delta unit.
Antec Basiq 430W - jonnyGURU Forums
 
Tsumi said:
CX430 would be only model I would ever consider out of the CX line, and that's because of their absurdly low prices when on sale (recently $10 AR). No other CX PSU is worth it IMO.
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CX430 = avoid
CX430m = good buy

The 430m is a higher quality replacement. Avoid the prior model. It's not horrible, just generally the same price and not as good as the 430m.

I stand corrected. Current revisions are now essentially the same. Get whichever is cheaper (or spend a tad more for the semi-modular design of the 430m).

Thanks to those below who corrected me on this.
 
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I'm pretty sure the m is for modular. that's the only difference I saw...
 
Dangman said:
What's your proof for that?
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pendragon1 said:
I'm pretty sure the m is for modular. that's the only difference I saw...
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Fair questions.

Both are made by Channel Well. Prendragon already noted a key difference (standard vs. semi-modular). The other key difference is the efficiency. The CX430 is an older 80+ certified model. The CX430m is an upgraded 80+ Bronze certified model.

I didn't say that the CX430 was bad, just that the 430m was an upgraded model and typically at the same price. The quality difference (semi-modular aside) is similar to that of an EVGA G2 vs. a P2. If they were the exact same price, there would be no justification for getting a G2. Same applies here.
 
MongGrel said:
I'll trust you on the lower end EVGA's, I've never personally used one myself.

I never buy a PSU more or less for a computer that usually runs under $80 bucks without a rebate to begin with I guess, in a long time.

You can usually find a good one about half off these days if you really look around.
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From what I have seen, the recent lower end EVGA PSUs do well, but they don't stand out in any metric. This may be partially due to the fact that the higher ones offer such exceptional price/performance, the lower ones don't have much of a place.

Daniel_Chang said:
CX430 = avoid
CX430m = good buy

The 430m is a higher quality replacement. Avoid the prior model. It's not horrible, just generally the same price and not as good as the 430m.
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Let me know when you see a CX430M for $10 AR.

pendragon1 said:
I'm pretty sure the m is for modular. that's the only difference I saw...
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That's what I've always thought.

Daniel_Chang said:
Fair questions.

Both are made by Channel Well. Prendragon already noted a key difference (standard vs. semi-modular). The other key difference is the efficiency. The CX430 is an older 80+ certified model. The CX430m is an upgraded 80+ Bronze certified model.

I didn't say that the CX430 was bad, just that the 430m was an upgraded model and typically at the same price. The quality difference (semi-modular aside) is similar to that of an EVGA G2 vs. a P2. If they were the exact same price, there would be no justification for getting a G2. Same applies here.
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CX430 has been updated to 80+ Bronze. 99% sure they are identical other than modularity.
 
Tsumi said:
Let me know when you see a CX430M for $10 AR.


CX430 has been updated to 80+ Bronze. 99% sure they are identical other than modularity.
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Haven't seen it that cheap, just close.

And thanks for the correction. I was unaware of the upgrade to Bronze certification.
 
Daniel_Chang said:
Fair questions.

Both are made by Channel Well. Prendragon already noted a key difference (standard vs. semi-modular). The other key difference is the efficiency. The CX430 is an older 80+ certified model. The CX430m is an upgraded 80+ Bronze certified model.

I didn't say that the CX430 was bad, just that the 430m was an upgraded model and typically at the same price. The quality difference (semi-modular aside) is similar to that of an EVGA G2 vs. a P2. If they were the exact same price, there would be no justification for getting a G2. Same applies here.
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A difference in efficiency that basically means nothing. There's only a 2% to 5% difference separating 80+ and 80+ Bronze. So even if the CX430 wasn't Bronze certified, it still wouldn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Then again, 80+ ranking in and of itself is fairly worthless as well:
Why 80Plus is Irrelevant to You When Buying a PSU - Why 80 PLUS® is Irrelevant to You When Buying a PSU

IOW, the only way the CX430M is an "upgrade" or "Higher quality" replacement is if you're overly exaggerating what modular cables bring to the table. Besides that, they're both cheap ok-ish PSUs with the one of them costing $6 more for the ability to remove cables.
 
Dangman said:
A difference in efficiency that basically means nothing. There's only a 2% to 5% difference separating 80+ and 80+ Bronze. So even if the CX430 wasn't Bronze certified, it still wouldn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Then again, 80+ ranking in and of itself is fairly worthless as well:
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I'm not one to argue over the internet, so I'll only state this once. Do what you will with it. Although this has been settled and I was incorrect:

My statement was that product B was superior to product A. In this example, Product B was modular, offered superior efficiency, and came at the same price. And you're arguing against that? Why? Yes, again, we know that my assessment was wrong, but that's not what you're arguing. You're literally arguing that if one product offers a better feature (modular), higher efficiency, and is offered at the same price, it's not better. I don't understand that, but again, I'll leave it at that.
 
Daniel_Chang said:
I'm not one to argue over the internet, so I'll only state this once. Do what you will with it. Although this has been settled and I was incorrect:

My statement was that product B was superior to product A. In this example, Product B was modular, offered superior efficiency, and came at the same price. And you're arguing against that? Why? Yes, again, we know that my assessment was wrong, but that's not what you're arguing. You're literally arguing that if one product offers a better feature (modular), higher efficiency, and is offered at the same price, it's not better. I don't understand that, but again, I'll leave it at that.
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Not quite my argument. I'll explain:
1) Modular is a good feature but not an absolute game changer. These days, every good quality cases are easy to cable manage so getting a modular PSU isn't as big of a deal. Unless you're talking mITX.
2) As noted, the higher efficiency is literally 2% to 5% more. That's not a meaningful difference unless you're facing severe power shortages
3) Not the same price at the moment on Newegg. The CX430 costs $40 whereas the CX430M costs $46.

My argument was that you're making the CX430M sound like a much better quality PSU then it really is. You're making Product B sound like a major improvement over Product A when the improvements are extremely minor.
 
Sounds like there quiet any word on heat output?

Would an sfx power run quiet and cool enough





pendragon1 said:
I still don't think there is any difference and the argument is moot.
CORSAIR CX series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com says 80+ bronze. and every single spec is identicle.
these as ok psus and should be fine for what the op is looking for. if he wants higher quality then anything mentioned above will be good too.
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Heat output is a matter of efficiency. The more efficient the PSU, the less heat it puts out. Consequently, if it puts out less heat, it is quieter, but unless you're sticking these low power PSUs inside a cabinet with no air circulation, they shouldn't ever be loud.
 
revival said:
Sounds like there quiet any word on heat output?
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"As the power capacity of the CX430M is rather low, we did not expect great changes in temperature. Truly, the exhaust air temperature of the unit is less than a single Celsius degree higher than that of the ambient air while the power supply is mildly loaded. As the load increases, so does the temperature delta, reaching however only up to 5.6°C at maximum load."
from: Corsair CX430M Modular Power Supply Review - What $25 Can Buy - Page 7 of 8 - Legit Reviews

revival said:
Would an sfx power run quiet and cool enough
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yes, they just cost more.
 
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